Which political party gets credit for more job creation?

[Faun]

To add perspective to this, healthmyths also said a bill that passed on July 21, 2010, DID NOT pass in July, 2010...

It didn't pass in July 2010... it passed on July 21, 2010.

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That one's a few McNuggets® shy of a Happy Meal®, if ya know what I mean.

 

[Rambunctious]

Dems recover from GOP messes and Republicans whine that they do it too slowly

Then why are people struggling so much?....

 

[healthmyths]

To add perspective to this, healthmyths also said a bill that passed on July 21, 2010, DID NOT pass in July, 2010...

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That one's a few McNuggets® shy of a Happy Meal®, if ya know what I mean.

So where is the proof that I wrote" the last 3 GOP presidents created 35.5 million jobs?" that you claim ??

 

[healthmyths]

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We both committed stupid comments... You saying GOP presidents created 200,000 and me sayin 35,508,000 I was wrong as you were wrong !

 

[Faun]

So where is the proof that I wrote" the last 3 GOP presidents created 35.5 million jobs?" that you claim ??

LOLOLOL

Holyfuckingshit, you are beyond deranged...

The 3 GOP created: 35,508,000

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[Faun]

We both committed stupid comments... You saying GOP presidents created 200,000 and me sayin 35,508,000 I was wrong as you were wrong !

Raving lunatic, Golfing Gator never said that.

 

[Lesh]

Then why are people struggling so much?....

Some people always struggle.

Most are doing pretty well

Jobs are plentiful and wages are up

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Then why are people struggling so much?....

Why are you struggling so much?

Perhaps you need to do something to better your situation.

 

[Rambunctious]

Why are you struggling so much?

Perhaps you need to do something to better your situation.

Look around you... all the closed up retail shops and people living in the streets... do you think that happens in a healthy economy?...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Look around you... all the closed up retail shops and people living in the streets... do you think that happens in a healthy economy?...

I do not see any of that around me, must just be you.

 

[healthmyths]

Biden is merely stating the inevitable

So when he "guarantees" something like "riding fossil fuels" the word means nothing? Especially from the President?
I would say there was some validity to his "guarantee" in that the oil companies found a PERFECT excuse for raising gas prices.
Hey the president wants to put them out of business. The oil companies better make the money now before that happens.
Now unlike YOU, I don't guess about statements like I made.
FACTS: LINKS: Substantiations!
The oil companies LOVED that statement as Chevron's CEO said...“You’re looking at committing capital 10 years out, that will need decades to offer a return for shareholders, in a policy environment where governments around the world are saying, ‘We don’t want these products.’”

 

[dblack]

If we go with full on socialism, government will create ALL the jobs!

 

[healthmyths]

If we go with full on socialism, government will create ALL the jobs!

So as an employee in socialism, would the person who makes decisions like building a new plant, or hiring 1,000 employees or the prices of goods/services get the same pay as me the janitor?

I just found this very detailed discussion of "socialism" that answers some of my questions...
Wages are one of the most important economic instruments through which each worker in socialist society is given a personal material interest in the results of his work: he who works more and better also receives more. Consequently, wages are a powerful factor in the growth of labour productivity, enabling the personal material interests of the worker to be correctly combined with State (national) interests.

Political Economy

So the answer is NO the decision maker will make more!
So what's the difference then between socialism and capitalism?
A janitor in socialism is paid what he contributes... as does the CEO of a capitalist business.

 

[rightwinger]

If we go with full on socialism, government will create ALL the jobs!

Nobody wants that
But Government does something’s better than the private sector

 

[healthmyths]

Nobody wants that
But Government does something’s better than the private sector

What does the government do better? The military?
The average mercenary salary in the USA is $75,000 per year or $36.06 per hour
In 2008 the number of contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan surpassed 200,000.

How many contractors? Soldiers to Private Military Contractors ratio in American Wars

Source: The Economist The fact that the US used private military and security contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as other places, should not be news to any of my readers. Multiple media sources covered the Nisour Square massacre involving Blackwater in 2007 or other reports on the...

www.oriswed.com

100,000 troops in Afghanistan and more than 160,000 troops in Iraq

Defense Official Says U.S. Remains Committed to Middle East

With more than 30,000 troops in the Middle East at multiple locations, the United States' commitment to the Middle East hasn't changed, the deputy assistant secretary of defense for the Middle East

www.defense.gov

So if the government's military does somethings better, why were there 1:1 ratio of mercenaries to government military personnel?
Just curious as to how that works better?
Have any other areas the "government" works better?

 

[dblack]

Nobody wants that

I don't believe you.

But Government does something’s better than the private sector

That doesn't matter. Slavery is a better way to grow cotton. But it's wrong and a violating of individual rights - so we don't do it. Just because something can be done "better" (in your view) by government, doesn't mean it should be done by government. We have a Constitutional limits on government to keep people like you from using it to get what they want from others.

Government already has too much power, which is why our democracy is disintegrating. You (always) want to give it more.

 

[rightwinger]

What does the government do better? The military?
The average mercenary salary in the USA is $75,000 per year or $36.06 per hour
In 2008 the number of contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan surpassed 200,000.

How many contractors? Soldiers to Private Military Contractors ratio in American Wars

Source: The Economist The fact that the US used private military and security contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as other places, should not be news to any of my readers. Multiple media sources covered the Nisour Square massacre involving Blackwater in 2007 or other reports on the...

www.oriswed.com

100,000 troops in Afghanistan and more than 160,000 troops in Iraq

Defense Official Says U.S. Remains Committed to Middle East

With more than 30,000 troops in the Middle East at multiple locations, the United States' commitment to the Middle East hasn't changed, the deputy assistant secretary of defense for the Middle East

www.defense.gov

So if the government's military does somethings better, why were there 1:1 ratio of mercenaries to government military personnel?
Just curious as to how that works better?
Have any other areas the "government" works better?

Yes, we have the best military in the history of mankind

What does the Government do better than the private sector?
Infrastructure
Healthcare
Education
Environmental Protection
Space

 

[dblack]

Yes, we have the best military in the history of mankind

What does the Government do better than the private sector?
Infrastructure

Sometimes. Locally.

Healthcare

Nope. It justs centralizes control of health care.

Education

Nope. It just centralizes control of education. Which, let's be honest, is what you're really after.

Environmental Protection

Yep

Space

Nope.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't believe you.

That doesn't matter. Slavery is a better way to grow cotton. But it's wrong and a violating of individual rights - so we don't do it. Just because something can be done "better" (in your view) by government, doesn't mean it should be done by government. We have a Constitutional limits on government to keep people like you from using it to get what they want from others.

Government already has too much power, which is why our democracy is disintegrating. You (always) want to give it more.

If the private sector is better at doing something…by all means let them do it
If the Government is better at doing something, let’s have them do it

 

[dblack]

If the private sector is better at doing something…by all means let them do it

That's not the way it works. The private sector does everything in society except for the very few things that we assign to government.

If the Government is better at doing something, let’s have them do i

That's not the rubrick. In part because "better" is entirely subjective.

We use government to force conformity. That should only be done when it's truly necessary. Not just as a matter of convenience. Not just because you think its "better".