My post was about Kavanaugh - the respondent called him the "poster boy of white privilege."
I grew up around musicians - many of them wonderful African-American jazz and funk players. I always felt they were superior to me, but I never felt hatred towards them because they grew up in a far better musical environment than I did.
Doesnt matter who it was about but if it was Kavanaugh I agree. I would still like to see both sides of the argument.
You felt they were superior to you? What does that have to do with anything and why did you feel they were superior to you? Not sure why you would feel hatred towards someone you admittedly felt were superior to you. The fact that you believed them to be superior seems to be an acceptance of the lower position you assigned yourself. If you accepted that you wouldnt feel hatred.
Hmmm... my post is about race and privilege. I felt they were superior musicians to me because they had grown up in a more "privileged" musical environment - meaning they had more people ready to support and nurture them musically, who "happened to be" black. But I never saw that privilege as coming from their color - it came from their culture.
So - the next logical step is to see that privilege in general is about culture - not color. And that is why "white privilege" is essentially a straw man argument. Race does not imbue privilege, but culture can.
Feel free to denigrate my "white culture music" of Catholic hymns instead of rockin' gospel songs, or Peter Paul & Mary instead of Miles Davis, But understand that I was brought up on that music because it was my culture, not because I was white, so I have no reason to conflate race with "musical privilege."
White privilege is about color. Thats why its called white privilege. Its handed out to whites no matter there culture. There is a reason the SCOTUS admits there is systemic racism. There is a reason retired police chiefs admit cops police Blacks differently out of fear. There is a reason whites created a system to keep Blacks from getting ahead. All these reasons add up to white privilege. Now you can claim this is not so but doing that only tells me you are in denial due to an insecurity complex. It must be extremely difficult for a white male to go through life not sure if his success is real or not. Or maybe white males simply dont care? Maybe they have zero shame they need a system rigged for their benefit?
They earn higher incomes.
God forbid are government branches are controlled by white people in a white country. HOW CAN IT BE!??? RACIST!!!!
Thats like saying Black guys make all the money in the NBA.
Thats only because Asians have used you white boys to their advantage. Once they were promoted to model minority status you fools started hiring them to prove a point to Blacks. However since I know alot of Asians they tell me they still have to put up with your white racist ways.
Well since you admit whites control everything why are you saying Asians are doing better than whites?
Asians are as racist as anyone else. Especially with other Asians, they can sound like characitures of rednecks portrayed on tv, just with a different accent. My worst encounter of racism, mocking with actual malicious intent, can from black people, on 2 separate occasions. I had another occasion that I donāt even classify as racism from a white lady, that was an honest mistake. I was at hibachi/sushi restaurant, in a black sweater and jeans, very similar to the staffs uniform, I was at the host stand waiting and she asked me the wait time. I laughed, because it was a funny and honest mistake that I could make, and said I didnāt work here. She was horrified and extremely apologetic. Thatās not racism in my book.
And if that is your qualifications of privelage, being in governmental power, blacks are waaaaay ahead of Asians. We had a black president, thatās control of an entire branch of government, with dozens of major federal departments all answering to him. This is the First Nation to democratically elect a minority as president/prime minister. And he won both races comfortably. Think about that for a second. Not to mention, thereās a whole black caucus, and maybe a handful of Asian elected to office.
I know Asians can be racist. I had several Asians as girlfriends that couldnt stand white people. Not sure what that has to do with the point though? You said all of that but you still havent proven that Asians or Blacks or any other people of color control the resources and opportunities here in the US? Sorry but all thats controlled by whites. Hence white privilege.
My point is that racism is just an easier form of tribalism to fall into. Tribalism is inherent in human nature, it is something that we have evolved with. All because we are talking monkeys that depend on living in tribes. Tribalism did serve us well (believe it or not) back when resources for us were scarce, and diseases we could not fight could wipe out half of your tribe in a matter of months. Weāve had to be constantly vigilant and concerned about foreign tribes coming to take whatās ours, and when we did not have enough, we needed another tribe to blame (whether or not that tribe held any responsibility for the lack of resources) to go and take from them. Now that scarcity of resources is facing extinction (read Pinkerās Enlightenment Now), and now that disease is increasingly easier to combat, tribalism is more of an outdated software program built into us.
To say that only a certain group, even a group thatās a regional majority, is the only group guilty of racism is flat out wrong. To say that white privilege isnāt racist, or better said, that it isnāt that old software of blaming another tribe rearing itās ugly head, is wrong. To say that Asians are only garnering success and outearning whites because weāre like obedient dogs to the whites and they gave us a treat, is honestly is flat out offensive as well as wrong. I see you on this thread talking about how youāre hard work is bringing you success despite the system going against you. When another race finds success, itās because they idiotically made a deal with the devil, but not because of hard work...Weāll thatās quite a fucked up statement.
I can concede that some whites have a bit of advantage due to the previous generations garnering an abundance of resources, and some of that is through the exploitation of blacks. I can concede conversely to that, some blacks are at a disadvantage because of lack of resources. Hereās the problem with white privilege idea (outside of attributing characteristics because of a race). First off, itās an incredibly simplistic statement and rational applied to an incredibly complex problem. You say that whites control a majority of the resources, well no duh, itās a majority white country. Thatās just how the law of averages is going to play out in a country that values freedom and making your own way. But, wealth only stays in families for 3 generations. So that āadvantageā does not last forever. Thereās a constant cycle of āold moneyā drying up, and new money blowing up, and that cycle is moving quicker than ever. Now Asians are out earning whites, and have been for the past 20 years, so is there Asian privilege? I wouldnāt say so, if anything thereās more clear and non abstract systemic disadvantage being Asian than any other race, since they are having to outperform all other races in things like college admissions. Is there a such thing as black privilege when theyāre getting into Ivy League schools with much lower test scores and GPAs versus their Asian counterparts, all in the name of promotion of diversity? Thatās actual systemic racism that can be quantified very accurately. Also, youāve cited that Asians hold very little power in government, but they are still outperforming whites in earning. So Asians are double fucked since they donāt have the accumulated resources, and are far less represented in government, even compared to blacks. Yet, they are still finding more success than their āwhite privilegedā counterparts. Looking at your original explanation of why that is, that Asians are being hand feed from the white table because of good behavior...thatād be more like Asians are being feed the ribeye steak, while whites are only getting the sirloin, even with their notable disadvantages versus whites who hold most of the resources, and having very little representation in the system. How do you explain this? You canāt say whites have a majority of the power and resources, and at the same time have a group that lacks the most represented power outperforming them by double digit percentiles, despite of a system being built by whites for whites in your estimation. Either white privelage is helping the Asian population get a leg up on the other races, including whites themselves, in the most important measurable category, earnings, or thereās other factors at play, and clearly they play a much bigger role than skin color.
