Where is this mountain of evidence for evolution?

[Mr.Right]

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  I don't think I'm misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is randomness and accidental. That's all you guys leave us to conclude, since you don't allow God or some higher intelligence to be involved.

Actually, You are misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is "randomness and accidental". Secondly, I don't consider your silly conspiracy theories appropriate in this thread.

Why not make the case for one or more of the gawds involved in magical creation or lay out your best case for your space alien conspiracy.

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Your befuddled about the sciences supporting evolution because you understand none of it. Your silly "randomness and accidental" comment is classic befuddlement / coaching from creation ministries.

The "randomness and accidental" description suggests an attribute that doesn't apply to the natural world. Adaptation is non-random, as it is the result of objective criteria for fitness. Genetic variation might be random, but the natural selection that acts on that variation is not.

This is all theory. There is not one shred of evidence that it could even happen. If you knew anything about genetics, you would know that there is strong evidence that DNA cannot add new information to itself. Since this is required for evolution to occur, you can see the problem for evolutionists.

 

[bodecea]

Thats not true just listen to this atheist prophet and his disciples

Atheists don't have "prophets". You lose. Nor are we anyone's disciples. You lose again.

well I would disagree but if you prefer leading spokesperson for organized atheism and his students then fine regardless they claimed exactly what I said claim..so I win

I am one of the most vocal atheists on USMB and I have never heard of the guy in the video. I'm not even sure what you mean by "organized atheism"? There may be a handful of people that like to hear others re-enforce their anti-god viewpoints but seriously, the main point in being an atheist is that we are not in need of satisfying some kind of a "daddy complex". AKA god and religion. Me? I've never so much as visited a website having to do with atheism. It would be a waste of time...like religion.

You have never heard of Richard Hawkins ? just go to youtube and type atheist vs....and you will soon see he is in fact an atheist Icon
atheist vs - YouTube

Erm, that's Dawkins, not Hawkins.

 

[eots]

"Where is this mountain of evidence for evolution?"

It's everywhere, it's all around you – every plant and animal is proof of evolution; indeed, you are proof of evolution.

It's just that you're likely too blinded by religious dogma to see the truth.

I have no religious dogma but I see the theory of evolution to be at best an observation of adaption of species and absolutely not any kind proof of the origin of life or that the process was random chance

 

[bodecea]

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  I don't think I'm misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is randomness and accidental. That's all you guys leave us to conclude, since you don't allow God or some higher intelligence to be involved.

Actually, You are misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is "randomness and accidental". Secondly, I don't consider your silly conspiracy theories appropriate in this thread.

Why not make the case for one or more of the gawds involved in magical creation or lay out your best case for your space alien conspiracy.

View attachment 39585

Your befuddled about the sciences supporting evolution because you understand none of it. Your silly "randomness and accidental" comment is classic befuddlement / coaching from creation ministries.

The "randomness and accidental" description suggests an attribute that doesn't apply to the natural world. Adaptation is non-random, as it is the result of objective criteria for fitness. Genetic variation might be random, but the natural selection that acts on that variation is not.

This is all theory. There is not one shred of evidence that it could even happen. If you knew anything about genetics, you would know that there is strong evidence that DNA cannot add new information to itself. Since this is required for evolution to occur, you can see the problem for evolutionists.

The March of Dimes begs to differ.

 

[S.J.]

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  I don't think I'm misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is randomness and accidental. That's all you guys leave us to conclude, since you don't allow God or some higher intelligence to be involved.

Actually, You are misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is "randomness and accidental". Secondly, I don't consider your silly conspiracy theories appropriate in this thread.

Why not make the case for one or more of the gawds involved in magical creation or lay out your best case for your space alien conspiracy.

The thread topic is about evolution, not creationism.

Like so many threads populated with the slogans and cliches' that are staples of Christian fundamentalist ministries, this thread just oozes with the anti-science agenda of the ID'iot creation cabal.

So, about that mountain of evidence, do you have some?

 

[Hollie]

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  I don't think I'm misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is randomness and accidental. That's all you guys leave us to conclude, since you don't allow God or some higher intelligence to be involved.

Actually, You are misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is "randomness and accidental". Secondly, I don't consider your silly conspiracy theories appropriate in this thread.

Why not make the case for one or more of the gawds involved in magical creation or lay out your best case for your space alien conspiracy.

The thread topic is about evolution, not creationism.

Like so many threads populated with the slogans and cliches' that are staples of Christian fundamentalist ministries, this thread just oozes with the anti-science agenda of the ID'iot creation cabal.

So, about that mountain of evidence, do you have some?

Yes. If you begin with a 7th grade course in biology and proceed from there, you will be exposed to it.

 

[eots]

So are all you guys creationists? Young earth creationists?

Irrelevant. I asked for factual evidence for evolution. Got any?

Why can't you answer the simple question. Are you a young earth creationist?

If you are asking if I think bible creation stories are literal no I do not if you are asking could science have an inaccurate timeline, absolutely it could

 

[Hollie]

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  I don't think I'm misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is randomness and accidental. That's all you guys leave us to conclude, since you don't allow God or some higher intelligence to be involved.

Actually, You are misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is "randomness and accidental". Secondly, I don't consider your silly conspiracy theories appropriate in this thread.

Why not make the case for one or more of the gawds involved in magical creation or lay out your best case for your space alien conspiracy.

View attachment 39585

Your befuddled about the sciences supporting evolution because you understand none of it. Your silly "randomness and accidental" comment is classic befuddlement / coaching from creation ministries.

The "randomness and accidental" description suggests an attribute that doesn't apply to the natural world. Adaptation is non-random, as it is the result of objective criteria for fitness. Genetic variation might be random, but the natural selection that acts on that variation is not.

This is all theory. There is not one shred of evidence that it could even happen. If you knew anything about genetics, you would know that there is strong evidence that DNA cannot add new information to itself. Since this is required for evolution to occur, you can see the problem for evolutionists.

Actually, Darwin's Theory has withstood the rigors of the scientific method and peer review. So yes, it's provable and not in question among the relevant scientific community.

If you know otherwise, you may wish to email your work to the journal Nature for example.

If you are so certain that you have the data refuting "Darwinism", put you work before peer review and let's see how you do.

There does not exist a significant "anti-evolution" movement outside of Christian creationism. This is (and you must be honest with yourself here) the source of your own arguments, and therefore it is fair game, if only from a history of the philosophy perspective. It's painfully obvious that your arguments are in lockstep with those of the Institute for Creation Research, the Center for Scientific Creationism, or the Discovery Institute.

Further, were you not essentially arguing as a classic Creationist, I would expect you to actually have a scientific alternative to propose, which (of course) Creationists and their ID brethren do not. Creationism has always consisted primarily of arguments against evolution rather than argument in favor of a different theory of origins. This is also the manner in which you are arguing. If I am mistaken regarding your perspective here, it is not because you gave me any reason to see you as unique.

 

[eots]

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  I don't think I'm misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is randomness and accidental. That's all you guys leave us to conclude, since you don't allow God or some higher intelligence to be involved.

Actually, You are misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is "randomness and accidental". Secondly, I don't consider your silly conspiracy theories appropriate in this thread.

Why not make the case for one or more of the gawds involved in magical creation or lay out your best case for your space alien conspiracy.

The thread topic is about evolution, not creationism.

Like so many threads populated with the slogans and cliches' that are staples of Christian fundamentalist ministries, this thread just oozes with the anti-science agenda of the ID'iot creation cabal.

 

[Hollie]

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  I don't think I'm misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is randomness and accidental. That's all you guys leave us to conclude, since you don't allow God or some higher intelligence to be involved.

Actually, You are misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is "randomness and accidental". Secondly, I don't consider your silly conspiracy theories appropriate in this thread.

Why not make the case for one or more of the gawds involved in magical creation or lay out your best case for your space alien conspiracy.

The thread topic is about evolution, not creationism.

Like so many threads populated with the slogans and cliches' that are staples of Christian fundamentalist ministries, this thread just oozes with the anti-science agenda of the ID'iot creation cabal.

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There was no expectation that you could offer a relevant comment.

Stick with your silly conspiracy theories.

 

[eots]

Atheist Thomas Nagel branded a ‘heretic’ for daring to question Darwinism
The philosopher Thomas Nagel is not taking phone calls.

His secretary at New York University says there have been hundreds, all wanting to reach the modern “heretic,” as a current magazine cover labels him, but he is not taking the bait.

Handout"What has gotten into Thomas Nagel?"
All he did was argue in a new book the evolutionary view of nature is “false,” and now grand forces have descended upon him. He does not want to talk about it.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...agel-leading-atheist-branded-a-heretic-for-da

 

[eots]

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  I don't think I'm misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is randomness and accidental. That's all you guys leave us to conclude, since you don't allow God or some higher intelligence to be involved.

Actually, You are misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is "randomness and accidental". Secondly, I don't consider your silly conspiracy theories appropriate in this thread.

Why not make the case for one or more of the gawds involved in magical creation or lay out your best case for your space alien conspiracy.

The thread topic is about evolution, not creationism.

Like so many threads populated with the slogans and cliches' that are staples of Christian fundamentalist ministries, this thread just oozes with the anti-science agenda of the ID'iot creation cabal.

View attachment 39612

There was no expectation that you could offer a relevant comment.

Stick with your silly conspiracy theories.

wow you really are dependent on the strawman...
Darwinism offers a dogmatic system of thought that is intoxicating precisely because it offers the illusion of freeing us from religion.

 

[Hollie]

Atheist Thomas Nagel branded a ‘heretic’ for daring to question Darwinism
The philosopher Thomas Nagel is not taking phone calls.

His secretary at New York University says there have been hundreds, all wanting to reach the modern “heretic,” as a current magazine cover labels him, but he is not taking the bait.

Handout"What has gotten into Thomas Nagel?"
All he did was argue in a new book the evolutionary view of nature is “false,” and now grand forces have descended upon him. He does not want to talk about it.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...agel-leading-atheist-branded-a-heretic-for-da

You need some newer material for your conspiracy theories.

 

[Hollie]

Actually, You are misrepresenting Evolution by saying that it is "randomness and accidental". Secondly, I don't consider your silly conspiracy theories appropriate in this thread.

Why not make the case for one or more of the gawds involved in magical creation or lay out your best case for your space alien conspiracy.

The thread topic is about evolution, not creationism.

Like so many threads populated with the slogans and cliches' that are staples of Christian fundamentalist ministries, this thread just oozes with the anti-science agenda of the ID'iot creation cabal.

View attachment 39612

There was no expectation that you could offer a relevant comment.

Stick with your silly conspiracy theories.

wow you really are dependent on the strawman...
Darwinism offers a dogmatic system of thought that is intoxicating precisely because it offers the illusion of freeing us from religion.

Your conspiracy theories are getting more ridiculous.

"Darwinism" says nothing about gawds.

 

[rightwinger]

Evolution is a....Fact

God is a theory

 

[S.J.]

Evolution is a....Fact

God is a theory

A fact? Then show us the proof.

 

[Agit8r]

You've seen fossils right? And you've seen the Grand Canyon, so that it is obvious that the earth is very old? Yet other explanations for the earth creation don't even acknowledge these, presumably because the gods of such mythologies never knew about them.

 

[rightwinger]

Evolution is a....Fact

God is a theory

A fact? Then show us the proof.

The FACT that Evolution occurs is supported by biological, fossil, geologic and recently......DNA evidence

God is just a theory......A theory unsupported by scientific evidence

 

[Hollie]

Evolution is a....Fact

God is a theory

A fact? Then show us the proof.

You need to get out of the Jimmy Swaggert madrassah more often.

Evolution is a Fact and a Theory

 

[eots]

You've seen fossils right? And you've seen the Grand Canyon, so that it is obvious that the earth is very old? Yet other explanations for the earth creation don't even acknowledge these, presumably because the gods of such mythologies never knew about them.

this does not mean they could not be off on the predictions by billions of years