Which party has been more destructive to the middle-class? Democrats or Republicans?

[Nostra]

Exactly

Republicans have long wanted “the issue” of immigration for political purposes

They have never wanted to fix it

Trump is no different

So why is your Cult shitting themselves over his deportations, Simp?

 

[Lesh]

So why is your Cult shitting themselves over his deportations, Simp?

You question has no bearing on what I said

Trump’s deportations are not about fixing the immigration problem nor are they designed to

 

[Lesh]

Fixing it is simple. Legal immigration not border jumpers

If it were simple it would be done

It’s not

 

[TNHarley]

If it were simple it would be done

It’s not

It is simple. Its not done because congress love their special interests too much.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

If it were simple it would be done

It’s not

It's been tried. You loons bawled about it. Remember?

 

[Independent thinker]

I think the 2024 general election already answered your question.

Hopefully it will stay that way. I can personally see why some would be all in on socialism. But, those people should realize that we had a huge border problem because millions were trying to escape socialism. Many on the left mistakenly believe that they control socialism by making it "democratic" socialism. If you don't like it you can just vote it out. Millions of illegals already found out the hard way that that doesn't work. Socialism is socialism. Once installed, you can't vote it back out.

 

[Lesh]

It's been tried. You loons bawled about it. Remember?

What was tried exactly?

 

[Independent thinker]

Reagan destroyed the middle class and the American Dream

Then why did LBJ want to end poverty if things were already so peachy keen?

 

[Independent thinker]

OMG are you still harping on illegals? First of all, Republicans were the ones who let them in on Bush's watch

"Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003

And lots of illegals or undocumented workers work for Republican farms, restaurants and HOTELS.

2nd, Trump mishandled the Covid pandemic and look what happened. Inflation you blame on Joe Biden.

Trump 2.0 tariffs us all like a king and starts wars that he and his boys profit off of and you pay higher gas prices.

GAWD you're a stupid stupid man.

Oh please. It is YOUR SIDE who is resisting Trump wanting to deport illegals. You want them here.

 

[Winston]

Then why did LBJ want to end poverty if things were already so peachy keen?

And that has what to do with the middle class?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Then why did LBJ want to end poverty if things were already so peachy keen?

LBJ's great society turned out to be a hot mess

 

[Independent thinker]

You question has no bearing on what I said

Trump’s deportations are not about fixing the immigration problem nor are they designed to

Translation: I'm going to deflect.

 

[Papageorgio]

Hard to say which one is worse. They both seem to hate the middle class' guts.
Immigration wise, reagan and bush created many incentives for them to come. But that would actually require you to think.

I look at who the Democrats and Republicans get funded by, it is the rich amd when Democrats and Republicans work for the rich, the laws they pass are for the rich.

It is really that simple but neither Democrat or Republican voters seem to realize it.

 

[Independent thinker]

And that has what to do with the middle class?

When you answer a question with a question it is because you got nuttin.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Reagan destroyed the middle class and the American Dream

I don’t recall Reagan treating small businesses like big corporations when it comes to regulations and compliance. I don’t recall Reagan treating middle class incomes as part of “taxing the wealthy and having them pay their fair share.” I don’t recall Reagan leaning towards Socialism which by design does not permit a Middle Class.

 

[TNHarley]

Oh please. It is YOUR SIDE who is resisting Trump wanting to deport illegals. You want them here.

There are things they could do, and we wouldnt have to spend all these billions deporting people. But they dont want to do that. Like mandatory e-verify. Even the states that have it exclude things like small companies, companies that use seasonal workers, independent contractors etc. Know what they all have in common? They employee illegals.

 

[TNHarley]

I look at who the Democrats and Republicans get funded by, it is the rich amd when Democrats and Republicans work for the rich, the laws they pass are for the rich.

It is really that simple but neither Democrat or Republican voters seem to realize it.

I think most do, they just dont care if its "their side"

 

[Chuz Life]

Does undermining the family structure count as an attack on the Middle Class?

 

[citygator]

Let's ask ChatGPT?

What the last 20 years show

1. Policy vs perception diverge​

• Democrats: More policies explicitly targeted at workers
• Republicans: Often stronger appeal to working-class identity and values

2. Economic outcomes vs attribution​

• Economic metrics favor Democratic administrations overall
• Outcomes during Republican administrations result in recessions and lower economic output

3. Working-class voters are split​

• The working class is not politically unified
• Different groups prioritize different things:
  • Wages/benefits/outcomes → often Democratic strength
  • Culture/identity politics→ often Republican strength

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Let's ask ChatGPT?

What the last 20 years show

1. Policy vs perception diverge​

• Democrats: More policies explicitly targeted at workers
• Republicans: Often stronger appeal to working-class identity and values

2. Economic outcomes vs attribution​

• Economic metrics favor Democratic administrations overall
• Outcomes during Republican administrations result in recessions and lower economic output

3. Working-class voters are split​

• The working class is not politically unified
• Different groups prioritize different things:
  • Wages/benefits/outcomes → often Democratic strength
  • Culture/identity politics→ often Republican strength

Try original thought