Which single issue hands the midterms to the GOP?

[SavannahMann]

It is never one thing. It won’t be a single issue. If the GOP wins, a possible outcome, it won’t be a single issue.

Voters are not sheep. They don’t all react alike to the same stimulus. Some will feel Immigration is the biggest issue. Some will feel it is the economy. Others will feel it is public health. Others will have other issues. How many supporters of a Woman’s Right to Choose will vote GOP after Texas and Kansas violated Roe? Economy be damned. They are not going to vote GOP.

And the GOP is badly splintered. Between the Trump Fanboys and the traditional Conservatives. The GOP almost certainly won’t have the turnout they need.

Take Georgia. My State as an example. We have two candidates for the nomination for Governor. The incumbent Kemp. And Sunny Purdue. Purdue lost the Senate Seat to Warnock. Trump has endorsed Purdue. So if Kemp wins how many fanboys will turn out to vote for Kemp who they blame for not helping Trump stay in office? If Purdue wins how many Conservatives turn out to support a Trump Accolade?

Democrats win. Because of a fractured Republican Party.

And their issue isn’t the economy. It’s the election of 2020.

 

[YoursTruly]

Actually, it's exactly about percentages.. and the percentages have been pretty consistent. I will start with 2000 because 96 and 92 had credible third party participation.

Dems since 2000 - 48.5, 49, 54, 52, 48, 51

Republicans since 2000 48, 50, 45, 47, 46, 47

The numbers really haven't changed in terms of percentages, the raw number of votes has steadily increased because the electorate has gotten larger

So people who sat on the sidelines in 2016 (A low point in voter turnout) showed up in 2020, but the percentages really didn't shift that much. Probably more in Biden's favor, because the people who voted for third parties voted for him this time.

It's only about percentages because you're trying to make this out to be about percentages. But the bottom line is the actual numbers.
You lefties like to use percentages when it makes a stronger case for what ever BS you're trying to push. Like white cops vs black thugs. As in less than 20 blacks, out of hundreds were unarmed when they were shot by the cops. The rest were armed and committing crimes during that time.

The democrats have the majority in the house, senate and the white house. And yet they're still not getting anything done for the majority of the people. So all those votes that went for Biden seems to be turning out for nil. The left got what they wanted. They finally got rid of Trump. But replaced him with what? A senile old fart who has to have people telling him what to say and do, 24/7.
He's done nothing for the border guards and their security. Nothing for most of the working class Americans. He's not repealed the tax cuts for the rich.
About the ONLY thing he's done was allowed Trannies in the military to get their peckers cut off, at tax payers expense and shut down the Keystone jobs.

Put that in your percentage pipe and smoke it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It is never one thing. It won’t be a single issue. If the GOP wins, a possible outcome, it won’t be a single issue.

Voters are not sheep. They don’t all react alike to the same stimulus. Some will feel Immigration is the biggest issue. Some will feel it is the economy. Others will feel it is public health. Others will have other issues. How many supporters of a Woman’s Right to Choose will vote GOP after Texas and Kansas violated Roe? Economy be damned. They are not going to vote GOP.

And the GOP is badly splintered. Between the Trump Fanboys and the traditional Conservatives. The GOP almost certainly won’t have the turnout they need.

Take Georgia. My State as an example. We have two candidates for the nomination for Governor. The incumbent Kemp. And Sunny Purdue. Purdue lost the Senate Seat to Warnock. Trump has endorsed Purdue. So if Kemp wins how many fanboys will turn out to vote for Kemp who they blame for not helping Trump stay in office? If Purdue wins how many Conservatives turn out to support a Trump Accolade?

Democrats win. Because of a fractured Republican Party.

And their issue isn’t the economy. It’s the election of 2020.

The 2020 election is a Democrat issue less a Republican one. I believe this is the first time in history that an opposing Congress went after an ex President a year after he was gone. So scared to death of Trump are they that they are trying to ruin him before he comes back to haunt them again.

You can live with this fallacy that every single American woman supports abortion but I'm telling you you're kidding yourself. The Democrat party is bleeding the minority and Independent vote in huge numbers. Their concern at this point is not so much of a political slaughter, but how bad the slaughter is going to be.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

But people loved those things Trump did! They were very popular.

Many didn't pay attention at the time but they are paying attention now, especially those who live near that border or who's city was targeted for the secret transfer of untested immigrants. It's local taxpayers that have to pay for those schools those illegals are going to send their kids to. It's their children that will be held up in class because of non-English speaking kids polluting their schools that they pay big money to support.

As they saying goes, you don't realize how good you had it until it's gone.

 

[SavannahMann]

The 2020 election is a Democrat issue less a Republican one. I believe this is the first time in history that an opposing Congress went after an ex President a year after he was gone. So scared to death of Trump are they that they are trying to ruin him before he comes back to haunt them again.

You can live with this fallacy that every single American woman supports abortion but I'm telling you you're kidding yourself. The Democrat party is bleeding the minority and Independent vote in huge numbers. Their concern at this point is not so much of a political slaughter, but how bad the slaughter is going to be.

I’m not seeing any evidence of your assertions. Let’s continue with Georgia.

Stacey Abrams lost by 50,000 votes 3 years ago. A year ago Democrats ran the table. And don’t pretend it was a stolen election. Enough of that CT crap.

But we are supposed to believe that this year. Well let’s look at it. Purdue lost a statewide election to Warnock. A Minister with little or no real experience. Why? Purdue was investigated for some insider trading. While he was not prosecuted he still took a big hit for it. Enough that he was voted out of office. Trump says he should be the next Governor. He may well win the Primary but do you think that Georgians will turn out in sufficient numbers to elect him Governor?

By comparison Kemp has pretty good approval numbers. At least as good as any other Republican and the advantage of incumbency. He stands the best chance of winning.

So on to the Senate Race. The Trump approved candidate reported in his autobiography that he suffered from multiple personality disorder. Do you honestly think the Republicans are going to win with that?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I’m not seeing any evidence of your assertions. Let’s continue with Georgia.

Stacey Abrams lost by 50,000 votes 3 years ago. A year ago Democrats ran the table. And don’t pretend it was a stolen election. Enough of that CT crap.

But we are supposed to believe that this year. Well let’s look at it. Purdue lost a statewide election to Warnock. A Minister with little or no real experience. Why? Purdue was investigated for some insider trading. While he was not prosecuted he still took a big hit for it. Enough that he was voted out of office. Trump says he should be the next Governor. He may well win the Primary but do you think that Georgians will turn out in sufficient numbers to elect him Governor?

By comparison Kemp has pretty good approval numbers. At least as good as any other Republican and the advantage of incumbency. He stands the best chance of winning.

So on to the Senate Race. The Trump approved candidate reported in his autobiography that he suffered from multiple personality disorder. Do you honestly think the Republicans are going to win with that?

Not following Georgia to be totally honest. But there are many articles on the loss of the Hispanic vote nationwide by Democrats. They lost Independents a long time ago. They lost Virginia and some Republican truck drier won a state rep job in NYC. I see plenty of evidence the Democrats are in real trouble unless they can turn things around which would mean bringing back Trump's policies which they are hell bent of not doing.

 

[easyt65]

What single issue?
A 'D' in front of any politician's name.

Democrats are so afraid to face their Constituents they are fleeing like rats on a sinking ship rather than run and lose ... BADLY.

 

[Oldestyle]

Obviously no one is going into business when there's no sign of a profit. Duh!!!!! Does the market need X? Can I provide X? Can I make a profit from X? If the answer is yes, and one has the resources, then the business gets started (or expanded to meet that demand). Business 101.
And only when it's government jobs, does anyone start a business with government contracts, unless the government is going to pay.

I've never started a business based on the decisions, policies and regulations of any president. And 99% of all other business's didn't either.
You're trying to make it sound like government is the reason why so many people go into business for themselves. And that's just no so. Not even close. Most business owners could care less about what the government is doing. And you damn well know it.
For the most part, most people aren't political.
So please just stop with this BS.
When I bought my first semi, I didn't care who the president was or which party was in the majority. When I opened my small engine business, I didn't care about that either. Every job I ever took, I took because I alone wanted to. Not because of who was president.
99% of the people in this country, their lives don't revolve around politics.

"Most business owners could care less about what the government is doing."
Let me ask you a question. If you were getting ready to buy that Semi and you were informed that Congress was about to tax truckers for each mile they logged...would that affect your decision? I ran night clubs. When government dropped the drinking age to 18 the club I managed back then turned into a gold mine. When they subsequently raised the drinking age back to 21 clubs all across the country closed up. In Massachusetts Happy Hours were banned. It totally changed the way bars operated. I ALWAYS paid attention to what politicians were doing in matters to do with my business! To be blunt...you'd have to be an idiot NOT to! You've got business owners in New York that are watching in horror as their politicians start to impose new Covid restrictions. Do you think THEY care what the government is doing?

 

[YoursTruly]

"Most business owners could care less about what the government is doing."
Let me ask you a question. If you were getting ready to buy that Semi and you were informed that Congress was about to tax truckers for each mile they logged...would that affect your decision?

No, it wouldn't. Because freight rates would increase to cover the charges. Otherwise no independent trucker would run his semi. We'd load the freight, and then park those fuckers in ever truck stop from Banger Maine to San Diego, until the government got smart.

I ran night clubs. When government dropped the drinking age to 18 the club I managed back then turned into a gold mine. When they subsequently raised the drinking age back to 21 clubs all across the country closed up. In Massachusetts Happy Hours were banned. It totally changed the way bars operated.

Many of them were just bad business men. Relying on one single age group to stay open, was just stupid. No happy hour? Whoopty friggin do. You still only charge $1 for a drink from 5 to 6pm. Just don't call it happy hour. Another Duh!!!!!!!

I ALWAYS paid attention to what politicians were doing in matters to do with my business! To be blunt...you'd have to be an idiot NOT to! You've got business owners in New York that are watching in horror as their politicians start to impose new Covid restrictions. Do you think THEY care what the government is doing?

In any business you have A. Customer. B. Product. C. Operations. If C is stupid, or don't have two braincells, he'll lose A by not providing B at a profit.

Obviously, you only ran night clubs. You never owned one. Or owned one in a way that made it successful. Because that about the ONLY reason business's go under. Management. Unless you're a government contractor.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, it wouldn't. Because freight rates would increase to cover the charges. Otherwise no independent trucker would run his semi. We'd load the freight, and then park those fuckers in ever truck stop from Banger Maine to San Diego, until the government got smart.


Many of them were just bad business men. Relying on one single age group to stay open, was just stupid. No happy hour? Whoopty friggin do. You still only charge $1 for a drink from 5 to 6pm. Just don't call it happy hour. Another Duh!!!!!!!


In any business you have A. Customer. B. Product. C. Operations. If C is stupid, or don't have two braincells, he'll lose A by not providing B at a profit.

Obviously, you only ran night clubs. You never owned one. Or owned one in a way that made it successful. Because that about the ONLY reason business's go under. Management. Unless you're a government contractor.

I disagree. And BTW, how many clubs have you run in your life?

When the commies came out with eviction restrictions, you bet I paid attention. Luckily for me my tenants never exercised that option. They all work, kept their jobs and paid rent as always. However for landlords that had to deal with tenants that did take advantage of those new restrictions, it could (and probably was) the choice between keeping the property and getting rid of it. The sooner it expired the quicker the relief for those poor landlords. After all, most of the rent we collect goes to running the place and paying the bills. Just because your tenants are not paying rent doesn't mean those bills don't have to be paid. You have to figure out how to raise the money to do so.

Then there is the problem of trying to get that back rent. That means lawyers, court, time of of work if you have a job. If you're lucky you can recoup that lost money, but in many cases you can't if the tenant decided to let government support them instead of working. You can't garnish unemployment checks.

So depending on your industry, what government does plays a big role in your business. If I were not a landlord already, I certainly wouldn't be looking for rental property amid eviction restrictions. Too much of an expense and problem.

 

[Mac-7]

Which single issue hands the midterms to the GOP?​

Whatever issue it is absentee ballot fraud will hand the election back to the democrats

 

[Oldestyle]

No, it wouldn't. Because freight rates would increase to cover the charges. Otherwise no independent trucker would run his semi. We'd load the freight, and then park those fuckers in ever truck stop from Banger Maine to San Diego, until the government got smart.


Many of them were just bad business men. Relying on one single age group to stay open, was just stupid. No happy hour? Whoopty friggin do. You still only charge $1 for a drink from 5 to 6pm. Just don't call it happy hour. Another Duh!!!!!!!


In any business you have A. Customer. B. Product. C. Operations. If C is stupid, or don't have two braincells, he'll lose A by not providing B at a profit.

Obviously, you only ran night clubs. You never owned one. Or owned one in a way that made it successful. Because that about the ONLY reason business's go under. Management. Unless you're a government contractor.

You're obviously clueless about this topic. Just don't call it happy hour? Yeah, like the powers that be are gonna let that slide! (eye roll) Here's a basic synopsis of how that went down in Massachusetts. Happy Hours were banned. If you sold a drink for a $1.00 then you had to keep it a dollar for an entire week. If you abused the new regulations...you lost your liquor license! "Whoopty friggin do"? Let me see if I can make you understand. Losing your liquor license to a bar is like losing your driver's license if you're a trucker! Duh?

I owned two night clubs. I managed some of the largest in the country. All of them have been successful. Most of them are no longer in existence and it's NOT because of bad management! I'll give you a perfect example of that. I ran a club in Wilmington, NC. down on Front Street which used to be a bad section of the city until some outside investors started opening hip restaurants and bars there. Those bars were killing it until the Good Ole Boys who run Wilmington decided that the now happening part of Wilmington that they didn't own property in was desirable and they wanted it. So what did they DO? They passed a local noise ordinance. If you could hear music from across the street then you were too loud. That went into effect at 10pm on weekdays and 12 on weekends which basically meant you couldn't have live bands or DJ's entertaining at any club. That noise ordinance put a dozen bars out of business and there wasn't a thing they could do to stop it. They went under and the local Good Ole Boys swooped in and bought up the properties. Then they got rid of the noise ordinance! THAT is what "government" can do to a private business.

 

[Lisa558]

No, it wouldn't. Because freight rates would increase to cover the charges. Otherwise no independent trucker would run his semi. We'd load the freight, and then park those fuckers in ever truck stop from Banger Maine to San Diego, until the government got smart.


Many of them were just bad business men. Relying on one single age group to stay open, was just stupid. No happy hour? Whoopty friggin do. You still only charge $1 for a drink from 5 to 6pm. Just don't call it happy hour. Another Duh!!!!!!!


In any business you have A. Customer. B. Product. C. Operations. If C is stupid, or don't have two braincells, he'll lose A by not providing B at a profit.

Obviously, you only ran night clubs. You never owned one. Or owned one in a way that made it successful. Because that about the ONLY reason business's go under. Management. Unless you're a government contractor.

Seems like you want government to be able to take over and regulate and control to its heart content - and that’s why you are arguing that what the government does has no bearing on a business‘s success.

Hogwash.

If the government decided to charge freighters a mileage tax, your argument is that freighr rates would just go up to cover it. But SOMEONE eventually has to pay the added cost. The higher freight charges would show up in higher wholesale prices to the seller.

And to use your line of thinking….so what, you say? That increase is covered in higher prices. That means the end user would have to pay. (That’s called inflation by the way.)

And people will have to cut back, particularly if the business is selling discretionary items, or even if some of what it sells is discretionary. Sales plummet. Profit drops. Business close.

It’s almost like the pro-government control liberals want to allow the government to destroy private business (the march toward socialism) while denying that’s what’s happening. If water could talk, it would say “oh no, froggie, it’s just your imagination that the water is getting hot.”

 

[Lisa558]

You're obviously clueless about this topic. Just don't call it happy hour? Yeah, like the powers that be are gonna let that slide! (eye roll) Here's a basic synopsis of how that went down in Massachusetts. Happy Hours were banned. If you sold a drink for a $1.00 then you had to keep it a dollar for an entire week. If you abused the new regulations...you lost your liquor license! "Whoopty friggin do"? Let me see if I can make you understand. Losing your liquor license to a bar is like losing your driver's license if you're a trucker! Duh?

I owned two night clubs. I managed some of the largest in the country. All of them have been successful. Most of them are no longer in existence and it's NOT because of bad management! I'll give you a perfect example of that. I ran a club in Wilmington, NC. down on Front Street which used to be a bad section of the city until some outside investors started opening hip restaurants and bars there. Those bars were killing it until the Good Ole Boys who run Wilmington decided that the now happening part of Wilmington that they didn't own property in was desirable and they wanted it. So what did they DO? They passed a local noise ordinance. If you could hear music from across the street then you were too loud. That went into effect at 10pm on weekdays and 12 on weekends which basically meant you couldn't have live bands or DJ's entertaining at any club. That noise ordinance put a dozen bars out of business and there wasn't a thing they could do to stop it. They went under and the local Good Ole Boys swooped in and bought up the properties. Then they got rid of the noise ordinance! THAT is what "government" can do to a private business.

True. The government would just issue a regulation that says prices must remain constant throughout the day.

 

[JoeB131]

It's only about percentages because you're trying to make this out to be about percentages. But the bottom line is the actual numbers.
You lefties like to use percentages when it makes a stronger case for what ever BS you're trying to push. Like white cops vs black thugs. As in less than 20 blacks, out of hundreds were unarmed when they were shot by the cops. The rest were armed and committing crimes during that time.

Actually, the raw numbers don't look good for you guys, either. Biden got 81 million votes. More than anyone in history. Of course, every election the numbers get bigger because the population keeps getting bigger. But in terms of percentages, you guys are still in the minority.

The GOP solution, of course, is voter suppression... instead of trying to convince more people their point is right.

20 unarmed blacks shot by thug cops is too many. Period.

The democrats have the majority in the house, senate and the white house. And yet they're still not getting anything done for the majority of the people. So all those votes that went for Biden seems to be turning out for nil. The left got what they wanted. They finally got rid of Trump. But replaced him with what? A senile old fart who has to have people telling him what to say and do, 24/7.

Actually, they got quite a lot done.. The Recovery bill and the infrastructure bill are quite impressive feats. We've gone from >1% vaccinated to 70% vaccinated in less than a year.

He's done nothing for the border guards and their security. Nothing for most of the working class Americans. He's not repealed the tax cuts for the rich.

Are you kidding? Most working class Americans are working now, we have more jobs than we have people to fill them and a lot of people are doing career changes because of it.

About the ONLY thing he's done was allowed Trannies in the military to get their peckers cut off, at tax payers expense and shut down the Keystone jobs.

Actually, transition therapy was already being paid for, and for the Keystone jobs, good riddance.

 

[JoeB131]

You're obviously clueless about this topic. Just don't call it happy hour? Yeah, like the powers that be are gonna let that slide! (eye roll) Here's a basic synopsis of how that went down in Massachusetts. Happy Hours were banned. If you sold a drink for a $1.00 then you had to keep it a dollar for an entire week. If you abused the new regulations...you lost your liquor license! "Whoopty friggin do"? Let me see if I can make you understand. Losing your liquor license to a bar is like losing your driver's license if you're a trucker! Duh?

So you were getting people pissed-ass drunk on cheap beer, they were causing a lot of DUI accidents, and then someone decided they were sick of all these drunks and did something about it.

This is the problem with you wingnuts... you think Government is this mysterious force that frustrates you instead of what it actually is, the reflection of the popular will.

I owned two night clubs. I managed some of the largest in the country. All of them have been successful. Most of them are no longer in existence and it's NOT because of bad management! I'll give you a perfect example of that. I ran a club in Wilmington, NC. down on Front Street which used to be a bad section of the city until some outside investors started opening hip restaurants and bars there. Those bars were killing it until the Good Ole Boys who run Wilmington decided that the now happening part of Wilmington that they didn't own property in was desirable and they wanted it. So what did they DO? They passed a local noise ordinance. If you could hear music from across the street then you were too loud. That went into effect at 10pm on weekdays and 12 on weekends which basically meant you couldn't have live bands or DJ's entertaining at any club. That noise ordinance put a dozen bars out of business and there wasn't a thing they could do to stop it. They went under and the local Good Ole Boys swooped in and bought up the properties. Then they got rid of the noise ordinance! THAT is what "government" can do to a private business.

Gee, it sounds like the people of that town didn't like the noise. I actually researched this a bit, and not surprisingly, it's not the way you portrayed it. It actually sounds like the residents of the town had a lot of input in the initial noise ordinance and its revisions.

Turn that music down! City of Wilmington revisiting noise ordinances, possible changes in the works | Port City Daily

WILMINGTON — Turn that music down! The City of Wilmington is considering some changes to the city's noise ordinance to address growing concerns as more and more residents choose to call the Port…

portcitydaily.com

After settling lawsuit, Wilmington looks to update noise ordinance

Whether it be loud music coming from bars and restaurants, construction sounds early in the morning or dogs barking at a kennel near a neighborhood, the city of Wilmington has a specific limit on sound.

www.wect.com

 

[JoeB131]

So depending on your industry, what government does plays a big role in your business. If I were not a landlord already, I certainly wouldn't be looking for rental property amid eviction restrictions. Too much of an expense and problem.

Well, you wouldn't.

Meanwhile, it the real world, you have investors looking to take Condo Associations and deconvert them into rentals because the rental market is so hot. Investors paid me 20% above market value for my old Condo because there is such a demand for rental properties.

 

[Vrenn]

True. The government would just issue a regulation that says prices must remain constant throughout the day.

Not going to happen. That's one of the reasons that almost the entire political spectrum had to get rid of Nixon. He tried to price fix and it bit him pretty damned good. NO, this is not the official reason but it's the reason his own party jumped on that wagon headed for the gallows.

 

[Lisa558]

Not going to happen. That's one of the reasons that almost the entire political spectrum had to get rid of Nixon. He tried to price fix and it bit him pretty damned good. NO, this is not the official reason but it's the reason his own party jumped on that wagon headed for the gallows.

That was the government of Nixon, where Americans did not allow the government to impede freedoms the way we are seeing now.

 

[Hellokitty]

Nope.

What hands the midterms to the Republicans is that midterms ALWAYS go to the out of power party.

Then the GOP will remind everyone why they voted them out to start with. it's what happened in 1994 and 2010.

Now, it would be nice if we had an electorate with a memory span greater than a goldfish, but there you are.

Or they could remind people why they moved from the democrat run cities/states...