Which Side Are You On?

[SAYIT]

This has nothing to do with that...

Sure it does but you can fool yourself ... only yourself.

When I say that has nothing to do with it, I mean it. It's no more complicated than, "That stupid **** just cost us another client, so fire that ***** and hire a better one"...

You can tap dance all night, Princess. You can't put your genocidal worms back into your can.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So not just the Jews but the entire country of the US needs to be killed off. Nice rational thought there.

You already approved of killing off all Jews so Jew hater fits, now it seems like you want more people in that group.

Keep reading, but stop trying. You're totally clueless...

Nah, I can spot a piece of shit from a mile away.

I wish that you could. You live inside one...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Sure it does but you can fool yourself ... only yourself.

When I say that has nothing to do with it, I mean it. It's no more complicated than, "That stupid **** just cost us another client, so fire that ***** and hire a better one"...

You can tap dance all night, Princess. You can't put your genocidal worms back into your can.

I'm not attempting to little man. Genocide is rational, like execution or assassination, usually.

 

[citizenal]

The Jews have been in the area of Israel for several thousand years, the Muslims, not so much....

True! And they lived peacefully beside the Arabs for most of those thousands of years. This was true because the indigent Jews had much in common with the Arabs. However, it wasn't until the establishment of the state of Israel that the Jews decided to make the Arabs second class citizens in the land of their forefathers. How would you feel under these circumstances? Is this what the United States America is all about; defending injustice?

Spoils of war say Israel is in the right.

Or would you condone American Indians using terrorist tactics against the USA?

The spoils of War? You have got to be kidding? You really would like to live in world where might makes right and the person with the most weapons wins no matter how wrong he is. Sorry Charlie, this American Christian believes in the rule of law, goodwill toward men, and treating others as I wish to be treated.

MY GOD WHERE THE HELL HAS AMERICAN GONE?

Also in case you haven’t noticed, the Arab nations are far different than the Indian nations: the major difference being that the Indians did not know what oil was and the Arabs have lots of it which gives them the ability to be more effective fighting us and our Israeli allies. My point is that the Indians were easy pickings while, on the other hand, the Arabs are not. With the Indians, the end of hostilities was assured. With the Arabs, we face perpetual chaos and perpetual war….with the inevitable loss of freedom, the rule of law, and worse, the Republic we once had.

Have you ever asked yourself why Americans must sacrifice our government so the Israelis can have theirs? In your mind, is this a good trade off? I guess asking this question is moot because this is exactly what happened to us and this is exactly why I am so pissed off. I don’t mind helping other nations, but I do mind helping one that is in the wrong, and I am absolutely livid when by helping a nation in the wrong, I lose the one I love and defended.

Stop and think about this! It really and truly is what has happened.

 

[nodoginnafight]

I stand with Israel.
The Arabs lost some territory when they backed the wrong horse (Germany) in WW II.
It happens all the time.

They had the opportunity to negotiate better terms and refused everything that was offered.

NOW, they regret that decision.

Their tactics prevent me from supporting them.

 

[citizenal]

"An autonomous Palestinian political identity did not begin to assert itself until the mid-1960s. In the 1950s, no political organization existed around which a specifically Palestinian identity could be articulated.

Pan-Arabism was a dominant mode of political expression, and the Hashimite regime strongly promoted Jordanian sovereignty over Palestinian affairs and identity."
Jordan - Palestinians

What you say is true but moot. What we are talking about here is Arab lands and Arab territory. In case you have not noticed, us and our Israeli friends are not just fighting the Palestinians, we are at war with the entire Arab World. Remember 9/11? None of those slime balls were Palestinians.

 

[citizenal]

Lets see now, Unfair treatment.

would that include mass executions, being considered less than human, being rounded up and gassed?

As to the current conflict. Israel did not start it, Israel does not call for the destruction of all muslim countries, israel does not call for the elimination of all muslims and christians, Israel is defending itself from constant attacks from its religious enemies which surround it.

Israel does not put its missile launchers in schools and hospitals, israel does not send its children to die as suicide bombers.

Radical islam is the cause of this conflict. Until everyone deals with that truth, there will be no end to the useless dying.

Please watch this and tell me what is true and what is not.



And please do not color me a fan of David Duke because I am not.

 

[citizenal]

Spoils of war say Israel is in the right.

Or would you condone American Indians using terrorist tactics against the USA?

Or Mexican "freedom fighters" conducting a guerilla war against our Southwestern states?
Imagine our response. [/QUOTE]

Mexican "freedom fighters" conducting a war against us. Are you daft? With the help of our government, the one controlled by the Israelis, Mexico is reclaiming our Southwestern states and the rest of our nation as well........and the freedom fighters they are doing it with are called immigrants.

 

[citizenal]

You're not very familiar with history at you?

The Israelites had countless battles with their neighbors for most of Israel's existence.

Also Arabs lived in Arabia until the 8th century ad. It was only when Islam started it's expansion that you find them outside of Arabia.

So yeah I stand with Israel. Especially since it's Jordan is occupying Palestinian lands

I get your point. Instead of taking the high road as the United States of American is supposed to do, let's lower ourselves to the level of tribal animals who kill each other in the name of their God. I'm sure Jesus Christ would advise this nation to help the Israelis because they are the good guys and his Father would approve because the tribe of Judah is special to Him Similarly, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc., if they were alive today, would advise us to help Israel, because the real threat is Islam. Did you every stop and think that both Israel and Islam are equal Threats to our American way of life and peace in the world. No, this would be too much to ask, because is far easier to chose sides by choosing between the lessor of two evils.

 

[citizenal]

Actually, at this point I would side with anyone against a muslim for any reason.

How about siding against both Israel and Islam. They are both wrong and both equally a threat to Republican Democracy and the American way of life.

 

[citizenal]

Disarming Hamas is not genocide but rather is a service to those oppressed Gazan "refugees." For one such as you that clearly is of no concern.

Oh, I get the picture now. The whole thrust of all this is to end up with a world not based upon truth, reason, commonsense, and compromise, but based upon disarming citizens so Big Brother can rule with impunity. Disarming Hamas will set the precedent. If one group of citizens should be armed for the common good, then all citizens should be disarmed for the common good. Stalin, Hitler, Ida Amin, Pol Pot, etc. are all proud of you.

 

[citizenal]

As for the Jews being eliminated, a decent argument can be made for that. They are way more trouble than they are worth.

Unfortunately, having the same mentality has your hero (Hitler) you make the same mistake as him. Zionism, is a political movement, not a religious one. And although many Zionists are Jews by birth and name only, not all Zionists are bad people. For example, a majority of Jews born in Israel fall into this category. They were born in Israel and support Israel. As a result, they are both patriots and Zionists and to them these are one and the same thing. The problem is that the rich and powerful Zionists, who early on at the turn of the century, were considerd extremist by mainstream Judaism, succeed in not only establishing the state of Israel but also hijacking Judaism and twisting to assist their political agenda. What a glorious boon to them, they were now positioned to pursue their nefarious goals while holding before them the shield of Judaism. Now the situation was such that anyone who opposed their evil designs would be shouted down as a bigot and anti-Semite.

You my friend may be just a miss-guided fool or there is a very real possibility that your extreme anti-Semitism is intended to muddy the waters so nothing good can come out of this or any other discussion. In any case, of this I am sure, you playing right into the hands of the people you profess to hate and by doing so are one of their greatest assets. This is why I wouldn’t trust you as far as I could throw you.

Don’t believe what I have written, then watch the following video.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awCOSRg-gks]Jews Against Zionism And Rothschilds - YouTube[/ame]

 

[PaintMyHouse]

As for the Jews being eliminated, a decent argument can be made for that. They are way more trouble than they are worth.

Unfortunately, having the same mentality has your hero (Hitler) you make the same mistake as him. Zionism, is a political movement, not a religious one. And although many Zionists are Jews by birth and name only, not all Zionists are bad people. For example, a majority of Jews born in Israel fall into this category. They were born in Israel and support Israel. As a result, they are both patriots and Zionists and to them these are one and the same thing. The problem is that the rich and powerful Zionists, who early on at the turn of the century, were considerd extremist by mainstream Judaism, succeed in not only establishing the state of Israel but also hijacking Judaism and twisting to assist their political agenda. What a glorious boon to them, they were now positioned to pursue their nefarious goals while holding before them the shield of Judaism. Now the situation was such that anyone who opposed their evil designs would be shouted down as a bigot and anti-Semite.

You my friend may be just a miss-guided fool or there is a very real possibility that your extreme anti-Semitism is intended to muddy the waters so nothing good can come out of this or any other discussion. In any case, of this I am sure, you playing right into the hands of the people you profess to hate and by doing so are one of their greatest assets. This is why I wouldn’t trust you as far as I could throw you.

Don’t believe what I have written, then watch the following video.

I am anti-Zionist, all decent people are, but the argument in this case had to do with genocide being rational, which it usually is, and for such a small population the Jews, largely because of Zionism and the State of Israel, create for the world a set of problems much larger than their contribution. It's a broad brush but that was the point.

Hitler is not my hero, but he wasn't insane either. And if you truly wanted to protect the Jews, which I once worried about but no longer, you would destroy Israel and scatter them across the world yet again. The Jews are by no means the only people you can make a genocide argument for but because of Zionism, I'd be happy to take Zionist Christians as well, it's a snap to do so. No Jews, no Zionism in any form that matters, and the Messiah will just have to do his own nation building. Clear now?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Actually, at this point I would side with anyone against a muslim for any reason.

How about siding against both Israel and Islam. They are both wrong and both equally a threat to Republican Democracy and the American way of life.

Ah, but in his white hat-black hat world, America and Israel are the good guys. The guys on the other side of the line are the bad guys. And he is unable to cross lines, turn 180 degrees, look across the line from the other direction. To him we are the do no wrong people, even when we do...

 

[Redfish]

Disarming Hamas is not genocide but rather is a service to those oppressed Gazan "refugees." For one such as you that clearly is of no concern.

Oh, I get the picture now. The whole thrust of all this is to end up with a world not based upon truth, reason, commonsense, and compromise, but based upon disarming citizens so Big Brother can rule with impunity. Disarming Hamas will set the precedent. If one group of citizens should be armed for the common good, then all citizens should be disarmed for the common good. Stalin, Hitler, Ida Amin, Pol Pot, etc. are all proud of you.

having arms to defend yourself is fine. Using them to terrorize you neighbors is not. Hamas is a terrorist organization, Hamas has been lobbing missiles into Israel for years. Hamas is the agressor, Israel is defending itself.

Are you a muslim?

 

[nodoginnafight]

Actually, at this point I would side with anyone against a muslim for any reason.

How about siding against both Israel and Islam. They are both wrong and both equally a threat to Republican Democracy and the American way of life.

I don't remember any Jews crashing airplanes into our buildings.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Actually, at this point I would side with anyone against a muslim for any reason.

How about siding against both Israel and Islam. They are both wrong and both equally a threat to Republican Democracy and the American way of life.

I don't remember any Jews crashing airplanes into our buildings.

Nope, but our support for Israel against all others was one of the factors. Read bin Laden, he wrote a letter to America, that you haven't read I bet?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6537.htm

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Disarming Hamas is not genocide but rather is a service to those oppressed Gazan "refugees." For one such as you that clearly is of no concern.

Oh, I get the picture now. The whole thrust of all this is to end up with a world not based upon truth, reason, commonsense, and compromise, but based upon disarming citizens so Big Brother can rule with impunity. Disarming Hamas will set the precedent. If one group of citizens should be armed for the common good, then all citizens should be disarmed for the common good. Stalin, Hitler, Ida Amin, Pol Pot, etc. are all proud of you.

having arms to defend yourself is fine. Using them to terrorize you neighbors is not. Hamas is a terrorist organization, Hamas has been lobbing missiles into Israel for years. Hamas is the agressor, Israel is defending itself.

Are you a muslim?

They are at war. The last time I checked that kind of shit happened eh?

 

[citizenal]

I am anti-Zionist, all decent people are, but the argument in this case had to do with genocide being rational, which it usually is, and for such a small population the Jews, largely because of Zionism and the State of Israel, create for the world a set of problems much larger than their contribution. It's a broad brush but that was the point.

Hitler is not my hero, but he wasn't insane either. And if you truly wanted to protect the Jews, which I once worried about but no longer, you would destroy Israel and scatter them across the world yet again. The Jews are by no means the only people you can make a genocide argument for but because of Zionism, I'd be happy to take Zionist Christians as well, it's a snap to do so. No Jews, no Zionism in any form that matters, and the Messiah will just have to do his own nation building. Clear now?

I am an anti-Zionist also because similar to Aryanism, it is a flawed ideology which like Fascism is a well-spring of evil.

From my perspective genocide is never rational because it denies due process and worse, kills the innocent along with the guilty. Most people are born into and ideology and grow up being told that it is the right way to live. If the ideology is bad, then those born into are innocent victims and our task as human beings and Christians to save and educate them; not eliminate them. The Zionist leadership has created the world’s problems and should be charged, arrested, tried, and punished according to the law. As for the Jews, they are victims of the Zionists even more so than they were victims of Adolph Hitler. Adolph Hitler wrongfully murdered Jews, the Zionists have wrongfully turned both Jews and Americans into murderers. What greater crime is there than this?

And by the way, I hold that Adolph Hitler was totally insane. Any man who murders so many defenseless and innocent people thinking he is improving the world is insane.

 

[nodoginnafight]

How about siding against both Israel and Islam. They are both wrong and both equally a threat to Republican Democracy and the American way of life.

I don't remember any Jews crashing airplanes into our buildings.

Nope, but our support for Israel against all others was one of the factors. Read bin Laden, he wrote a letter to America, that you haven't read I bet?

Full text: bin Laden's 'letter to America'

Oh, so that means we deserved it? A letter justifies that act of terrorism?

Bullshit.