While President Biden talks democracy, Trump to meet with Putin ally

[Clipper]

That's a lie.
You are referring to the "perfect phone call".
Trump asked for an "investigation" into the Burisma-Biden connection , which was totally justified.
The weaponry funding was released on time.

The better question is, why wasn't Biden prosecuted for extorting the firing of the prosecutor (Shokin) investigating the Biden's "cash-cow" (Burisma) using $1,000,000,000 of approved funds.

You don't know what you're talking about. End of story.

 

[Crepitus]

And still stupid.

Whatever helps you get through the night.

 

[Couchpotato]

Whatever helps you get through the night.

You being stupid doesn't effect me. It makes for comical reading but other than that....

 

[Crepitus]

You being stupid doesn't effect me. It makes for comical reading but other than that....

Ah, your now imitating me. Well, I guess they do say that's the sincerest form of flattery so thanks, I guess.

 

[Couchpotato]

Ah, your now imitating me. Well, I guess they do say that's the sincerest form of flattery so thanks, I guess.

I couldn’t imitate your stupidity no matter how hard I tried.


BTW. Still think the Logan Act was violated by a private citizen meeting with a foreign leader?

 

[jbander]

Who was President in 2014? How many new incursions happened while "his boy" was the President? The US Is the leader of the free world. They run and fund NATO and the UN. Do you see that what your saying just doesn't make logical sense given what happened during and post Trump's Presidency? You don't have to be a strategic genius to understand that having the worlds lone superpower sit on the sidelines while you invade another country is to your advantage, right? What's better for Russia vis-a-vie their invasion of Ukraine. A US that's on their side or one that's against them?

No the question is who was the president of Ukraine in 2014, Victor Yanukovych was until june of 2014 and Petro Poroshenko from then on. Yanukovych was a Russian supporter and Cronie who now live in Russia. And Russia took over Crymea when Yanukovych was the leader of Ukrainre , and Petro Poroshenko took over and was a s corrupt and criminal in the same manner that Shitpants is.
You have no point.
. So ace tell me what should have been done. What a idiot.

 

[jbander]

Yes because we didn’t have an adversarial relationship with Russia prior to that….

where do you get that idea, what a hoot.

 

[jbander]

That's a lie.
You are referring to the "perfect phone call".
Trump asked for an "investigation" into the Burisma-Biden connection , which was totally justified.
The weaponry funding was released on time.

The better question is, why wasn't Biden prosecuted for extorting the firing of the prosecutor (Shokin) investigating the Biden's "cash-cow" (Burisma) using $1,000,000,000 of approved funds.

What a idiot , he wasn't prosecuted for the normal reason , he did nothing , You live in a made up make believe world. No truth no facts no nothing. But dingaling crapola.

 

[Couchpotato]

Hutch Starskey

Do you think our adversarial relationship with Russia started when they took over parts of Ukraine?

LMAO..

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Hutch Starskey

Do you think our adversarial relationship with Russia started when they took over parts of Ukraine?

LMAO..

Of course not, dope.
Did you imagine you had a point by bringing that up?

 

[surada]

Hungary’s Viktor Orbán is putting his chips on the table with a trip to visit Donald Trump, as the US and Europe prepare for key elections later this year.

The longtime Hungarian prime minister, who has faced repeated criticism from the US government over democratic backsliding and his friendly relationship with the Kremlin, will be arriving in the US this week without an invitation from the White House.

In an almost unheard-of move for a Nato country’s leader, he is not expected to meet anyone from the Biden administration.….

…..The visit, which comes at a low point in Hungary’s post cold war relationship with Washington, is being watched closely in foreign policy circles, in part due to fears that Orbán could use his access to the Republican presidential candidate to promote Kremlin talking points on Ukraine.

“The liberal international order is under very serious attack,” said Péter Buda, a former Hungarian counter-intelligence official. “As a kind of foreign policy gambler, Orbán has staked everything on the collapse of this order and is betting that if he commits himself in advance to the rising powers of the east, he will be able to secure a more favourable position.

“Both Orbán and Putin’s communications focus on ‘peace’ negotiations, which would undoubtedly benefit the Russians,” Buda said, adding that “one cannot be wrong to assume that Orbán is ultimately lobbying the US on foreign policy in favour of Russia”.

Eyebrows raised as Viktor Orbán to visit Donald Trump in Florida

Hungary’s PM arrives in US this week without a White House invitation as he pursues what critics call his ‘fantasy’ foreign policy

www.theguardian.com

See also

Trump's RNC takeover and Orban meeting are a frightening glimpse into the GOP's future

On the same day Trump was scheduled to meet with Hungary's authoritarian ruler, his handpicked candidates took the reins of the RNC.

www.msnbc.com

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If Trump wins, this meeting with Orbán Is a sign of things to come. NATO allies will be pushed aside for his pro-Putin policies.

Trump is signaling the end of the Western alliance and one more attuned to the east. Democracy for dictatorship will be Trump’s focus.

Trump loves his dictators and strongmen. He makes no secret of who he wants to emulate.

Choose wisely America!

Hungary's main exports are machinery and transport equipment, consumer goods, agricultural products, chemicals, apparel, textiles, iron and steel, and wine. Trade with EU countries now comprises over 79 percent. Germany is Hungary's the most important trading partner.

 

[jbander]

Hungary’s Viktor Orbán is putting his chips on the table with a trip to visit Donald Trump, as the US and Europe prepare for key elections later this year.

The longtime Hungarian prime minister, who has faced repeated criticism from the US government over democratic backsliding and his friendly relationship with the Kremlin, will be arriving in the US this week without an invitation from the White House.

In an almost unheard-of move for a Nato country’s leader, he is not expected to meet anyone from the Biden administration.….

…..The visit, which comes at a low point in Hungary’s post cold war relationship with Washington, is being watched closely in foreign policy circles, in part due to fears that Orbán could use his access to the Republican presidential candidate to promote Kremlin talking points on Ukraine.

“The liberal international order is under very serious attack,” said Péter Buda, a former Hungarian counter-intelligence official. “As a kind of foreign policy gambler, Orbán has staked everything on the collapse of this order and is betting that if he commits himself in advance to the rising powers of the east, he will be able to secure a more favourable position.

“Both Orbán and Putin’s communications focus on ‘peace’ negotiations, which would undoubtedly benefit the Russians,” Buda said, adding that “one cannot be wrong to assume that Orbán is ultimately lobbying the US on foreign policy in favour of Russia”.

Eyebrows raised as Viktor Orbán to visit Donald Trump in Florida

Hungary’s PM arrives in US this week without a White House invitation as he pursues what critics call his ‘fantasy’ foreign policy

www.theguardian.com

See also

Trump's RNC takeover and Orban meeting are a frightening glimpse into the GOP's future

On the same day Trump was scheduled to meet with Hungary's authoritarian ruler, his handpicked candidates took the reins of the RNC.

www.msnbc.com

******************
If Trump wins, this meeting with Orbán Is a sign of things to come. NATO allies will be pushed aside for his pro-Putin policies.

Trump is signaling the end of the Western alliance and one more attuned to the east. Democracy for dictatorship will be Trump’s focus.

Trump loves his dictators and strongmen. He makes no secret of who he wants to emulate.

Choose wisely America!

Trump already is licking Putins ass ,why maybe piss tapes or maybe just money Into Trumps hands but whatever it is MAGA's is aligning itself with our enemy's across the board. And shitpants visiting with Putin's Allie Viktor Orbin sounds like the action of a traitor , which of course shitpants is. As is anyone who supports him. They are democracy's biggest threat and enemy , there hasn't been a threat to our democracy like this, not even in any of the 200 wars we have been in other then the war of 1812 when Britain burned the capital.

 

[jbander]

 

[Lakhota]

Trump is obviously retarded - but they need to try him again!

 

[Couchpotato]

Trump already is licking Putins ass ,why maybe piss tapes or maybe just money Into Trumps hands but whatever it is MAGA's is aligning itself with our enemy's across the board. And shitpants visiting with Putin's Allie Viktor Orbin sounds like the action of a traitor , which of course shitpants is. As is anyone who supports him. They are democracy's biggest threat and enemy , there hasn't been a threat to our democracy like this, not even in any of the 200 wars we have been in other then the war of 1812 when Britain burned the capital.

Hungry is a member of. NATO dumb ass

 

[jbander]

Hungry is a member of. NATO dumb ass

What do you think that means. They are allies of Russia , they hold hands and lick the ass of Putin like Trump does but both Shitpants and Orbán are their countries biggest threat to their democracy as is everyone in their country that supports shitpants or Orbán are also.. Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the 30 members of the military alliance have committed at least $80bn worth of military aid to Ukraine , Yugoslavia not a dime. . Nato will keep no Allie of Russia in their organization. They have to get rid of Orban.

 

[jbander]

Couchpotato and MAGA's are this countries biggest threat and enemy of this great country.

 

[AntonToo]

Trump sent Ukraine "lethal aid" when Obama sent them blankets and MREs so as to bow down before Putin.

Obama administration didn't give weapons to Ukraine out of concern "this would provoke the Russians," Hill says

On Thursday, two impeachment inquiry witnesses — Fiona Hill and David Holmes — will testify publicly. Follow here for our live coverage.

www.cnn.com

Trump also tried to extort Ukrainian president for those handful of anti-tank weapons. He was impeached for it.

Trump also called Putin "smart" for his invasion of Ukraine, while Biden did all the work to lead international response.

Trump doesn't give two shits about Ukraine or the very princples at stake in this conflict. To even for a second imagine that he will be as solid, commited and steadfast on Ukraine as Biden is to have your damn head in the ground. Trump will do whatever is good for Trump.

 

[AntonToo]

Orban on Trump: "He will not give a penny in the Ukraine-Russia war. That is why the war will end"

Trump previously promissed to end the war "in 24 hours."

Trump on Orban "There's nobody that's better, smarter, or a better leader than Viktor Orban. He's fantastic"

Trump will not give a penny to Ukraine - Hungary PM Orban

"He will not give a penny" and the Russia-Ukraine war will end, claims Viktor Orban after meeting Donald Trump.

www.bbc.com

QUESTIONS?

 

[kyzr]

Trump also tried to extort Ukrainian president for those handful of anti-tank weapons. He was impeached for it.

Trump also called Putin "smart" for his invasion of Ukraine, while Biden did all the work to lead international response.

Trump doesn't give two shits about Ukraine or the very principles at stake in this conflict. To even for a second imagine that he will be as solid, committed and steadfast on Ukraine as Biden is to have your damn head in the ground. Trump will do whatever is good for Trump.

1. That's a LIE. Trump did not extort Ukraine. Read the "perfect" phone call transcript again.

2. Biden didn't lead anything, he's a senile teleprompter reader.

3. Trump wants the EU deadbeats to start contributing instead of the US always paying the freight. That strengthens NATO.