“When people condemn Zionists, they mean Jews. You’re talking antisemites.”

The region known as Palestine has been inhabited by Palestinians for centuries.

Arthur Balfour was obviously aware of that reality when he published his infamous declaration in 1917:

Note the use of the word "Palestine."

Do you imagine this was a typo?

Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia

"The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British Government in 1917 during the First World War announcing its support for the establishment of a 'national home for the Jewish people' in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population."

You might also note the phrase "national home for Jewish people in Palestine" and NOT a Jewish state in Palestine.

Palestine - Wikipedia

A region? Hahahaahhaa
 
I never said I didn’t care. I said it wasn’t a genocide because it is not.

That being said, Susan Sarandon is a left-wing nut. I couldn’t care less what she says about much of anything.
Do you also deny the Holocaust?
 
Well, it does lack that German Efficiency.

But you crowd a people into a slum, and routinely start killing them, it's still genocide.

During the Holocaust, did Germany bring Jews into their hospitals for life saving treatment? Why would Israel do that if to a group of people they are trying to extinguish? Civilians die in war. I happens every time. Was Britain and the US trying to exterminate all Germans with their bombing campaign of Berlin in WWII? The first offensive killed 2000 civilians. Several hundred thousand Germans were displaced during the bombing. Guess what, if the target of the bombing moved along with the civilians(like Hamas), many more would have died during the 5 month campaign.

What is going on in Gaza is nothing like the Holocaust. Much like you guys calling Trump Hitler, the bombastic claims just make you look silly to normal people.
 
During the Holocaust, did Germany bring Jews into their hospitals for life saving treatment? Why would Israel do that if to a group of people they are trying to extinguish? Civilians die in war. I happens every time. Was Britain and the US trying to exterminate all Germans with their bombing campaign of Berlin in WWII? The first offensive killed 2000 civilians. Several hundred thousand Germans were displaced during the bombing. Guess what, if the target of the bombing moved along with the civilians(like Hamas), many more would have died during the 5 month campaign.

What is going on in Gaza is nothing like the Holocaust. Much like you guys calling Trump Hitler, the bombastic claims just make you look silly to normal people.

Cleetus, what is going on in Gaza meets the UN definition of Genocide.

"Hey, we'll treat some of the people we are trying to kill, to make ourselves look good."

The problem is, the Palestinians really don't have anywhere to go, Gaza is smaller than Chicago and more densely crowded.
 
Any idea who said this? (Answer at end of post.)

When people scream that they’re not against Jews, just against “Zionists,” they are lying. It’s a way, they think, to curse and condemn Jews without saying the word, and thus they think they are getting away with their antisemitism. They are wrong. Zionists are people (Jews and Christians alike) who believe that Jews have the right to self-determination.

- They know that Jews are indigenous to Israel, way before Islam existed, dating back 3500 years, until they were expelled by Rome.

- They know, given the hate and violence against Jews for 2,000 years, that Jews need the safe harbor of self-determination.

- They understand that the shrieks of “to the river from the sea” means the destruction of Israel and her Jews.

- They know that Jews have the right to defend themselves from evil forces who want to wipe them out, be it Iran or Hamas or any other Islamic terrorists.


Answer: MLK
Babylon did a job at dispersing the Hebrews also.
 
Cleetus, what is going on in Gaza meets the UN definition of Genocide.

"Hey, we'll treat some of the people we are trying to kill, to make ourselves look good."

The problem is, the Palestinians really don't have anywhere to go, Gaza is smaller than Chicago and more densely crowded.

The UN is full of terrorist sympathizers. Kind of like Democrats in the US.

None of their Arab brother nations want to take them in. Weird huh?
 
The UN is full of terrorist sympathizers. Kind of like Democrats in the US.

None of their Arab brother nations want to take them in. Weird huh?

Why should they?

Incidently, wrong again, Egypt, Jordan, and Syria have MILLIONS of Palestinian refugees.

This is why the Zionist Shitstains are so terrified of a right to return. Because if All the Palestinians together would outnumber the Jews and outvoted them.

Thus, why they have to maintain Apartheid.
 
" Relegating Sectarian Supremacists To A Lower Dimension "

* Antinomianism Is That By No Name Will A Law Be Made *

Well, it does lack that German Efficiency.
But you crowd a people into a slum, and routinely start killing them, it's still genocide.
When one is compelled to consider themselves independent , only when among others of similar sect , the issue is sectarian supremacy .

One should make a distinction between scope and expectations for sectarian supremacy of torahnism in israel , for qurayshism in hejaz and for fictional ishmaelism as universal , where edicts and tenets to implement the religious polities through violence cannot be extricated from the doctrines .

The left is accepting of fictional ishmaelism through its support of authoritarianism for socialism .

The sectarian supremacy and doctrinal stipulations of fictional ishmaelism violate principles of non violence and individualism and represent a significant threat against independence of the individual .
 
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It’s the DEMOCRATS who are marching against Jews and Israel, indoctrinating the gullible and ignorant youth. It’s political.

As my point in this thread has been, I'm against mixing religion and government. And that was true back when the Republicans and their gullible followers thought it was a great idea to establish Islamic Republics, costing the lives of thousands of American soldiers.
 
As my point in this thread has been, I'm against mixing religion and government. And that was true back when the Republicans and their gullible followers thought it was a great idea to establish Islamic Republics, costing the lives of thousands of American soldiers.
So you would agree then that Trump is correct in withholding government funds to liberal universities inciting antisemitism on their campuses?
 
So you would agree then that Trump is correct in withholding government funds to liberal universities inciting antisemitism on their campuses?

Sure, as long as they cut funds to all Universities, I'm fine with that.

We'll fall even further behind China on Research and Development, but hey, no biggie.
 
I never said I didn’t care. I said it wasn’t a genocide because it is not.

That being said, Susan Sarandon is a left-wing nut. I couldn’t care less what she says about much of anything.
News reports dumb Zionist dupes will never read…

End war now: Signers on petitions in Israel exceed 120,000​

Military officers, police, veterans, professionals back 43 petitions calling for ceasefire, hostage deal​

Abdelraouf Arnaout, Ahmed Asmar |17.04.2025 - Update : 18.04.2025

JERUSALEM / ANKARA


More than 120,000 people in Israel have signed 43 petitions demanding an end to the war on Gaza and a prisoner exchange, according to the “Restart Israel” website.

The platform allows Israelis to review and sign petitions electronically. As of Thursday, 120,522 people had signed calls urging the return of hostages and an immediate end to the war.

Sixteen of the petitions were signed by over 10,000 members of the military, including veterans, reservists, and soldiers from multiple brigades, elite units, and intelligence branches.

The remaining 27 petitions and letters were signed by civilian professionals, including academics, writers, poets, artists, engineers, and other professionals.

Notable figures among the signees include former Prime Minister Ehud Barak, former Chief of Staff Dan Halutz, four former navy commanders—Ami Ayalon, Yedidia Yaari, Alex Tal, and Dudu Ben-Besht—and three ex-leaders of Flotilla 13: Ran Galinka, Uzi Livant, and Tzvika Erez.

Two former artillery commanders, Avraham Bar David and Doron Kadmiel, also signed, along with other senior military figures such as Amram Mitzna, Avi Mizrahi, Amos Malka, Amnon Reshef, Moshe Sukenik, Nimrod Sheffer, and Ilan Biran.

The petitions uniformly call for the release of 59 Israeli hostages held in Gaza, 24 of whom are believed to be alive, and for a ceasefire.
End war now: Signers on petitions in Israel exceed 120,000

Netanyahu ‘enemy’ of Israel, ‘should be imprisoned’: Ex-army chief​

‘An enemy that poses a direct threat to Israel’s security, and his name is Benjamin Netanyahu,’ Dan Halutz says​


Netanyahu ‘enemy’ of Israel, ‘should be imprisoned’: Ex-army chief

Netanyahu ‘enemy’ of Israel, ‘should be imprisoned’: Ex-army chief
 
Even Israelis call it genocide.

INTERVIEW - Resigned Israeli pilot calls for end to Gaza genocide, prosecution of perpetrators​

‘No other force in the region has killed as many innocent civilians as Israeli pilots,” Yonatan Shapira tells Anadolu​

Burak Dag and Zahir Sofuoglu |26.03.2025 - Update : 28.03.2025

JERUSALEM


Resigned Israeli Air Force rescue helicopter pilot Yonatan Shapira called on Wednesday for an end to Israeli massacres in Gaza, accusing Western nations of supporting the ongoing genocide against Palestinians in the enclave.

“No other force in the region has killed as many innocent civilians as Israeli pilots,” Shapira, who resigned from the military in 2003, told Anadolu.

Shapira, who served as a rescue helicopter pilot in the Israeli Air Force in 2003 in the second Palestinian Intifada, said Israeli warplanes were sent to Gaza, the West Bank, and Lebanon to kill civilians.

“I began to realize that these were acts of terrorism,” he said.
INTERVIEW - Resigned Israeli pilot calls for end to Gaza genocide, prosecution of perpetrators
 
" One Step Further Of Subjecting Universalism For Qurayshism Doctrine To Public Scrutiny "

* Accepts Every Option And Falls For Any Is All Wrapped Up In Political Misgivings *

So you would agree then that Trump is correct in withholding government funds to liberal universities inciting antisemitism on their campuses?
The relevant civil liberties and social issues are scope and doctrinal expectations for implementing the nomian creeds of torahnism , qurayshism and fictional ishmaelism .

Opposition to implementation of torahnism , by actual lineal descendants of eponymous patriarch isaac , could be perceived as racially biased .

However , publicly claiming antisemitism while standing among semites , while those making the public claim are japhetic , appears precarious as racism , and semites often allude to the conundrum to ignore its own debase conjectures for sectarian supremacy of fictional ishmaelism .

The genetic religions of torahnism and qurayshism , via its eponymous nomian patriarchs , are limited in scope to its respective city states of israel and hejaz , whereas long term global and political expectations to implement the sectarian supremacy of fictional ishmaelism on a universal scope , even through violence as from doctrine , is a risk in much need of informed consent so as to safeguard independence of the individual as a basis for western society and for us republic .
 
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