When was war declared against Venezuela?

[Delldude]

Blowing up foreign nationals in international waters without any type of due process at all, is not piracy, it's state sponsored terrorism.

Since when are people who have been designated as terrorists entitled to due process?

The Taliban insurgents in Afghanistan were entitled to due process? Our snipers gave them due process on the receiving end of a 50 BMG.

The Nanny State's gone mad.

The nanny state is a term describing your favorite party's ideology.

The orders are likely illegal and they make us the terrorists

They're using existing laws based out of 911 and other attacks.

 

[BlindBoo]

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Smuggling poison to a bunch of people you know damn well will die from its use certainly is terrorism.




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More Americans die from pharmaceutical overdoses.

Nobody is forcing people to take recreational substances. Nobody is holding a gun to their heads and saying "Take this Pill or else!" Nobody is suicide bombing busses or trains trying to force an ideology of drug use on everybody! That's what terrorist do.

 

[Delldude]

That's what terrorist do.

Terrorists smuggle illicit drugs, weaponry and humans.....all for profit.

Terrorists have compromised democracy in Mexico and other SA countries..... that's what terrorists do.

Terrorists have a huge criminal enterprise here.

Nobody is forcing people to take these drugs but as responsible custodians for our own..... why make it readily available?

 

[BlindBoo]

Since when are people who have been designated as terrorists entitled to due process?

The Taliban insurgents in Afghanistan were entitled to due process? Our snipers gave them due process on the receiving end of a 50 BMG.


The nanny state is a term describing your favorite party's ideology.


They're using existing laws based out of 911 and other attacks.

Which cartel has declared a Holy Jihad against every American like al Qaeda and the other Islamic Radicals we've been fighting all these years have?

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.(a) IN GENERAL.—That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001,or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

Why would the cartels want to inflict a mass casualty event on their best customers? Smuggling drugs to willing customers is not international terrorism.

 

[struth]

More Americans die from pharmaceutical overdoses.

Nobody is forcing people to take recreational substances. Nobody is holding a gun to their heads and saying "Take this Pill or else!" Nobody is suicide bombing busses or trains trying to force an ideology of drug use on everybody! That's what terrorist do.

Terrorism defined:

Terrorism | Federal Bureau of Investigation

To counter terrorism, the FBI's top investigative priority, we use our investigative and intelligence capabilities to neutralize domestic extremists and help dismantle terrorist networks worldwide.

www.fbi.gov

International terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups who are inspired by, or associated with, designated foreign terrorist organizations or nations (state-sponsored)

 

[Delldude]

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.(a) IN GENERAL.

Scope: The executive branch has interpreted this AUMF to extend to numerous "associated forces" and operations in many countries, not just those directly tied to the 9/11 attacks.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Scope: The executive branch has interpreted this AUMF to extend to numerous "associated forces" and operations in many countries, not just those directly tied to the 9/11 attacks.

Why are we threatening Venezuela with bombers then? There is no Fentanyl coming from Venezuela. if this were the reason we would be bombing Peru (coca leaves grown) and Mexico (Fentanyl made) yes?

 

[BlindBoo]

Terrorists smuggle illicit drugs, weaponry and humans.....all for profit.

Terrorists have compromised democracy in Mexico and other SA countries..... that's what terrorists do.

Terrorists have a huge criminal enterprise here.

Nobody is forcing people to take these drugs but as responsible custodians for our own..... why make it readily available?

Terrorists use violence on civilians in soft targets to influence their politics and behavior.

Drug and weapons smugglers, reprehensible as some may be, do not generally try to terrorize the people they sell to. Neither one is a capital crime and certainly not a crime that deserves summary execution on the high seas.

 

[BlindBoo]

Scope: The executive branch has interpreted this AUMF to extend to numerous "associated forces" and operations in many countries, not just those directly tied to the 9/11 attacks.

What attacks on civilians have they been planning?

 

[struth]

Which cartel has declared a Holy Jihad against every American like al Qaeda and the other Islamic Radicals we've been fighting all these years have?

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.(a) IN GENERAL.—That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001,or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

Why would the cartels want to inflict a mass casualty event on their best customers? Smuggling drugs to willing customers is not international terrorism.

Are you that big of a bigot that you think only Islamic radicals can be terrorist? and why are you copying and pasting the lang from the Authorization for the Use of Force?

The President doesn't need that to take out terrorist attempting to enter our country with illegal drugs.

 

[Delldude]

Why are we threatening Venezuela with bombers then?

Regime change, stability in the southern hemisphere. See ' Monroe Doctrine'.

There is no Fentanyl coming from Venezuela

True. They grow and produce cocaine there.

if this were the reason we would be bombing Peru (coca leaves grown) and Mexico (Fentanyl made) yes?

There have been neg's with Mexico in an ongoing basis.

We have spec OPs people there now.

What attacks on civilians have they been planning?

 

[BlindBoo]

The President doesn't need that to take out terrorist attempting to enter our country with illegal drugs

Smuggling drugs is not a Capital Crime. Nor does it automatically make a drug smuggler a terrorist worthy of summary execution. But obviously you think your King has absolute power to create his own laws. The Neo GOP see's him as the investigator, prosecutor, judge, jury and the executioner.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Regime change, stability in the southern hemisphere. See ' Monroe Doctrine'.

Thats why you need a declaration of war.

When was the last time that worked out well for the US?

 

[Delldude]

Smuggling drugs is not a Capital Crime.

Terrorism is and illicit acts to make money to support those aims are.

But obviously you think your King has absolute power to create his own laws.

If Trump and the military aren't operating within the law, why hasn't the military refused to comply with the orders?

The Neo GOP see's him as the investigator, prosecutor, judge, jury and the executioner.

Cry me a fuckin' river.....

 

[Delldude]

Thats why you need a declaration of war.

Nope.

Congress has previously authorized these actions.

 

[BlindBoo]

Terrorism defined:

Terrorism | Federal Bureau of Investigation

To counter terrorism, the FBI's top investigative priority, we use our investigative and intelligence capabilities to neutralize domestic extremists and help dismantle terrorist networks worldwide.

www.fbi.gov

International terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups who are inspired by, or associated with, designated foreign terrorist organizations or nations (state-sponsored)

Nice link. No ties to smugglers but a nice summary.

A terrorist is someone who uses violence or the threat of violence to intimidate or coerce a government, civilian population, or organization to achieve political, social, or ideological goals. Key elements include the use of violence or its threat, the intent to create fear, and the goal of influencing a government, population, or other group to change its policies or behavior. While definitions can vary, they generally center on this intentional use of violence for a specific, often political or ideological, objective.

-AI

It might be terrorists smuggling to turn the profits into terrorist acts, but it might be the CIA too.

 

[struth]

Nice link. No ties to smugglers but a nice summary.

A terrorist is someone who uses violence or the threat of violence to intimidate or coerce a government, civilian population, or organization to achieve political, social, or ideological goals. Key elements include the use of violence or its threat, the intent to create fear, and the goal of influencing a government, population, or other group to change its policies or behavior. While definitions can vary, they generally center on this intentional use of violence for a specific, often political or ideological, objective.

-AI

It might be terrorists smuggling to turn the profits into terrorist acts, but it might be the CIA too.

Running drugs is violent.

 

[struth]

Smuggling drugs is not a Capital Crime. Nor does it automatically make a drug smuggler a terrorist worthy of summary execution. But obviously you think your King has absolute power to create his own laws. The Neo GOP see's him as the investigator, prosecutor, judge, jury and the executioner.

Nobody said it was, not once you are in the United States.

No, what makes a drug runner a terrorist is if they are in a terrorist organzation, or working with a terrorist organization

Technical Difficulties

 

[BlindBoo]

Terrorism is and illicit acts to make money to support those aims are.


If Trump and the military aren't operating within the law, why hasn't the military refused to comply with the orders?



Cry me a fuckin' river.....

it's a dangerous business they are in....Cest la Vie.

There is a flip side.

Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has been arrested by Philippine authorities on the basis of an arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court (ICC) against him for the crime against humanity of murder in relation to killings in the “war on drugs”

Benedict Donald can't pardon him but I bet MAGANUTS would like it.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Congress has previously authorized these actions.

Can you cite where Congress approves of regime change in Venezuela? This is a question not a criticism, as I cannot find it.