Which President(s) Of The Last 50 Years Have Done The Most Damage To The Country ?

[Uncensored2008]

If anybody should be blamed for ignoring the Al Qaeda threat it should be Clinton. He was supremely ineffective, even after the East Africa bombings.

Ditto the requests to rebuild the levees in NO that partisan hack Peach keeps yammering about.

Assuming that the federal government is responsible for regional levees in the first place.

 

[Liability]

President Obama.

It's obvious. Apologize for success.

Undermine our defense/intel capabilities.

First credit downgrade in U.S. history.

MASSIVE increase in the ******* deficit and debt.

Any more of that assclown and we could go down for the count. He's as serious as a ******* heart attack. He's GOTTA go.

The 9/11, Iraq, and Katrina dead can be ignored by you also I see. One thing most cannot deny; Obama has NOT overseen thousands of US deaths due to his personal grudges.

On Katrina:

Between 2001 and 2005, the US Army Corps of Engineers requests $496 million to strengthen the 300-mile levee system protecting the low-elevation greater New Orleans area from the waters of the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain. The Bush administration responds to these requests by proposing a $166 million budget. Congress approves a $250 million budget. [REUTERS, 9/1/2005; LOS ANGELES TIMES, 9/4/2005]

9/11 ignored? No no. I assign full blame where it belongs. To al qaeda.

YOU seem to imagine that the President in Office at the time of their attack "must be" responsible for the attack. I reject that nonsense as the absurd proposition it clearly is.

And what ABOUT Katrina? A major massive natural disaster which the ******* local and STATE authorities FAILED miserably to address even when the storm was KNOWN to be about to hit. FEMA did screw the pooch, too. And you can blame Brownie and W. Have a blast. But I don't give that much weight since I continue to maintain that PRIMARY responsibility lies with the Mayor or New Orleans and the Governor of Louisiana.

Besides, I don't think it would make much sense to discuss things that happened BEFORE President Obama was in Office as my part of my grounds for assigning him the "worst" President slot.

Oh, by the way, your post is packed tight with illogic. I also reject your implicit claim that President Bush sent any of our fighting forces to their deaths for "personal grudges."

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The 9/11, Iraq, and Katrina dead can be ignored by you also I see. One thing most cannot deny; Obama has NOT overseen thousands of US deaths due to his personal grudges.

On Katrina:

Between 2001 and 2005, the US Army Corps of Engineers requests $496 million to strengthen the 300-mile levee system protecting the low-elevation greater New Orleans area from the waters of the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain. The Bush administration responds to these requests by proposing a $166 million budget. Congress approves a $250 million budget. [REUTERS, 9/1/2005; LOS ANGELES TIMES, 9/4/2005]

And again New Orleans took some of the money from the levees and used it else where stop lying.

And you need to face facts; the ACE project was underfunded by BUSH II.

If it was underfunded why did New Orleans use money for the levees on other projects?

 

[Peach]

How can you blame the 9/11 deaths on Bush II. Are you one of these conspiracy nuts?

No, but I remember Bush ignored al Qaeda both before AND after the attack. HIS concern was war in Iraq.

If anybody should be blamed for ignoring the Al Qaeda threat it should be Clinton. He was supremely ineffective, even after the East Africa bombings.

From the era:

The impact of Bush linking 9/11 and Iraq / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

Clinton WAS active due to the killing of Americans in East Africa, Bush to ignored warnings of an attack in the US.

Clinton Aides Plan to Tell Panel Of Warning Bush Team on Qaeda - New York Times

One official scheduled to testify, Richard A. Clarke, who was President Bill Clinton's counterterrorism coordinator, said in an interview that the warning about the Qaeda threat could not have been made more bluntly to the incoming Bush officials in intelligence briefings that he led.

''It was very explicit,'' Mr. Clarke said of the warning given to the Bush administration officials. ''Rice was briefed, and Hadley was briefed, and Zelikow sat in.'' Mr. Clarke served as Mr. Bush's counterterrorism chief in the early months of the administration, but after Sept. 11 was given a more limited portfolio as the president's cyberterrorism adviser.

The sworn testimony from the high-ranking Clinton administration officials -- including Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright, Defense Secretary William S. Cohen and Samuel R. Berger, Mr. Clinton's national security adviser -- is scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday.

They are expected to testify along with Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who will answer for the Bush administration, as well as George J. Tenet, director of central intelligence in both administrations.

While Clinton officials have offered similar accounts in the past, a new public review of how they warned Mr. Bush's aides about the need to deal quickly with the Qaeda threat could prove awkward to the White House, especially in the midst of a presidential campaign. But given the witnesses' prominence in the Clinton administration, supporters of Mr. Bush may see political motives in the testimony of some of them.

Bush ignored the threat; please cite ONE WORD he said about al Qaeda prior to 9/11/01.

 

[Artevelde]

And again New Orleans took some of the money from the levees and used it else where stop lying.

And you need to face facts; the ACE project was underfunded by BUSH II.

If it was underfunded why did New Orleans use money for the levees on other projects?

I guess the evil demon Bush surreptitiously hypnotized them and thus forced them to do that? Must be his fault, right?

 

[Artevelde]

No, but I remember Bush ignored al Qaeda both before AND after the attack. HIS concern was war in Iraq.

If anybody should be blamed for ignoring the Al Qaeda threat it should be Clinton. He was supremely ineffective, even after the East Africa bombings.

From the era:

The impact of Bush linking 9/11 and Iraq / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

Clinton WAS active due to the killing of Americans in East Africa, Bush to ignored warnings of an attack in the US.

Clinton Aides Plan to Tell Panel Of Warning Bush Team on Qaeda - New York Times

One official scheduled to testify, Richard A. Clarke, who was President Bill Clinton's counterterrorism coordinator, said in an interview that the warning about the Qaeda threat could not have been made more bluntly to the incoming Bush officials in intelligence briefings that he led.

''It was very explicit,'' Mr. Clarke said of the warning given to the Bush administration officials. ''Rice was briefed, and Hadley was briefed, and Zelikow sat in.'' Mr. Clarke served as Mr. Bush's counterterrorism chief in the early months of the administration, but after Sept. 11 was given a more limited portfolio as the president's cyberterrorism adviser.

The sworn testimony from the high-ranking Clinton administration officials -- including Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright, Defense Secretary William S. Cohen and Samuel R. Berger, Mr. Clinton's national security adviser -- is scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday.

They are expected to testify along with Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who will answer for the Bush administration, as well as George J. Tenet, director of central intelligence in both administrations.

While Clinton officials have offered similar accounts in the past, a new public review of how they warned Mr. Bush's aides about the need to deal quickly with the Qaeda threat could prove awkward to the White House, especially in the midst of a presidential campaign. But given the witnesses' prominence in the Clinton administration, supporters of Mr. Bush may see political motives in the testimony of some of them.

Bush ignored the threat; please cite ONE WORD he said about al Qaeda prior to 9/11/01.

9/11 was not planned on 9/10. It was planned during the Clinton presidency. Clarke in his testimony did everything to cover his own failures and those of the Clinton administration who failed repeatedly to take effective action against Al Qaeda.

 

[Liability]

No, but I remember Bush ignored al Qaeda both before AND after the attack. HIS concern was war in Iraq.

If anybody should be blamed for ignoring the Al Qaeda threat it should be Clinton. He was supremely ineffective, even after the East Africa bombings.

From the era:

The impact of Bush linking 9/11 and Iraq / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

Clinton WAS active due to the killing of Americans in East Africa, Bush to ignored warnings of an attack in the US.

Clinton Aides Plan to Tell Panel Of Warning Bush Team on Qaeda - New York Times

One official scheduled to testify, Richard A. Clarke, who was President Bill Clinton's counterterrorism coordinator, said in an interview that the warning about the Qaeda threat could not have been made more bluntly to the incoming Bush officials in intelligence briefings that he led.

''It was very explicit,'' Mr. Clarke said of the warning given to the Bush administration officials. ''Rice was briefed, and Hadley was briefed, and Zelikow sat in.'' Mr. Clarke served as Mr. Bush's counterterrorism chief in the early months of the administration, but after Sept. 11 was given a more limited portfolio as the president's cyberterrorism adviser.

The sworn testimony from the high-ranking Clinton administration officials -- including Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright, Defense Secretary William S. Cohen and Samuel R. Berger, Mr. Clinton's national security adviser -- is scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday.

They are expected to testify along with Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who will answer for the Bush administration, as well as George J. Tenet, director of central intelligence in both administrations.

While Clinton officials have offered similar accounts in the past, a new public review of how they warned Mr. Bush's aides about the need to deal quickly with the Qaeda threat could prove awkward to the White House, especially in the midst of a presidential campaign. But given the witnesses' prominence in the Clinton administration, supporters of Mr. Bush may see political motives in the testimony of some of them.

Bush ignored the threat; please cite ONE WORD he said about al Qaeda prior to 9/11/01.

Red herring. Not speaking about it is simply not the same as ignoring it.

 

[Peach]

If anybody should be blamed for ignoring the Al Qaeda threat it should be Clinton. He was supremely ineffective, even after the East Africa bombings.

From the era:

The impact of Bush linking 9/11 and Iraq / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

Clinton WAS active due to the killing of Americans in East Africa, Bush to ignored warnings of an attack in the US.

Clinton Aides Plan to Tell Panel Of Warning Bush Team on Qaeda - New York Times

One official scheduled to testify, Richard A. Clarke, who was President Bill Clinton's counterterrorism coordinator, said in an interview that the warning about the Qaeda threat could not have been made more bluntly to the incoming Bush officials in intelligence briefings that he led.

''It was very explicit,'' Mr. Clarke said of the warning given to the Bush administration officials. ''Rice was briefed, and Hadley was briefed, and Zelikow sat in.'' Mr. Clarke served as Mr. Bush's counterterrorism chief in the early months of the administration, but after Sept. 11 was given a more limited portfolio as the president's cyberterrorism adviser.

The sworn testimony from the high-ranking Clinton administration officials -- including Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright, Defense Secretary William S. Cohen and Samuel R. Berger, Mr. Clinton's national security adviser -- is scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday.

They are expected to testify along with Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who will answer for the Bush administration, as well as George J. Tenet, director of central intelligence in both administrations.

While Clinton officials have offered similar accounts in the past, a new public review of how they warned Mr. Bush's aides about the need to deal quickly with the Qaeda threat could prove awkward to the White House, especially in the midst of a presidential campaign. But given the witnesses' prominence in the Clinton administration, supporters of Mr. Bush may see political motives in the testimony of some of them.

Bush ignored the threat; please cite ONE WORD he said about al Qaeda prior to 9/11/01.

9/11 was not planned on 9/10. It was planned during the Clinton presidency. Clarke in his testimony did everything to cover his own failures and those of the Clinton administration who failed repeatedly to take effective action against Al Qaeda.

And Bush did WHAT for eight months? The Administration was briefed time & again. Bush did NOTHING:

Bush Was Warned bin Laden Wanted to Hijack Planes - NYTimes.com

 

[Liability]

From the era:

The impact of Bush linking 9/11 and Iraq / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

Clinton WAS active due to the killing of Americans in East Africa, Bush to ignored warnings of an attack in the US.

Clinton Aides Plan to Tell Panel Of Warning Bush Team on Qaeda - New York Times

One official scheduled to testify, Richard A. Clarke, who was President Bill Clinton's counterterrorism coordinator, said in an interview that the warning about the Qaeda threat could not have been made more bluntly to the incoming Bush officials in intelligence briefings that he led.

''It was very explicit,'' Mr. Clarke said of the warning given to the Bush administration officials. ''Rice was briefed, and Hadley was briefed, and Zelikow sat in.'' Mr. Clarke served as Mr. Bush's counterterrorism chief in the early months of the administration, but after Sept. 11 was given a more limited portfolio as the president's cyberterrorism adviser.

The sworn testimony from the high-ranking Clinton administration officials -- including Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright, Defense Secretary William S. Cohen and Samuel R. Berger, Mr. Clinton's national security adviser -- is scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday.

They are expected to testify along with Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who will answer for the Bush administration, as well as George J. Tenet, director of central intelligence in both administrations.

While Clinton officials have offered similar accounts in the past, a new public review of how they warned Mr. Bush's aides about the need to deal quickly with the Qaeda threat could prove awkward to the White House, especially in the midst of a presidential campaign. But given the witnesses' prominence in the Clinton administration, supporters of Mr. Bush may see political motives in the testimony of some of them.

Bush ignored the threat; please cite ONE WORD he said about al Qaeda prior to 9/11/01.

9/11 was not planned on 9/10. It was planned during the Clinton presidency. Clarke in his testimony did everything to cover his own failures and those of the Clinton administration who failed repeatedly to take effective action against Al Qaeda.

And Bush did WHAT for eight months? The Administration was briefed time & again. Bush did NOTHING:

Bush Was Warned bin Laden Wanted to Hijack Planes - NYTimes.com

Yeah! He had him in the gunsights and refused to give the order to take him out!

Oh wait. That was Bubba.

Nevermind.

The intel given to President Bush before the 9/11 attacks was that the scumbag bin Laden was looking into the prospects for doing some plane hijackings. And?

That means anybody should have known that the plan also involved using the jetliners as missiles on civilian targets?

Get real.

 

[Uncensored2008]

9/11 ignored? No no. I assign full blame where it belongs. To al qaeda.

Yes, but you're rational, whereas ThinkProgress, which does Peach's thinking for her, is not.

YOU seem to imagine that the President in Office at the time of their attack "must be" responsible for the attack. I reject that nonsense as the absurd proposition it clearly is.

But Bill Clinton said "bin Laden determined to attack." What more information could Bush need?

And what ABOUT Katrina? A major massive natural disaster which the ******* local and STATE authorities FAILED miserably to address even when the storm was KNOWN to be about to hit. FEMA did screw the pooch, too. And you can blame Brownie and W. Have a blast. But I don't give that much weight since I continue to maintain that PRIMARY responsibility lies with the Mayor or New Orleans and the Governor of Louisiana.

Bush should have been there personally, shielding the city from the winds and rain....

Besides, I don't think it would make much sense to discuss things that happened BEFORE President Obama was in Office as my part of my grounds for assigning him the "worst" President slot.

Oh, by the way, your post is packed tight with illogic. I also reject your implicit claim that President Bush sent any of our fighting forces to their deaths for "personal grudges."

In all fairness, if Peach had so much as a modicum of logic, she wouldn't be a leftist. It isn't fair to expect her to reason.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yeah! He had him in the gunsights and refused to give the order to take him out!

Oh wait. That was Bubba.

Nevermind.

The intel given to President Bush before the 9/11 attacks was that the scumbag bin Laden was looking into the prospects for doing some plane hijackings. And?

That means anybody should have known that the plan also involved using the jetliners as missiles on civilian targets?

Get real.

Also the Chutzpah of the NY Times;

They title their bullshit {BUSH WAS WARNED BIN LADEN WANTED TO HIJACK PLANES}

Then have the NERVE to write;

{In the past few days, government officials have acknowledged for the first time that an F.B.I. agent in Phoenix had urged the F.B.I. headquarters to investigate Middle Eastern men enrolled in American flight schools.}

Uh yeah, in ******* 1998! Under ******* BILL CLINTON

******* leftist sacks of lying shit.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

And you need to face facts; the ACE project was underfunded by BUSH II.

If it was underfunded why did New Orleans use money for the levees on other projects?

I guess the evil demon Bush surreptitiously hypnotized them and thus forced them to do that? Must be his fault, right?

When all else fails the left will continue to blame Bush.

 

[Oddball]

 

[Peach]

If anybody should be blamed for ignoring the Al Qaeda threat it should be Clinton. He was supremely ineffective, even after the East Africa bombings.

Ditto the requests to rebuild the levees in NO that partisan hack Peach keeps yammering about.

Assuming that the federal government is responsible for regional levees in the first place.

SELA was in the midst of a TWENTY YEAR project to maintain & repair the levees, Bush cut funds, whether Bush lovers like it or not.

 

[Synthaholic]

I notice the link I posted was still in the reply but the cut and paste was removed Here from that link


Can you see it now?

You disapproved you point, thank you. NOT STOLEN, allocated by CONGRESSIONAL REPS! Still the evidence shows Bush refused ACE requests for the maintenance & repair project.

Are you that stupid? The city of New Orleans used the money for levees on other projects? Do you undertand that?

hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to unrelated water projects

You mean like the way stimulus money that was supposed to finance job projects was used instead by Republican governors to pay off state debt?

And then turned around and said that the stimulus didn't create jobs and was a failure?

Like that?

 

[Peach]

If it was underfunded why did New Orleans use money for the levees on other projects?

I guess the evil demon Bush surreptitiously hypnotized them and thus forced them to do that? Must be his fault, right?

When all else fails the left will continue to blame Bush.

I voted for McCain, think Obama is mediocre, and thought George H. W. Bush was a decent President. Pretend all you want, Bush the Lesser was horrible.

 

[Lakhota]

Compared to what you inherited from President Clinton, yes it is.

 

[Peach]

If anybody should be blamed for ignoring the Al Qaeda threat it should be Clinton. He was supremely ineffective, even after the East Africa bombings.

From the era:

The impact of Bush linking 9/11 and Iraq / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

Clinton WAS active due to the killing of Americans in East Africa, Bush to ignored warnings of an attack in the US.

Clinton Aides Plan to Tell Panel Of Warning Bush Team on Qaeda - New York Times

One official scheduled to testify, Richard A. Clarke, who was President Bill Clinton's counterterrorism coordinator, said in an interview that the warning about the Qaeda threat could not have been made more bluntly to the incoming Bush officials in intelligence briefings that he led.

''It was very explicit,'' Mr. Clarke said of the warning given to the Bush administration officials. ''Rice was briefed, and Hadley was briefed, and Zelikow sat in.'' Mr. Clarke served as Mr. Bush's counterterrorism chief in the early months of the administration, but after Sept. 11 was given a more limited portfolio as the president's cyberterrorism adviser.

The sworn testimony from the high-ranking Clinton administration officials -- including Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright, Defense Secretary William S. Cohen and Samuel R. Berger, Mr. Clinton's national security adviser -- is scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday.

They are expected to testify along with Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who will answer for the Bush administration, as well as George J. Tenet, director of central intelligence in both administrations.

While Clinton officials have offered similar accounts in the past, a new public review of how they warned Mr. Bush's aides about the need to deal quickly with the Qaeda threat could prove awkward to the White House, especially in the midst of a presidential campaign. But given the witnesses' prominence in the Clinton administration, supporters of Mr. Bush may see political motives in the testimony of some of them.

Bush ignored the threat; please cite ONE WORD he said about al Qaeda prior to 9/11/01.

Red herring. Not speaking about it is simply not the same as ignoring it.

Bush II did nothing.

President Bill Clinton retained Clarke and in 1998 promoted him to be the National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism, the chief counter-terrorism adviser on the National Security Council. Under President George W. Bush, Clarke initially continued in the same position, but the position was no longer given cabinet-level access.

Richard A. Clarke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I guess the evil demon Bush surreptitiously hypnotized them and thus forced them to do that? Must be his fault, right?

When all else fails the left will continue to blame Bush.

I voted for McCain, think Obama is mediocre, and thought George H. W. Bush was a decent President. Pretend all you want, Bush the Lesser was horrible.

obama and Bush one in the same bush Sr no new taxes reach across the isles McCain
Mix them all together and you will not get a mediocre president.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You disapproved you point, thank you. NOT STOLEN, allocated by CONGRESSIONAL REPS! Still the evidence shows Bush refused ACE requests for the maintenance & repair project.

Are you that stupid? The city of New Orleans used the money for levees on other projects? Do you undertand that?

hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to unrelated water projects

You mean like the way stimulus money that was supposed to finance job projects was used instead by Republican governors to pay off state debt?

And then turned around and said that the stimulus didn't create jobs and was a failure?

Like that?

And here will have little cyndie with some sort of deflection going on. What I don't know.

This is about New Orleans taking money that was meant for the levees and using it else where, and blaming Bush for not doing enough.