Zone1 Where was the ark built?

[Stryder50]

Quite few mysteries in the Bible.

Old testament mostly.
Largely due to the translations and inadequacy of available language and science understanding.

 

[MostBoringManInTheWorld]

Jesus and Peter mention it as a real event.

And Peter, Paul, and Mary puffed the magic dragon.

 

[MostBoringManInTheWorld]

God calls the simple-minded to confound the brainiacs. We know why you don't believe in the supernatural, but you don't know why we do. So, who's the fool?

The fool or the fool who follows him?

 

[MostBoringManInTheWorld]

 

[Stryder50]

Don't recall the city name at the moment, will have to look it up later, but in today's SouthEastern Iraq, near the current Persian Gulf. A bit inland from the coast line since silt deposits of the last few millennia have filled in the delta.

So here's this;
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In the WB-62 Sumerian king list recension, Ziusudra, or Zin-Suddu of Shuruppak, is listed as son of the last king of Sumer before a great flood. He is recorded as having reigned as both king and gudug priest for ten sars (periods of 3,600 years), although this figure is probably a copyist error for ten years. In this version, Ziusudra inherited rulership from his father Ubara-Tutu,

The lines following the mention of Ziusudra read:

Then the flood swept over. After the flood had swept over, and the kingship had descended from heaven, the kingship was in Kish.

The city of Kish flourished in the Early Dynastic period soon after a river flood archaeologically attested by sedimentary strata at Shuruppak (modern Tell Fara), Uruk, Kish, and other sites, all of which have been radiocarbon dated to ca. 2900 BC. Polychrome pottery from the Jemdet Nasr period (ca. 30th century BC), which immediately preceded the Early Dynastic I period, was discovered directly below the Shuruppak flood stratum. Max Mallowan wrote that "we know from the Weld Blundell prism [i.e. WB-62] that at the time of the Flood, Ziusudra, the Sumerian Noah, was King of the city of Shuruppak where he received warning of the impending disaster. His role as a saviour agrees with that assigned to his counterpart Utnapishtim in the Gilgamesh Epic. ... both epigraphical and archaeological discovery give good grounds for believing that Ziusudra was a prehistoric ruler of a well-known historic city the site of which has been identified."

That Ziusudra was a king from Shuruppak is supported by the Gilgamesh XI tablet, which makes reference to Utnapishtim (the Akkadian translation of the Sumerian name Ziusudra) with the epithet "man of Shuruppak" at line 23.
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Ziusudra - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You can find Shuruppak on this map;

 

[Stryder50]

Got them from the Sumerians, who got them from the Anunnaki.

More correctly from the Babylonians who were culture descended from Sumer, and where some of the Jews were enslaved(visitor-residents ?) at one time.

 

[Quantrill]

What I can’t figure out is Noah built that Ark to save all those critters.

In the WHOLE WORLD, nobody else had a boat that could survive?

No doubt many had something that floated that they would cling to. It just wouldn't matter. The tumult of the sea was so great that nothing would survive. Even today the sea can take down modern vessels in great storms. And Noah's flood was sent by God to destroy everything.

Even the Ark would not have survived without God's hand upon it. For it was God who shut the door. (Gen. 7:16)

Quantrill

 

[Woodznutz]

That 'ancient riverbed' takes us only as far back as the Flood of Noah. We are told that the Flood involved a terrible geographical disruption on the ocean floor. (Gen. 7:11) "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up..." And apparently this breakup continued for 150 days. (Gen. 7:24) "And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days."

(Gen. 8:1-2) And God remembered Noah...the water asswaged; The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped..."

(Gen. 8:3) "And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated."

I believe this drainage of this amount of water coupled with the already destruction of the breakup of the ocean floor, would have destroyed any resemblance of the ocean floor before the Flood.

Quantrill

The "fountains of the deep" and the "windows of heaven" seem to be poetic language. The 'windows of heaven' clearly mean rain, but it is unclear what the 'fountains of the deep' actually mean.

 

[Woodznutz]

Artist's renderings of the ark and the flood have done much to confuse our understanding of the event. These false pictures stick in our minds supplanting the Biblical narrative.

 

[Woodznutz]

The Anunnaki had a genetic bank off-planet, in orbit.
Also the whole planet wasn't covered in deep water. For one, there isn't that much water on Earth. For other, it was more a regional event in some parts of the world and might have been massive tsunami actions.

True. Only the "high hills" needed to be covered. No one lived in the high mountain regions. The Hebrew word for "mountains" and "hills" is the same. In their zeal to make the flood as large and horrible as possible the translators used "mountains" instead of "hills".

 

[Woodznutz]

Noah’s ark is the ideal children’s story with happy animals loading on the ark.

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Until they ask what happened to those who did not get on the ark……..Then it becomes a horror story

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Well, the Devil is in charge of the educational system. Has been from the beginning.

 

[Quantrill]

The "fountains of the deep" and the "windows of heaven" seem to be poetic language. The 'windows of heaven' clearly mean rain, but it is unclear what the 'fountains of the deep' actually mean.

Oh. Just like most others, everything is poetic or allegory when you don't want to believe it.

Quantrill

 

[Care4all]

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It's too big of a myth to not have some truth in it, imho.

 

[TNHarley]

It's too big of a myth to not have some truth in it, imho.

I am sure people had floods back then, yes.

 

[Care4all]

I am sure people had floods back then, yes.

I'm thinking the world's floods, extends from the earth's warm up, and ice age ending with all the melting.... resulting in the sea rise.

 

[Blaster]

I'm thinking the world's floods, extends from the earth's warm up, and ice age ending with all the melting.... resulting in the sea rise.

Are you an atheist?

 

[Care4all]

Are you an atheist?

No! But God does use spiritual allegory to explain or teach us spiritual lessons.

 

[Woodznutz]

Old testament mostly.
Largely due to the translations and inadequacy of available language and science understanding.

Most are spiritual mysteries only understandable through the Holy Spirit.

 

[Hafar1014]

God calls the simple-minded to confound the brainiacs. We know why you don't believe in the supernatural, but you don't know why we do. So, who's the fool?

I definitely believe in the afterlife I have experienced it and it isnt sectarian

 

[Hafar1014]

And where did he find two polar bears in the Middle East?

and penguins