When trump's retribution tour begins, could someone tell me if....

[jc456]

Diplomats under treaty cannot be. Please cite some case law to support your argument.

are they illegally here/?

 

[struth]

Miss this part:

To be “completely subject” to the political jurisdiction of the United States is to be in no respect or degree subject to the political jurisdiction of any other government. . . .

If you are born here and well here, how are you subject to any other jurisdiction?

 

[struth]

Diplomats under treaty cannot be. Please cite some case law to support your argument.

Well yes absent a specific treaty granting immunity

 

[Delldude]

Y'all confused over 'legal jurisdiction' vs 'political jurisdiction'.

 

[otto105]

Y'all confused over 'legal jurisdiction' vs 'political jurisdiction'.

Where in the amendment can one find political jurisdiction?

 

[struth]

Y'all confused over 'legal jurisdiction' vs 'political jurisdiction'.

Do tell…

 

[Delldude]

If you are born here and well here, how are you subject to any other jurisdiction?

Where your parents came from.

This is going to be a hot topic very soon

 

[otto105]

Where your parents came from.

This is going to be a hot topic very soon

Where in the amendment do we find that?

 

[Delldude]

Where in the amendment can one find political jurisdiction?

It would be in the legal interpretation......and further more, it was in zinc warriors excellent source.

 

[struth]

Where your parents came from.

This is going to be a hot topic very soon

That determines political jusrisdiction? Wow


What if they came from two different countries and I was born here?

 

[otto105]

It would be in the legal interpretation......and further more, it was in zinc warriors excellent source.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

You should look into “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”.

 

[Delldude]

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Any person coming here from another country is a citizen of that country and that is where their allegiance lies.

From Zincwarriors source:

The Citizenship Clause establishes the principle of birthright citizenship, but there are exceptions to this general rule; the key language reads “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”; this means that the non-citizen must owe full allegiance to the United States and to no other country. “This section contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two sources only: birth and naturalization. The persons declared to be citizens are ‘all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.’ The evident meaning of these last words is not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance. And the words relate to the time of birth in the one case, as they do to the time of naturalization in the other. Persons thus subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of birth cannot become so afterwards, except by being naturalized, either individually, as by proceedings under the naturalization acts, or collectively, as by the force of a treaty by which foreign territory is acquired.”

To meet the requirements of the Citizenship Clause, the non-citizen must not even be partly subject to the political jurisdiction of another country. To be “completely subject” to the political jurisdiction of the United States is to be in no respect or degree subject to the political jurisdiction of any other government. . . .

 

[otto105]

You should look into “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”.

Hilarious

What do you want to falsely read into it.

It clearly states people born here are subject to our laws. As are all people in our country.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Where your parents came from.

This is going to be a hot topic very soon

No, its really not.

 

[otto105]

Where your parents came from.

This is going to be a hot topic very soon

No, its not.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Hilarious

What do you want to falsely read into it.

It clearly states people born here are subject to our laws. As are all people in our country.

You didn’t look into it. I didn’t expect you to.
Just go with your feels.

 

[Zincwarrior]

You didn’t look into it. I didn’t expect you to.
Just go with your feels.

Not feels: the Constitution and supporting case law. You have what now?

 

[otto105]

You didn’t look into it. I didn’t expect you to.
Just go with your feels.

I have posted the text of the amendment.

Can you read.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

I have posted the text of the amendment.

Can you read.

I can research.