Zone1 Where did all these denominations come from?

[zaangalewa]

Yes however..... If you consider the fact that emperor Constantine was the first to assume the the title of Pontifex Maximus.... There is an argument to be made that the Roman branch of the church is the one with the deepest history. The first century Christians who were the immediate aftermath of Christ's preaching campaign didn't necessarily inhabit Rome at that point.

The title "Pontifex Maximus" is from the year (¿500?-) 300 BC and was used first from priests in Rome and later from the Roman emperors who forgot more and more this title. Pope Leo used it (440-461) but since Pope Gregor (590-604) is "pontifex maximus" also an inofficial title of the pope. Meaning: the Pope never should forget to try to be the "top bridge builder".

 

[BreezeWood]

@BreezeWood. Again: "liberation theology" is an extremely modern Catholic form of theology from South America. Still "hotly" disputed. (What is for Catholics "hotly" is for others a race between snails).

its been mentioned before, you are brain dead.

in no way is liberation theology - catholic - and just shows how corrupt some people will be to include themselves where they have no bearing whatsoever - zaang.

a modern referral ...

What is the belief of liberation theology?

This socially oriented understanding of faith – liberation theology – challenged the traditional alliance between the Church and political elites. It proclaimed that God stands with the poor and oppressed throughout history, working to liberate them from unjust economic and political situations.

the above is not disagreeable with what jesus taught however the 1st century events are based on jesus's perception that theology is a liberation of the spirit from evil as the means for admission to the everlasting - liberation theology.

and is not found in the false commandments of the liar moses or the apartheid religion, hereditary idolatry of abraham and is the basis for the crucifixion, jesus's refutiation of judaism.

 

[Leo Sails]

i agree

but here is a question

was Martian Luther nothing more than just rebellious and - an erratic rebel - " Rebel Catholic Priest " ?

or was he under the inspiration of the Spirit Holy ?

 

[OneIsTheWord]

I found this interesting.

Caveat emptor...I can't vouch for it's accuracy, because I'm learning myself.

All Religions came from Nimrod

The descendants of Ham were Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan.
The sons of Cush were Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabtechah; and the sons of Raamah were Sheba and Dedan.
Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one on the earth.
He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; therefore it is said, "Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord."
And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, Erech, Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.
From that land, he went to Assyria and built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir, Calah, and Resen between Nineveh and Calah (that is the principal city).
Mizraim begot Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim,
Pathrusim, and Casluhim (from whom came the Philistines and Caphtorim).
Canaan begot Sidon his firstborn, and Heth; the Jebusite, the Amorite, and the Girgashite;
the Hivite, the Arkite, and the Sinite; the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite. Afterward, the families of the Canaanites were dispersed.
And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon as you go toward Gerar, as far as Gaza; then as you go toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha.
These were the sons of Ham, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands, and in their nations.
And children were born also to Shem, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder.
The sons of Shem were Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.
The sons of Aram were Uz, Hul, Gether, and Mash.
Arphaxad begot Salah, and Salah begot Eber.
To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided, and his brother's name was Joktan. Joktan begot Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah,
Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah,
Obal, Abimael, Sheba,
Ophir, Havilah, and Jobab. All these were the sons of Joktan.
And their dwelling place was from Mesha as you go toward Sephar, the mountain of the east.
These were the sons of Shem, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands, according to their nations.
These were the families of the sons of Noah, according to their generations, in their nations; and from these, the nations were divided on the earth after the flood.
Gen 10:6-32 (NKJV)​

 

[Foxfyre]

I found this interesting.

Caveat emptor...I can't vouch for it's accuracy, because I'm learning myself.

The New Testament records schisms developing in the 1st Century Church and suggests competing doctrines between the early Christian leaders but these were fairly mild and not of much consequence.

By the 2nd Century, doctrines were being more clearly laid out and there were some serious disagreements with them.

Most Bible Scholars would say the Roman Catholic Church came into being in the early 3rd Century when Emperor Constantine gave the Church his blessings and protection.

But throughout the history of the Church there were schisms and those who stayed apart from the main body.

It was Martin Luther who, without intending to do so, provided the primary impetus for the formation of the Protestant movement that amidst the enlightenment of the Renaissance was ready for the Reformation.

Ever since then the Church has had people who break away to form what they intend to be a more pure/accurate/faithful Church than what they left. And when that fails to achieve perfection, some break away again to form another. What was a few separate Christian groups up to the 15th Century spread rapidly and now there are an estimated 40,000+++ Christian denominations in the world.

Not one is perfect. They all intended to be. But all who accept Jesus the Christ as the Son of God and Savior of the world are the Church.

 

[BreezeWood]

Not one is perfect. They all intended to be. But all who accept Jesus the Christ as the Son of God and Savior of the world are the Church.

then your church is not the reason for the 1st century events, the repudiation of false commandments of servitude - the apartheid religion, heredity idolatry of abraham that jesus and those others during that time gave their lives for their true beliefs.

as taught by jesus, self determination not servitude and denial - the original religion of antiquity the triumph over evil as the goal and means for each spirit to accomplish to be judged and granted admission to the everlasting.

 

[zaangalewa]

its been mentioned before, you are brain dead.

Sigh. Always this very "Christian" stupid "thoughts" from people who do not believe in god at all. Dear unfriend - I'm a master in using spearwords - not an Olympian but a champion in this discipline. But I'm much too tired than only to use spearwords. So if I am "brain dead" - what changes this in an important detail in the world all around you? Why do you speak with me at all?

in no way is liberation theology - catholic - and just shows how corrupt some people will be to include themselves where they have no bearing whatsoever - zaang.

Liberation theology or theology of liberation is a branch of Christian theology that emerged in Latin America. It sees itself as the “voice of the poor” and aims to contribute to their liberation from exploitation, disenfranchisement and oppression. Based on the situation of socially declassed sections of the population, it interprets biblical tradition as an impulse for comprehensive social criticism. The various forms of liberation theology in the respective countries refer to an independent analysis of political-economic dependency (dependency theory). With a commitment to living faith in this world, liberation theology works for a grassroots democratic and partly socialist social order.

This inevitably led to considerable conflict with the church hierarchy, especially in the Catholic Church, which often resulted in disciplinary measures against individual pastors. As a consequence of their convictions, the liberation theologians also openly opposed the oligarchic and dictatorial regimes that were widespread in South America, which cost the lives of numerous pastors. The best-known victim is Óscar Romero, the Archbishop of El Salvador, who was murdered in 1980. ... .

source: Befreiungstheologie – Wikipedia

a modern referral ...



the above is not disagreeable with what jesus taught however the 1st century events are based on jesus's perception that theology is a liberation of the spirit from evil as the means for admission to the everlasting - liberation theology.

and is not found in the false commandments of the liar moses or the apartheid religion, hereditary idolatry of abraham and is the basis for the crucifixion, jesus's refutiation of judaism.

You are an atheist, aren't you? First of all tell me: Do you believe in god?