Which Side Are You On?

[docmauser1]

The Jews have been in the area of Israel for several thousand years, the Muslims, not so much....

If they had been there they wouldn't have needed the West to reestablish the place. Learn the actual history, which isn't the Jews have been there for centuries.This is biased but useful: Brief History of Israel and the Jewish People

Funny, reads like jews, actually, have been there for centuries, but, hey, it's politically correct to say "no" ...

 

[citizenal]

And your one-sided rhetoric did something else? I don't think so.

MHunterB:

What you and many others posting on this thread is that there is a huge difference between rhetoric and logically drawn conclusion from the facts. From my perspective most of what I hear in this thread is just over- exaggerated propaganda. In contrast, my offerings start with a very important and pointed question namely, “Who started this, how did it happen, and who stole what from whom?” Once these questions are answered everything else logically follows.

Surely, even you will agree that the people who started this conflict are the Israelis and they are the ones who took the Palestinian territories by force. If the Israelis started this conflict and they are the ones who evicted the Palestinians from their homes and the land of the forebears, then anything the Palestinians do to redress the situation is justified, including building tunnels and fire toy rockets, not at the Israelis, but in their general direction.

You know something? In regard to Gaza, to date I have not seen one photo of a destroyed building in Israel, but yet I have seen pictures of city blocks destroyed by Israel in Gaza. And you call me one sided?

 

[Lipush]

Israelis started the conflict?

Who exactly accepted the 1948 offer, and who rejected it?

Either you're a liar, or a deciever.

Either way, your history offering is totally false.

 

[citizenal]

The U.N declared a Two State Solution which the Arabs rejected . This idea also evolved after WW 1 . Educate yourself and read about what happened in Hebron. " Right of Return" would destroy the Jewish State that the U.N declared and annex Israel to Palestine. Educate yourself and tell us why Abbas declared No Israelis in the Palestinian State or why Hamas declared they will never accept the " Two State Solution"

Because the "Two State Solution" gave the biggest share of the lane to the Israelis who, by far, where the smallest percentage of the population. Secondly, what right did the UN or the gang of nations you mention have to step in and decide anything. Oh, I forgot! This right was given to them by their central banks all of which were owned by the Rothschild's.

 

[citizenal]

Just tell white northamericans, australians, newzelanders, et al., to get their asses back from where they come from and we'll talk. hehe[/size][/font]

Before I do that, let's talk about might makes right and the rule of law no longer being operative in the world. HAW! HAW! That's a real knee slapper.

How come all of you guys in order to support a rogue nation like Israel, totally forget what the United States is supposed to be and supposed to stand for. Are we supposed to be a nation that picks a side in a conflict and helps one side win, or are we a nation which is supposed to seeks fairness, justice, and peace for all concerned. Right now this nation is on the side of perpetual war and it is this abomination which has cost us the Nation bequeathed us by the Founders. May God help us all.

 

[docmauser1]

Because the "Two State Solution" gave the biggest share of the lane to the Israelis who, by far, where the smallest percentage of the population. Secondly, what right did the UN or the gang of nations you mention have to step in and decide anything. Oh, I forgot! This right was given to them by their central banks all of which were owned by the Rothschild's.

Before I do that, let's talk about might makes right and the rule of law no longer being operative in the world. HAW! HAW! That's a real knee slapper.
How come all of you guys in order to support a rogue nation like Israel, totally forget what the United States is supposed to be and supposed to stand for. Are we supposed to be a nation that picks a side in a conflict and helps one side win, or are we a nation which is supposed to seeks fairness, justice, and peace for all concerned. Right now this nation is on the side of perpetual war and it is this abomination which has cost us the Nation bequeathed us by the Founders. May God help us all.

Hashish drivel.

 

[Crystalclear]

The U.N declared a Two State Solution which the Arabs rejected . This idea also evolved after WW 1 . Educate yourself and read about what happened in Hebron. " Right of Return" would destroy the Jewish State that the U.N declared and annex Israel to Palestine. Educate yourself and tell us why Abbas declared No Israelis in the Palestinian State or why Hamas declared they will never accept the " Two State Solution"

Because the "Two State Solution" gave the biggest share of the lane to the Israelis who, by far, where the smallest percentage of the population. Secondly, what right did the UN or the gang of nations you mention have to step in and decide anything. Oh, I forgot! This right was given to them by their central banks all of which were owned by the Rothschild's.

But still the agreement was in favour of the Arabs, because the British had promised everything of Palestine to the Jewish people. Still, the Jews agreed on a resolution that gave them less land than was promised before. So, the Arabs had nothing to complain about.
The UN and the League of Nations had the right to step in because they were the governing power over the formee Ottoman territory.

 

[SAYIT]

The U.N declared a Two State Solution which the Arabs rejected . This idea also evolved after WW 1 . Educate yourself and read about what happened in Hebron. " Right of Return" would destroy the Jewish State that the U.N declared and annex Israel to Palestine. Educate yourself and tell us why Abbas declared No Israelis in the Palestinian State or why Hamas declared they will never accept the " Two State Solution"

This right was given to them by their central banks all of which were owned by the Rothschild's.

Oops ... like you just slithered out of that closet, Eva Braun.
Would post the link at which you learned that bit of nonsense?

 

[citizenal]

Hashish drivel.[/size][/font]

Ya got any?

 

[Phoenall]

The Jews have been in the area of Israel for several thousand years, the Muslims, not so much....

True! And they lived peacefully beside the Arabs for most of those thousands of years. This was true because the indigent Jews had much in common with the Arabs. However, it wasn't until the establishment of the state of Israel that the Jews decided to make the Arabs second class citizens in the land of their forefathers. How would you feel under these circumstances? Is this what the United States America is all about; defending injustice?

Try again, only this time look up the Pact of Omar and the dhimmi laws to see just how the non muslims were treated by the muslims

 

[Phoenall]

Dear Healthmyths:

Any one of us can very easily list a plethora of wrongs and atrocities committed by both sides of this conflict. To what purpose; as in all wars, to demonize the other side so people will feel comfortable with destruction, slaughter and murder. The only rational way to decide this issue is as it is with all issues; logically, rationally, and in keeping with the sound principles of justice and fair play. All your one-sided rhetoric does is contribute to the continuation of the conflict and ensure that war is a permanent condition for humankind.

Then list the atrocities by Israel that are not down to arab muslim nationalism and terrorism ?

 

[citizenal]

But still the agreement was in favour of the Arabs, because the British had promised everything of Palestine to the Jewish people. Still, the Jews agreed on a resolution that gave them less land than was promised before. So, the Arabs had nothing to complain about.

The UN and the League of Nations had the right to step in because they were the governing power over the formee Ottoman territory.

I am having a hard time with "the agreement was in favor of the Arabs" from the information I have and before responding want to research the matter further. My impression was that it was an unfair imposed solution and if it wasn't, I would like to know who the Arabs were that agreed to the settlement. In case you didn't know, you can bride and Arab just as easily as you can bribe and American. What do you think we are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan? Point of fact, we do more bribing than we do killing. I think the wars keep going in these nations because American bribes are largest segment of their economy.

 

[citizenal]

Oops ... like you just slithered out of that closet, Eva Braun.
Would post the link at which you learned that bit of nonsense?

Okay, I stand corrected. I should have said "Banksters", the Rothschilds only being the major player in this criminal cartel.

Boy, when you slam dunk someone, it really hurts. I'm so rattled, I may retract everything I have written. Oops! Sorry, I suddenly feel better. Everything I said still stands.

How bout reading this article I wrote entitled "Economics for Idiots"?

Article: Economics For Idiots | OpEdNews

 

[Daniyel]

Open question:why should Israel support hostile nation of Islamic extremists? So why should Israel even compromise when these psychos launching rockets and digging tunnels to hurt innocent civilians?
I stand with Israel - now and forever

 

[citizenal]

Then list the atrocities by Israel that are not down to arab muslim nationalism and terrorism ?

Try these:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Byz2uKmF8]Israeli atrocities in palestine-MUST WATCH- part1 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPgrDrdQKlg]MUST WATCH! "Synagogue of Satan" (Full) by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock 1936-2006 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Daniyel]

I'm Jewish, worshiping Satan is one of the Die but never do commands..Demonizing Israel further more would get you nowhere [MENTION=36390]citizenal[/MENTION]

 

[citizenal]

Then list the atrocities by Israel that are not down to arab muslim nationalism and terrorism ?

One of things I said I would not do when returning to these boards is to no allow anyone to make me lose my temper. I guess I am getting old and am being worn down by all you Israel lovers so I am now going to give the slam dunk….so to speak. I am an American veteran and ex-Navy Fight Pilot (F-4 Phantoms). I love my country and will defend it with my life. However, America is not my country anymore. It belongs to the Banksters and their stepchild, the State of Israel. I have no country and neither do any of you.

PROVE IT! Okay, I will.

The attached video is a BBC documentary about the USS Liberty incident. It is 108 minutes long, but as an American it is the most important 108 minutes you can spend in your entire life. In this video you will learn that prior to the Six day war in 1967, the United States government joined Israel in an unholy alliance to destroy the Arab armies threatening Israel. The operation was labeled operation Cyanide and the plan was to set up, sink and destroy a defenseless US naval spy ship (the USS Liberty) with all hands on Board to give the United States an excuse to Drop a nuclear bomb on Cairo: thus bringing the United States into the war on the side of the Israelis. Yes, you heard me right! President Lyndon Baines Johnson was ordered by his Israeli handlers to send an American naval vessel into harms way so that Israeli forces could sink it with all hands on board giving this nation the false flag excuse to incinerate Cairo like we incinerated Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Fortunately, this never happened and the only reason it never happened is because the Israelis failed to sink the Liberty. This was the only reason the world is not in a nuclear war today.

Don’t believe me. Watch the video and I sincerely hope I am wrong and one of you whiz kids can show me why. The key element of proof that substantiates what I am say is that fact that according to the video, when Johnson order the nuclear strike on Cairo and he is the only person who could possibly have ordered such an attack, all he could possible know was that an America Ship was under attack. This is all he knew. He did not know who the attacking nation was nor how many casualties there were, if any. This being the case, is it reasonable for the President to order a retaliatory nuclear strike against Cairo? Of course not, to do so was the epitome of insanity, yet it was done and it was done because it was part of a pre-conceived plan; a plan formulated by the Israelis and imposed and acted upon by President Johnson because he was working for them and not the People of this nation.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjOH1XMAwZA]"USS Liberty: Dead In The Water" (BBC Documentary 2002) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[pbel]

No matter how you slice it or cut it up, the bottom line is that Israel is the aggressor nation which wrongfully seized land that belonged to someone else. However, to really understand what is going on here, substitute Afrikaner for Israeli and Black for Palestinian and then think about which side you should be on.

Why can’t the Palestinians enjoy same rights as everyone else in the world? The reason is that this would mean that in Israel, the Palestinians would enjoy the same rights as the Israelis and to an Israeli, equal rights for anyone else under the law is anathema and repugnant. Why? All Jews claim the right of return and this means that the Jews of the world have a right to live in Palestine irrespective of whether they or their ancestors ever lived there or not. If Palestinians also enjoyed a right of return, then it would be incumbent upon the Israeli government to help them return to their homes in Israel, the only difference being that, in many cases, they would be returning to the homes which they formerly lived in and had been occupied by their families for generations; albeit homes or land now occupied by Israelis.

In conclusion, a right of return entails a winner and a loser. This being the case, there is no such right either in truth or in the eyes of God.

I stand with America which needs to stop Arming Israel who kills its neighbors and we get Terrorism in return!

 

[toastman]

Then list the atrocities by Israel that are not down to arab muslim nationalism and terrorism ?

Try these:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Byz2uKmF8]Israeli atrocities in palestine-MUST WATCH- part1 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPgrDrdQKlg]MUST WATCH! "Synagogue of Satan" (Full) by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock 1936-2006 - YouTube[/ame]

Hahaha you actually believe that SOS crap? You're pathetic

 

[toastman]

No matter how you slice it or cut it up, the bottom line is that Israel is the aggressor nation which wrongfully seized land that belonged to someone else. However, to really understand what is going on here, substitute Afrikaner for Israeli and Black for Palestinian and then think about which side you should be on.

Why can’t the Palestinians enjoy same rights as everyone else in the world? The reason is that this would mean that in Israel, the Palestinians would enjoy the same rights as the Israelis and to an Israeli, equal rights for anyone else under the law is anathema and repugnant. Why? All Jews claim the right of return and this means that the Jews of the world have a right to live in Palestine irrespective of whether they or their ancestors ever lived there or not. If Palestinians also enjoyed a right of return, then it would be incumbent upon the Israeli government to help them return to their homes in Israel, the only difference being that, in many cases, they would be returning to the homes which they formerly lived in and had been occupied by their families for generations; albeit homes or land now occupied by Israelis.

In conclusion, a right of return entails a winner and a loser. This being the case, there is no such right either in truth or in the eyes of God.

I stand with America which needs to stop Arming Israel who kills its neighbors and we get Terrorism in return!

Only deluded leftists cannot comprehend that if Hamas doesn't attack Israel, people will not die!