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While Democrats Try To ‘Kill Coal’ In US, Asia Heads In The Opposite Direction

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Nation and State ^ | 09/21/2021 | Tyler Durden

Congressional Democrats and the Biden administration are working towards an ambitious goal of eliminating coal-fired electricity and 'decarbonize' the US electric grid by 2035.

To meet such an aggressive deadline, House Democrats unveiled a $150 billion 'clean electricity' program to incentivize utility companies to phase out fossil fuels for clean energy. The Clean Electricity Performance Program, or CEPP, would reward utility that boost their percentage of electricity supplied to the grid from green sources - such as solar, wind and hydro, between 2023 and 2030.


Exhaust rises from the East Bend Generating Station, a coal-fired power plant owned and operated by Duke Energy, along the Ohio River in Union, Kentucky, U.S., September 14, 2017. (REUTERS/Brian Snyder)



S&P Global explains more about the program:

To qualify for such a grant, electricity suppliers would have to boost the amount of clean electricity they supply to customers by 4% compared to the previous year. The supplier would receive $150 for each MWh of clean electricity provided that exceeds the amount supplied the previous year by 1.5%. Electricity supplies must use the grants exclusively to benefit customers, including for direct bill assistance, investments in qualified clean electricity and energy efficiency, and worker retention.
An electricity supplier that does not meet the criteria by increasing its clean electricity percentage by at least 4% over the prior year would owe a payment to the Energy Department based on its shortfall. For example, if an electricity supplier only increases its clean energy by 2%, the supplier would owe $40 for each MWh that represents the 2% shortfall.
In short, Democrats are asking power companies to take a huge gamble on renewable energy - which would effectively 'kill' coal-fired electricity in the US.

"The CEPP would eliminate coal-fired electricity by 2030, if not sooner," according to a letter to House reps by Michelle Bloodworth, CEO of America's Power - which represents top miners, who added that the program would also "eliminate or at least drastically curtail the use of natural gas to generate electricity."

Biden's plans to decarbonize the power sector by 2035 is an enormous task, however according to America's Power, utilities are already making the switch - rushing headfirst into solar and wind projects which have inherent stability risks.

For example, there have been three significant grid issues this year involving renewables, the first in Texas, then California, and the UK. In Texas, a cold snap in early 2021 froze wind turbines and nearly crashed the entire power grid in the state. In California, wildfires strained the clean energy grid where state officials requested the federal government to relax air quality rules to burn natural gas turbines. And in the UK, wind power generation has dropped, straining the grid.

Not all Democrats agree


In a break from Democrats, Sen. Joe Manchin from the mining state of West Virginia mentioned last month that the coal industry "will be saved, has to be saved, because the country can't survive without it." He believes that there will eventually be "a transition" to other energy sources like atomic fusion, hydrogen gas, and nuclear power.

While coal generation has dropped by half over the past two decades, its use has sharply risen since the pandemic began - increasing from 15% to 23%.



And while US progressives may be able to 'kill' coal in the West (at potentially great cost to grid stability), Asia is headed in the opposite direction.

Last month, TIME reported that China is planning to build 43 new coal-fired power plants and 18 new blast furnaces, despite the world's largest polluter pledging to bring its emissions to a peak before 2030, and achieve carbon neutrality by 2060.


China is leading the world in new coal power plants, building more than three times as much new coal power capacity as all other countries in the world combined in 2020. It isn’t alone in its reliance on coal, however. China and four other countries, India, Indonesia, Japan and Vietnam, account for more than 80% of the coal power stations planned across the world, according to a June report by the think-tank Carbon Tracker. -TIME
As FreightWaves' Greg Miller noted in July, bulk ships full of coal are headed to Asia.

"Turns out the news of the demise of coal has been greatly exaggerated," said Stifel analyst Ben Nolan in a new client note. "Despite an unseemly carbon footprint, coal demand is actually accelerating this year" across much of Asia.

In other words, China is leading a coal recovery by restarting dozens of shuttered coal mines to increase power demand, while other Asian nations are engaged in their own coal projects.



So as Democrats stage a dramatic 'kill the coal' campaign in the United States - an effort which will only be passed along to consumers (hurting low-income families the most), many other parts of the world, including China, Australia, South Africa, and South America, continue to use traditional energy sources as demand shows no signs of abating.

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One truly wonders how true satire really is...

Joe,

We’re going to burn more coal so you need to speed up the purchase of Chinese-made solar panels.

Xi
 

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I don't think this will really hit home in the west until covid lockdowns morph into climate lockdowns.

These people are not messing around. They want the west deindustrialized.
 

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Nation and State ^ | 09/21/2021 | Tyler Durden

Congressional Democrats and the Biden administration are working towards an ambitious goal of eliminating coal-fired electricity and 'decarbonize' the US electric grid by 2035.

To meet such an aggressive deadline, House Democrats unveiled a $150 billion 'clean electricity' program to incentivize utility companies to phase out fossil fuels for clean energy. The Clean Electricity Performance Program, or CEPP, would reward utility that boost their percentage of electricity supplied to the grid from green sources - such as solar, wind and hydro, between 2023 and 2030.


Exhaust rises from the East Bend Generating Station, a coal-fired power plant owned and operated by Duke Energy, along the Ohio River in Union, Kentucky, U.S., September 14, 2017. (REUTERS/Brian Snyder)


S&P Global explains more about the program:


In short, Democrats are asking power companies to take a huge gamble on renewable energy - which would effectively 'kill' coal-fired electricity in the US.

"The CEPP would eliminate coal-fired electricity by 2030, if not sooner," according to a letter to House reps by Michelle Bloodworth, CEO of America's Power - which represents top miners, who added that the program would also "eliminate or at least drastically curtail the use of natural gas to generate electricity."

Biden's plans to decarbonize the power sector by 2035 is an enormous task, however according to America's Power, utilities are already making the switch - rushing headfirst into solar and wind projects which have inherent stability risks.

For example, there have been three significant grid issues this year involving renewables, the first in Texas, then California, and the UK. In Texas, a cold snap in early 2021 froze wind turbines and nearly crashed the entire power grid in the state. In California, wildfires strained the clean energy grid where state officials requested the federal government to relax air quality rules to burn natural gas turbines. And in the UK, wind power generation has dropped, straining the grid.

Not all Democrats agree


In a break from Democrats, Sen. Joe Manchin from the mining state of West Virginia mentioned last month that the coal industry "will be saved, has to be saved, because the country can't survive without it." He believes that there will eventually be "a transition" to other energy sources like atomic fusion, hydrogen gas, and nuclear power.

While coal generation has dropped by half over the past two decades, its use has sharply risen since the pandemic began - increasing from 15% to 23%.



And while US progressives may be able to 'kill' coal in the West (at potentially great cost to grid stability), Asia is headed in the opposite direction.

Last month, TIME reported that China is planning to build 43 new coal-fired power plants and 18 new blast furnaces, despite the world's largest polluter pledging to bring its emissions to a peak before 2030, and achieve carbon neutrality by 2060.



As FreightWaves' Greg Miller noted in July, bulk ships full of coal are headed to Asia.

"Turns out the news of the demise of coal has been greatly exaggerated," said Stifel analyst Ben Nolan in a new client note. "Despite an unseemly carbon footprint, coal demand is actually accelerating this year" across much of Asia.

In other words, China is leading a coal recovery by restarting dozens of shuttered coal mines to increase power demand, while other Asian nations are engaged in their own coal projects.



So as Democrats stage a dramatic 'kill the coal' campaign in the United States - an effort which will only be passed along to consumers (hurting low-income families the most), many other parts of the world, including China, Australia, South Africa, and South America, continue to use traditional energy sources as demand shows no signs of abating.

--------------------

One truly wonders how true satire really is...

Joe,

We’re going to burn more coal so you need to speed up the purchase of Chinese-made solar panels.

Xi
Why are you still parroting this horseshit? Honestly, this is a dead subject. Democrats aren't killing coal. Republicans aren't killing coal. Governors aren't killing coal. Regulations aren't killing coal.
The Texas power issue had almost nothing to do with renewables.

The COAL COMPANIES are killing coal. Why? Because it's cheaper to produce natural gas.

If the Chinese want to build coal plants, that's their perogative. It will catch up to them eventually.
 

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Why are you still parroting this horseshit? Honestly, this is a dead subject. Democrats aren't killing coal. Republicans aren't killing coal. Governors aren't killing coal. Regulations aren't killing coal.
The Texas power issue had almost nothing to do with renewables.

The COAL COMPANIES are killing coal. Why? Because it's cheaper to produce natural gas.

If the Chinese want to build coal plants, that's their perogative. It will catch up to them eventually.
Technically, Democrats did kill coal with rules and regulations that made it too expensive. Trump cutting regulations is not enough to open, what the Democrats bankrupted and closed.

Trump's cutting of regulations do however, save the few remaining coal plants.
 

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Why are you still parroting this horseshit? Honestly, this is a dead subject. Democrats aren't killing coal. Republicans aren't killing coal. Governors aren't killing coal. Regulations aren't killing coal.
The Texas power issue had almost nothing to do with renewables.

The COAL COMPANIES are killing coal. Why? Because it's cheaper to produce natural gas.

If the Chinese want to build coal plants, that's their perogative. It will catch up to them eventually.
Not only that, now it is cheaper to replace running power plants with renewables than to continue to run those power plants. Wind and solar have two huge advantages. You don't need pipelines or railroads to bring in fuel, and the fuel that powers them is free. And both are getting cheaper every year while the cost of gas and coal is increasing.
 

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The air in china is toxic now. I suppose it's so bad it can't get any worse.
The Chinese are putting in more renewables than anyone. They are planting more forests than the rest of the world put together. They know that they are endangering their own existence with the burning of coal, but are looking at the short run and the rising expectations of their population. They are also producing and using more electric vehicles than any other nation on Earth.
 

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Nation and State ^ | 09/21/2021 | Tyler Durden

Congressional Democrats and the Biden administration are working towards an ambitious goal of eliminating coal-fired electricity and 'decarbonize' the US electric grid by 2035.

To meet such an aggressive deadline, House Democrats unveiled a $150 billion 'clean electricity' program to incentivize utility companies to phase out fossil fuels for clean energy. The Clean Electricity Performance Program, or CEPP, would reward utility that boost their percentage of electricity supplied to the grid from green sources - such as solar, wind and hydro, between 2023 and 2030.


Exhaust rises from the East Bend Generating Station, a coal-fired power plant owned and operated by Duke Energy, along the Ohio River in Union, Kentucky, U.S., September 14, 2017. (REUTERS/Brian Snyder)


S&P Global explains more about the program:


In short, Democrats are asking power companies to take a huge gamble on renewable energy - which would effectively 'kill' coal-fired electricity in the US.

"The CEPP would eliminate coal-fired electricity by 2030, if not sooner," according to a letter to House reps by Michelle Bloodworth, CEO of America's Power - which represents top miners, who added that the program would also "eliminate or at least drastically curtail the use of natural gas to generate electricity."

Biden's plans to decarbonize the power sector by 2035 is an enormous task, however according to America's Power, utilities are already making the switch - rushing headfirst into solar and wind projects which have inherent stability risks.

For example, there have been three significant grid issues this year involving renewables, the first in Texas, then California, and the UK. In Texas, a cold snap in early 2021 froze wind turbines and nearly crashed the entire power grid in the state. In California, wildfires strained the clean energy grid where state officials requested the federal government to relax air quality rules to burn natural gas turbines. And in the UK, wind power generation has dropped, straining the grid.

Not all Democrats agree


In a break from Democrats, Sen. Joe Manchin from the mining state of West Virginia mentioned last month that the coal industry "will be saved, has to be saved, because the country can't survive without it." He believes that there will eventually be "a transition" to other energy sources like atomic fusion, hydrogen gas, and nuclear power.

While coal generation has dropped by half over the past two decades, its use has sharply risen since the pandemic began - increasing from 15% to 23%.



And while US progressives may be able to 'kill' coal in the West (at potentially great cost to grid stability), Asia is headed in the opposite direction.

Last month, TIME reported that China is planning to build 43 new coal-fired power plants and 18 new blast furnaces, despite the world's largest polluter pledging to bring its emissions to a peak before 2030, and achieve carbon neutrality by 2060.



As FreightWaves' Greg Miller noted in July, bulk ships full of coal are headed to Asia.

"Turns out the news of the demise of coal has been greatly exaggerated," said Stifel analyst Ben Nolan in a new client note. "Despite an unseemly carbon footprint, coal demand is actually accelerating this year" across much of Asia.

In other words, China is leading a coal recovery by restarting dozens of shuttered coal mines to increase power demand, while other Asian nations are engaged in their own coal projects.



So as Democrats stage a dramatic 'kill the coal' campaign in the United States - an effort which will only be passed along to consumers (hurting low-income families the most), many other parts of the world, including China, Australia, South Africa, and South America, continue to use traditional energy sources as demand shows no signs of abating.

--------------------

One truly wonders how true satire really is...

Joe,

We’re going to burn more coal so you need to speed up the purchase of Chinese-made solar panels.

Xi
I've been saying it for the past 5 years China is laughing their asses off at us while we torture ourselves starving our grid as they feast upon the cheap and reliable energy source of coal.
 

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The Chinese are putting in more renewables than anyone. They are planting more forests than the rest of the world put together. They know that they are endangering their own existence with the burning of coal, but are looking at the short run and the rising expectations of their population. They are also producing and using more electric vehicles than any other nation on Earth.

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Thanks for the Commie propaganda...
 

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The Chinese are putting in more renewables than anyone. They are planting more forests than the rest of the world put together. They know that they are endangering their own existence with the burning of coal, but are looking at the short run and the rising expectations of their population. They are also producing and using more electric vehicles than any other nation on Earth.
You moron they are also building more coal fired plants every week than anyone else in fact than everyone else added together. So your reasoning is a bit like saying the rapist down the street is an okay guy because he also runs a child care center. Do you guys ever get sick tired of thinking in the form of human waste?
 

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Thanks for the Commie propaganda...
Another Dunning-Kruger person. The information is from our own satellite systems. Kind of easy to spot forests, wind and solar farms. I did not endorse their leaders nor their political system. I stated what they are presently doing and have done that is easily confirmed.
 

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You moron they are also building more coal fired plants every week than anyone else in fact than everyone else added together. So your reasoning is a bit like saying the rapist down the street is an okay guy because he also runs a child care center. Do you guys ever get sick tired of thinking in the form of human waste?
Look you foul asshole, If we were doing as much, we would have every right to criticize their efforts. Their coal fired plants are a detriment to everyone on this planet, but especially to the Chinese. A changing climate is and will affect China more than most other nations. That does not mean we should dismiss their real efforts to move to a cleaner energy system.
 

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Look you foul asshole, If we were doing as much, we would have every right to criticize their efforts. Their coal fired plants are a detriment to everyone on this planet, but especially to the Chinese. A changing climate is and will affect China more than most other nations. That does not mean we should dismiss their real efforts to move to a cleaner energy system.

Actually, It's not the climate they are changing, but it's the atmosphere. The aerosols and Particulates suspended in their atmosphere surpasses all danger zone numbers and threatens us all.
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Actually, It's not the climate they are changing, but it's the atmosphere. The aerosols and Particulates suspended in their atmosphere surpasses all danger zone numbers and threatens us all.
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Yes, it is the climate that they are changing. In addition to the health of their citizens from pollution, they are aiding in the increase of heat in the atmosphere. 1 degree, C, of heat added to the atmosphere means the atmosphere will increase it's ability to hold water vapor by 7%. That not only accelerates the warming, but also creates more flooding. Which China has now experienced in spades for the last two years.
 

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I wish it were ONLY in China....

Where the ruling elite herded inconvenient populations into "camps" to die in order to make room for "green" energy production.

What are YOU going to eat when Xiden & his puppet masters outlaw the growing of vegetables or raising livestock so the land can be roofed over with solar panels? Oh wait! You'll be OK when you adapt a diet of ground (feathers, beaks and all) birds - the by-product of murderous windmachines!

Or better yet - dine on free liberal bullshit! The stuff you're being fed daily by The MSM. True, it'll be a paste form you can't eat with a fork but once you get past the smell you'll have it LICKED.
 

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Smaller economies get hit harder by stupidity, than a large economy. That is why these smaller economies are switching back to coal.
 
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I wish it were ONLY in China....

Where the ruling elite herded inconvenient populations into "camps" to die in order to make room for "green" energy production.

What are YOU going to eat when Xiden & his puppet masters outlaw the growing of vegetables or raising livestock so the land can be roofed over with solar panels? Oh wait! You'll be OK when you adapt a diet of ground (feathers, beaks and all) birds - the by-product of murderous windmachines!

Or better yet - dine on free liberal bullshit! The stuff you're being fed daily by The MSM. True, it'll be a paste form you can't eat with a fork but once you get past the smell you'll have it LICKED.
Lord, but you are one stupid fuck. Agrivoltaics will increase food production, and China is already practicing it.
 

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I wish it were ONLY in China....

Where the ruling elite herded inconvenient populations into "camps" to die in order to make room for "green" energy production.

What are YOU going to eat when Xiden & his puppet masters outlaw the growing of vegetables or raising livestock so the land can be roofed over with solar panels? Oh wait! You'll be OK when you adapt a diet of ground (feathers, beaks and all) birds - the by-product of murderous windmachines!

Or better yet - dine on free liberal bullshit! The stuff you're being fed daily by The MSM. True, it'll be a paste form you can't eat with a fork but once you get past the smell you'll have it LICKED.
What are the biggest killers of birds?

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