When it's gone here it's gone forever.

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

In the fall of 1963 some of us who were supposed to be headed for college had to choose our curriculum. Mine kept getting rejected because I was choosing easy courses so I could get it over with and I kept getting kicked out of school for having long hair. Finally a guidance councilor told me that I had the third highest IQ in the class and that I was lazy. He gave me three choices, physics, chemistry or comparative government. I took the comparative government.

He was right about the lazy part but that course had an impact on my thinking that has lasted a lifetime. Jack Mayes headed the class and to this day I don’t think the school could have picked a better person to do it. Mayes was typical of high school instructors of the times. He’d grown up during the Great Depression and like his contemporaries he knew that nothing that didn’t from hard work was worth anything.

Castro had reached out to the communists and the Cuban Missile Crisis had American citizens digging fallout shelters. The Korean War was just a decade old and Vietnam was lurking in the shadows. Mayes made it clear that we were to make up our own minds about the historical evidence presented.

We studied various forms of government from early Greek democracies to modern hippie communes and then the entire last half of the course focused on modern American democracy vs. Soviet/Chinese communism.

The consensus at the end was that democracy is exclusively exceptional and that it will prevail because the end does not justify the means and the collective wisdom of the people is superior to the directed oppression of the intellectual elite.

Unfortunately this is not how history has unfolded. Yes, the Soviet Union collapsed but it did not expire-it creeped into free societies on the campuses of colleges while it slowly and deliberately supplanted a free press with the targeted, divisive propaganda of political correctness.

The Eastern Bloc Nomenklatura now wears the clothes of the American Deep State and the plague of a world government is at our doorstep. Mayes never could have predicted that the US Constitution would come under attack from an underhanded US political establishment falling all over itself to throw it into the bonfire of global communism.

America is the last place on Earth where real democracy endures. When it’s gone here it’s gone forever.

1963, when we had real democracy! If you were a white Christian man.

Do you save and send all of your lib tears to Afreekah to water their fields?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

It's not really about democracy, that is the big lie.

The US was a Republic, not a democracy, and for good reason. There were many concerns the Founders had with democracy, which is why those in the Senate were appointed by the states and had more power and served longer terms than those in the House elected directly by the people.

The issue is the destruction of federalism and the checks and balances placed by the Founding Fathers. Collectivists has usurped the rights of state and local governments and created an all powerful Federal government that now runs the show.

Interestingly, this oligarchical form of government created by Progs is relatively immune to democracy. Those in the Federal Congress have had an approval rating of under 15% for decades, yet nothing changes. This is proof positive that the political world Progs have created is a resounding failure that is destroying the country.

The masses are easily directed on how and who to vote for through various institutions such as education, the media, and stacking the deck in the two major parties as to who wins/loses in their primary battles. Now one candidate may have more votes but another is chosen.

At the end of the day, the issue is how power corrupts. The more power, the more corruption. What is now needed is to reduce the said power or it will only get worse. That is why I support the Article V movement We need a return to federalism.

Absolutely. The founders realized that it is not just a numbers game and that majorities can quickly devolve into tyrannies. In large geographical areas cultural differences are unavoidable and this must be taken into account. The expansion of the government into the business of the states has robbed us of our heritage as individuals with differences.

The centralized power of the government is the historical axe that cuts off the head of democracy by subjugating the individual to the whims of the elite who run the government. This cabal has become very bold in recent times and now resorts to the importation and implantation of foreign interlopers into the process to masquerade as representatives of a nation of which they have no historical bonds.

It's evil in the respect that it is an obvious attempt to tip the scales with illegitimate weight and keep the government in control. It's happening right before the eyes of the people and they are beginning to question it. Hopefully it isn't too late to save the republic.

Weewee on the People

The political bullies' Sacred Cow, the Constitution, established rule by a bossy and bickering oligarchy. It was written behind closed doors by lawyers for the 18th Century 1%. Out of self-interest, those who rule us from cradle to grave have to constantly brainwash us with the slavish idea that the Constitution is some divinely inspired Bible that we should approach with unquestioning awe.

 

[Timmy]

In the fall of 1963 some of us who were supposed to be headed for college had to choose our curriculum. Mine kept getting rejected because I was choosing easy courses so I could get it over with and I kept getting kicked out of school for having long hair. Finally a guidance councilor told me that I had the third highest IQ in the class and that I was lazy. He gave me three choices, physics, chemistry or comparative government. I took the comparative government.

He was right about the lazy part but that course had an impact on my thinking that has lasted a lifetime. Jack Mayes headed the class and to this day I don’t think the school could have picked a better person to do it. Mayes was typical of high school instructors of the times. He’d grown up during the Great Depression and like his contemporaries he knew that nothing that didn’t from hard work was worth anything.

Castro had reached out to the communists and the Cuban Missile Crisis had American citizens digging fallout shelters. The Korean War was just a decade old and Vietnam was lurking in the shadows. Mayes made it clear that we were to make up our own minds about the historical evidence presented.

We studied various forms of government from early Greek democracies to modern hippie communes and then the entire last half of the course focused on modern American democracy vs. Soviet/Chinese communism.

The consensus at the end was that democracy is exclusively exceptional and that it will prevail because the end does not justify the means and the collective wisdom of the people is superior to the directed oppression of the intellectual elite.

Unfortunately this is not how history has unfolded. Yes, the Soviet Union collapsed but it did not expire-it creeped into free societies on the campuses of colleges while it slowly and deliberately supplanted a free press with the targeted, divisive propaganda of political correctness.

The Eastern Bloc Nomenklatura now wears the clothes of the American Deep State and the plague of a world government is at our doorstep. Mayes never could have predicted that the US Constitution would come under attack from an underhanded US political establishment falling all over itself to throw it into the bonfire of global communism.

America is the last place on Earth where real democracy endures. When it’s gone here it’s gone forever.

1963, when we had real democracy! If you were a white Christian man.

Do you save and send all of your lib tears to Afreekah to water their fields?

Your post is nonsense.

I am merely pointing out a severe flaw in the ops argument about the “good old days” of democracy.

 

[bripat9643]

In 1860 Mr. Lincoln won the electorial collage handily, yet only won 40% of the popular vote. The losing side left congress and started their own independent nation.

We all know how that turned out. That war was still the largest shedding of young lives this continent has seen.

Round two losers?

Nope, the one hundred year Indian war killed more...

Wrong.

 

[ozro]

In 1860 Mr. Lincoln won the electorial collage handily, yet only won 40% of the popular vote. The losing side left congress and started their own independent nation.

We all know how that turned out. That war was still the largest shedding of young lives this continent has seen.

Round two losers?

Nope, the one hundred year Indian war killed more...

Wrong.

Not only wrong, but a deflection the subject at hand, which i did not lower myself to respond to.
When its gone its gone, and the last time we almost lost it, it resulted in a huge loss of life.

 

[IsaacNewton]

In the fall of 1963 some of us who were supposed to be headed for college had to choose our curriculum. Mine kept getting rejected because I was choosing easy courses so I could get it over with and I kept getting kicked out of school for having long hair. Finally a guidance councilor told me that I had the third highest IQ in the class and that I was lazy. He gave me three choices, physics, chemistry or comparative government. I took the comparative government.

He was right about the lazy part but that course had an impact on my thinking that has lasted a lifetime. Jack Mayes headed the class and to this day I don’t think the school could have picked a better person to do it. Mayes was typical of high school instructors of the times. He’d grown up during the Great Depression and like his contemporaries he knew that nothing that didn’t from hard work was worth anything.

Castro had reached out to the communists and the Cuban Missile Crisis had American citizens digging fallout shelters. The Korean War was just a decade old and Vietnam was lurking in the shadows. Mayes made it clear that we were to make up our own minds about the historical evidence presented.

We studied various forms of government from early Greek democracies to modern hippie communes and then the entire last half of the course focused on modern American democracy vs. Soviet/Chinese communism.

The consensus at the end was that democracy is exclusively exceptional and that it will prevail because the end does not justify the means and the collective wisdom of the people is superior to the directed oppression of the intellectual elite.

Unfortunately this is not how history has unfolded. Yes, the Soviet Union collapsed but it did not expire-it creeped into free societies on the campuses of colleges while it slowly and deliberately supplanted a free press with the targeted, divisive propaganda of political correctness.

The Eastern Bloc Nomenklatura now wears the clothes of the American Deep State and the plague of a world government is at our doorstep. Mayes never could have predicted that the US Constitution would come under attack from an underhanded US political establishment falling all over itself to throw it into the bonfire of global communism.

America is the last place on Earth where real democracy endures. When it’s gone here it’s gone forever.

The ignorance of the superlative.