Zone1 Which is worse to America: the spread of socialism or of Islam?

[Lisa558]

Socialism is self-destructing. It cannot survive, and cannot in many cases even be implemented. Sure, it SOUNDS good to the people on the receiving end - what poor person already getting food stamps and free medical care wouldn't ALSO like free bus rides, such as Mandami promised? - but it ultimately dies due to its failure as an economic system,

Far more dangerous is the spread of Islam, especially to Jews but eventually to all non-Muslims. With Arab money buying off liberal universities, there are now nearly 1 million Muslim students spreading their hate for Jews. They are tearing down Jewish Heritage posters on campus, setting up No Jew Zones, chanting their support for killing Jews, and actually gunning them down at museums for the “crime” of being Jewish.

(And, social media such as this one being an example, they are positioning themselves as Christians to spread lies about Jews.)

If I had a choice between living under socialism or radical Islam, I would choose the former. The latter is the precursor to another Nazi-level Holocaust of Jews.

Victor Davis Hanson: What I Fear Worse Than Socialist Democratic Government

The two greatest cities in Western civilization, New York and London, are now headed by overt Islamicists, says Victor Davis Hanson.

www.dailysignal.com

 

[pknopp]

Hanson believes the west should run the world which I fail to see as any different than the complaint.

 

[The Irish Ram]

It boils down to would you rather be shot or decapitated. Both will kill us if we let it.

 

[JGalt]

Socialism is self-destructing. It cannot survive, and cannot in many cases even be implemented. Sure, it SOUNDS good to the people on the receiving end - what poor person already getting food stamps and free medical care wouldn't ALSO like free bus rides, such as Mandami promised? - but it ultimately dies due to its failure as an economic system,

Far more dangerous is the spread of Islam, especially to Jews but eventually to all non-Muslims. With Arab money buying off liberal universities, there are now nearly 1 million Muslim students spreading their hate for Jews. They are tearing down Jewish Heritage posters on campus, setting up No Jew Zones, chanting their support for killing Jews, and actually gunning them down at museums for the “crime” of being Jewish.

(And, social media such as this one being an example, they are positioning themselves as Christians to spread lies about Jews.)

If I had a choice between living under socialism or radical Islam, I would choose the former. The latter is the precursor to another Nazi-level Holocaust of Jews.

Victor Davis Hanson: What I Fear Worse Than Socialist Democratic Government

The two greatest cities in Western civilization, New York and London, are now headed by overt Islamicists, says Victor Davis Hanson.

www.dailysignal.com

Islam and Socialism are both archaic death cults, one disguised as a "religion", the other impersonating an "economic system." There is no room for either in the modern, civilized, Western world, and both should be viewed with same amount of distrust.

 

[Invisibleflash]

Hanson believes the west should run the world which I fail to see as any different than the complaint.

He is a Jew shill of the 'nothing to see in Gaza' variety. That turned me off to him. Dem or rep...just more party line lies.

I think Islam is worse. But dems are almost Islam. They force their beliefs on you.

Look, orange Jesus or not...America is OVER!

 

[JoeB131]

Socialism is self-destructing. It cannot survive, and cannot in many cases even be implemented. Sure, it SOUNDS good to the people on the receiving end - what poor person already getting food stamps and free medical care wouldn't ALSO like free bus rides, such as Mandami promised? - but it ultimately dies due to its failure as an economic system,

Far more dangerous is the spread of Islam, especially to Jews but eventually to all non-Muslims. With Arab money buying off liberal universities, there are now nearly 1 million Muslim students spreading their hate for Jews. They are tearing down Jewish Heritage posters on campus, setting up No Jew Zones, chanting their support for killing Jews, and actually gunning them down at museums for the “crime” of being Jewish.

(And, social media such as this one being an example, they are positioning themselves as Christians to spread lies about Jews.)

If I had a choice between living under socialism or radical Islam, I would choose the former. The latter is the precursor to another Nazi-level Holocaust of Jews.

Victor Davis Hanson: What I Fear Worse Than Socialist Democratic Government

The two greatest cities in Western civilization, New York and London, are now headed by overt Islamicists, says Victor Davis Hanson.

www.dailysignal.com

You didn't have a problem with the Muslims until you stole their land.

I would actually agree with you, the rise of the popularity of socialism is kind of concerning... if capitalism hadn't turned out to be such a raw deal.

Why are these kids becoming socialists? Because they look at their parents, working their whole lives at menial jobs, no job stability, sometimes having to take a second job so the kids will have a nice Christmas.

 

[Crepitus]

Socialism is self-destructing. It cannot survive, and cannot in many cases even be implemented. Sure, it SOUNDS good to the people on the receiving end - what poor person already getting food stamps and free medical care wouldn't ALSO like free bus rides, such as Mandami promised? - but it ultimately dies due to its failure as an economic system,

Far more dangerous is the spread of Islam, especially to Jews but eventually to all non-Muslims. With Arab money buying off liberal universities, there are now nearly 1 million Muslim students spreading their hate for Jews. They are tearing down Jewish Heritage posters on campus, setting up No Jew Zones, chanting their support for killing Jews, and actually gunning them down at museums for the “crime” of being Jewish.

(And, social media such as this one being an example, they are positioning themselves as Christians to spread lies about Jews.)

If I had a choice between living under socialism or radical Islam, I would choose the former. The latter is the precursor to another Nazi-level Holocaust of Jews.

Victor Davis Hanson: What I Fear Worse Than Socialist Democratic Government

The two greatest cities in Western civilization, New York and London, are now headed by overt Islamicists, says Victor Davis Hanson.

www.dailysignal.com

It's the galloping fascism that I see as a problem.

 

[Lisa558]

It's the galloping fascism that I see as a problem.

1) what facism? We have no fascism, or a threat of it.
2) you didn’t answer the question of the debate: socialism of Islam?

 

[JGalt]

It's the galloping fascism that I see as a problem.

And yet you're too blind to see socialism and Islam for what they really are: "Galloping fascism."

 

[Lisa558]

Hanson believes the west should run the world which I fail to see as any different than the complaint.

You also can’t answer the question.

You also made a ridiculous comment. The only ones seeking to run the world are the radical Islamists.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

The two are joined at the hip. Authoritarian leftists view Islam as a protected class and facilitate its spread.


They feed the crocodile hoping it will eat them last.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

And yet you're too blind to see socialism and Islam for what they really are: "Galloping fascism."

Those who are uneducated use the term "fascism" to describe anything that isn't Marxist because those they serve tell them to, all the while supporting a greater erosion of civil liberties than is represented by their imaginary bogeyman.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Islam and Socialism are both archaic death cults, one disguised as a "religion", the other impersonating an "economic system." There is no room for either in the modern, civilized, Western world, and both should be viewed with same amount of distrust.

The problem is, both socialism and Islam reject the western world and western civilization. Some universities have already stopped teaching western civilization.

 

[Lisa558]

The two are joined at the hip. Authoritarian leftists view Islam as a protected class and facilitate its spread.


They feed the crocodile hoping it will eat them last.

Good point. The Left is welcoming in the Islamists.

As far as the crocodile, they’re like the Jewish Kapos in Nazi Germany. They thought maybe they’d be spared since they sided with the enemy of the Jews. They learned the hard way that they thought wrong.

 

[Lisa558]

The problem is, both socialism and Islam reject the western world and western civilization. Some universities have already stopped teaching western civilization.

That’s the issue in a nutshell. The Left is rejecting western civilization in favor of inferior - yes, I said it….inferior…civilizations, and their values, such as socialist and Islamist ones.

Just take a look at PKnopp’s response. He ignores Hanson’s remarks about how the Islamists - and their indoctrinated students - are killing Jews outside museums, setting up No Jew Zones, and chanting “Death to Jews!!” and instead focuses on complaining that Hanson wants to inflict western values on the world.

IOW, he thinks a culture that wants to murder Jews is superior to western culture, that does not.

 

[Lisa558]

pknopp thinks it’s “funny” that Islamists and their indoctrinated fools are groomed to want to kill Jews - and are spreading it here in America - and concerned that,,,,OMG….western values might catch on in inferior cultures.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Hanson believes the west should run the world which I fail to see as any different than the complaint.

You fail to see any distinction between Islamism and Western Liberalism because you lack the ability to understand concepts.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

pknopp thinks it’s “funny” that Islamists and their indoctrinated fools are groomed to want to kill Jews - and are spreading it here in America - and concerned that,,,,OMG….western values might catch on in inferior cultures.

He mocks what he is incapable of understanding.

 

[Lisa558]

He mocks what he is incapable of understanding.

There’s a lot of that going around. I notice that when I’m arguing with a leftist, their retort is usually some ridiculous sarcastic comment.

 

[Lisa558]

You fail to see any distinction between Islamism and Western Liberalism because you lack the ability to understand concepts.

He fails to see the difference between a culture that is advocating for the murder of Jews, with full intent to eventually carry it out, and a culture that think Jews are entitled to live.