When the Terror Comes Home?

[g5000]

"Have you seen any terrorist attacks since we started doing these things? Huh? Huh? Huh?"


Remember that argument?


Yeah.

 

[georgephillip]

If Iraq is lost, then containment might be the next best option.

Unless the plan all along had been to divide Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Iran into warring sub-states, carve a "Free Kurdistan" from the chaos, and use the Kurds' well deserved homeland as chief talking point in selling the New Middle East. If that is the plan, it was well understood the violence level in that part of the world would rise along with the profits of arms sales, oil sales, and the profits that come from the sales of illegal drugs, like heroin.

 

[B. Kidd]

If Iraq is lost, then containment might be the next best option.

Unless the plan all along had been to divide Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Iran into warring sub-states, carve a "Free Kurdistan" from the chaos, and use the Kurds' well deserved homeland as chief talking point in selling the New Middle East. If that is the plan, it was well understood the violence level in that part of the world would rise along with the profits of arms sales, oil sales, and the profits that come from the sales of illegal drugs, like heroin.

Currently, I truly believe we are flying by the seat of our pants as ME developments continue to unfold, waiting to see where the proxy-war lines fall, as the latter have not yet been determined.
This is the most dangerous time.

 

[georgephillip]

I've said many times that if we experience another 9/11 scale terrorist attack, there is already a shrink-wrapped Patriot Act II: This Time We REALLY Mean Business.

Out will come the flag pins again. Out will come the waterboards again. Out will come the "enhanced interrogation" again. And the New Right will forget all about that pesky Constitution again. Glenn Beck will start openly wearing an armband.

But wait, there's more.

Under PAII, meter maids will be allowed to shoot double parkers. After all, anyone who is blocking traffic is a domestic terrorist.

Did you just say the President is an asshole? Off to Camp Yankee in the Antarctic for you, bud.

Free speech zones? Yeah, we still have those. On the moon.

There might be one big difference between PAI and PAII.
Hundreds of thousands of soldiers, sailors, and Marines who've experienced the big lies in ways I can't imagine might begin connecting the dots between war and debt. I suppose it's also possible the internet will make it easier to organize resistance; however, the next "New Pearl Harbor" changes things in ways none of us can imagine at the moment. It is really hard for me to imagine how I would respond to car bombs or IEDs going off regularly on my block, and the worst part is believing it's a case of "when" NOT "if."

 

[georgephillip]

If Iraq is lost, then containment might be the next best option.

Unless the plan all along had been to divide Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Iran into warring sub-states, carve a "Free Kurdistan" from the chaos, and use the Kurds' well deserved homeland as chief talking point in selling the New Middle East. If that is the plan, it was well understood the violence level in that part of the world would rise along with the profits of arms sales, oil sales, and the profits that come from the sales of illegal drugs, like heroin.

Currently, I truly believe we are flying by the seat of our pants as ME developments continue to unfold, waiting to see where the proxy-war lines fall, as the latter have not yet been determined.
This is the most dangerous time.

Almost a hundred years to the day (28 July) after the beginning of the War to End All Wars.

World War I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[SAYIT]

If Iraq is lost, then containment might be the next best option.

Unless the plan all along had been to divide Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Iran into warring sub-states, carve a "Free Kurdistan" from the chaos, and use the Kurds' well deserved homeland as chief talking point in selling the New Middle East. If that is the plan, it was well understood the violence level in that part of the world would rise along with the profits of arms sales, oil sales, and the profits that come from the sales of illegal drugs, like heroin.

Soooo, you're saying the current unrest is part of a greater American plan to divide and conquer all while keeping those pesky Jihadists at each others throats? Brilliant! ******* brilliant!

 

[georgephillip]

If Iraq is lost, then containment might be the next best option.

Unless the plan all along had been to divide Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Iran into warring sub-states, carve a "Free Kurdistan" from the chaos, and use the Kurds' well deserved homeland as chief talking point in selling the New Middle East. If that is the plan, it was well understood the violence level in that part of the world would rise along with the profits of arms sales, oil sales, and the profits that come from the sales of illegal drugs, like heroin.

Soooo, you're saying the current unrest is part of a greater American plan to divide and conquer all while keeping those pesky Jihadists at each others throats? Brilliant! ******* brilliant!

The credit goes to Colonel Ralph Peters, not that 'jew care

"Regarding Iraq, he (Peters) wrote, 'might it not have been wiser – as several of us suggested in 2003 – to shake off Europe's vicious legacies and give Kurds their state, Iraqi Shias their state, and the country's Sunni Arabs a rump Iraq to do with as they wished?' Regarding all these countries, he wrote, 'We needn't launch an endless war to fix the mess Europeans in pinstriped..'"

Ralph Peters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[pvsi]

How will your opinions regarding the US Empire change if the daily violence we see across many parts of the planet ever come home to roost?

"...(T)he United States must face the reality that ISIS -- with money, passports, and a base of operations -- will emerge as a threat to our friends in the region, to Europe and ultimately to us.

"We shouldn't run scared.

"ISIS's own ideology will produce a counterreaction among Iraqis who will oppose its harsh, unforgiving ideology.

"Indeed as the International Crisis Group points out, ISIS is its own worst enemy.

"The region is littered with the remains of failed jihadi efforts, including al Qaeda central. In 2013, there were 17,800 global fatalities as a result of terrorist attacks.

"Only 16 of those were Americans.

"Terror is not a strategic threat to the homeland right now.

"But it may well require a coordinated counterterror effort with our regional and international partners to prevent it from becoming one."

Opinion: How to keep ISIS terror from U.S. shores - CNN.com

Nothing will change in my opinion, no different than seeing a bully get bullied, because I TRIED to get the bully to come to its' senses, but the bully outwitted me so far.

 

[georgephillip]

How will your opinions regarding the US Empire change if the daily violence we see across many parts of the planet ever come home to roost?

"...(T)he United States must face the reality that ISIS -- with money, passports, and a base of operations -- will emerge as a threat to our friends in the region, to Europe and ultimately to us.

"We shouldn't run scared.

"ISIS's own ideology will produce a counterreaction among Iraqis who will oppose its harsh, unforgiving ideology.

"Indeed as the International Crisis Group points out, ISIS is its own worst enemy.

"The region is littered with the remains of failed jihadi efforts, including al Qaeda central. In 2013, there were 17,800 global fatalities as a result of terrorist attacks.

"Only 16 of those were Americans.

"Terror is not a strategic threat to the homeland right now.

"But it may well require a coordinated counterterror effort with our regional and international partners to prevent it from becoming one."

Opinion: How to keep ISIS terror from U.S. shores - CNN.com

Nothing will change in my opinion, no different than seeing a bully get bullied, because I TRIED to get the bully to come to its' senses, but the bully outwitted me so far.

Colonel Ralph Peters strikes me as a bully who wouldn't get the joke when his kids or grandkids start dying on their way to school...or church

"Peters' 1997 article "Constant Conflict"[6][7] stated: 'There will be no peace. At any given moment for the rest of our lifetimes, there will be multiple conflicts in mutating forms around the globe. Violent conflict will dominate the headlines, but cultural and economic struggles will be steadier and ultimately more decisive.

"'The de facto role of the US armed forces will be to keep the world safe for our economy and open to our cultural assault. To those ends, we will do a fair amount of killing.'"

Ralph Peters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Jarlaxle]

If attacked, the US should announce that if they want a holy war, they'll have one. Within the hour, Medina should vanish in a nuclear fireball.

 

[B. Kidd]

If attacked, the US should announce that if they want a holy war, they'll have one. Within the hour, Medina should vanish in a nuclear fireball.

Won't even come close to happening.........not with the current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff:


Obama's Military Lapdog

 

[georgephillip]

If attacked, the US should announce that if they want a holy war, they'll have one. Within the hour, Medina should vanish in a nuclear fireball.

How would that affect the petrodollar?

"In 1971 Richard Nixon was forced to close the gold window taking the U.S. off the gold standard and setting into motion a massive devaluation of the U.S. dollar.

"In an effort to prop up the value of the dollar Nixon negotiated a deal with Saudi Arabia that in exchange for arms and protection they would denominate all future oil sales in U.S. dollars.

"Subsequently, the other OPEC countries agreed to similar deals thus ensuring a global demand for U.S. dollars and allowing the U.S. to export some of its inflation.[2]

"Since these dollars did not circulate within the country they were not part of the normal money supply, economists felt another term was necessary to describe the dollars received by petroleum exporting countries (OPEC) in exchange for oil, so the term petrodollar was coined by Georgetown University economics professor, Ibrahim Oweiss."

Petrodollar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[georgephillip]

If Iraq is lost, then containment might be the next best option.

Unless the plan all along had been to divide Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Iran into warring sub-states, carve a "Free Kurdistan" from the chaos, and use the Kurds' well deserved homeland as chief talking point in selling the New Middle East. If that is the plan, it was well understood the violence level in that part of the world would rise along with the profits of arms sales, oil sales, and the profits that come from the sales of illegal drugs, like heroin.

Currently, I truly believe we are flying by the seat of our pants as ME developments continue to unfold, waiting to see where the proxy-war lines fall, as the latter have not yet been determined.
This is the most dangerous time.

I don't think we know exactly how or where or when the borders of the New Middle East will be drawn, but I suspect it will get even more dangerous when some of the blow-back from our actions to redraw those borders reaches London and New York. Maybe that has been part of the plan all along, as well?