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my plan is to literally hide in a hole in the ground, for up to a year, while nearly everyone dies/is killed. With 90-99% of the risk gone, come out to pick up all the goodies that will be left laying around.
my plan is to literally hide in a hole in the ground, for up to a year, while nearly everyone dies/is killed. With 90-99% of the risk gone, come out to pick up all the goodies that will be left laying around.
my plan is to literally hide in a hole in the ground, for up to a year, while nearly everyone dies/is killed. With 90-99% of the risk gone, come out to pick up all the goodies that will be left laying around.
In numerous threads in this firearms forum, we have talked about survival weapons. I thought I'd start a thread about survival in real terms.
First of all, I think we need to define the situation, in terms of what we are facing. I'll just use 3 arbitrary terms to define the 3 basic situations that seem most likely.
Level 1: Short term disaster - This is what I think of as a widespread post-Katrina type situation. Complete disaster, but recovery measured in months.
Level 2: Medium term disaster - This is a societal collapse but without the destruction of some of the infrastructure. Far worse than a Level 1, but it is still about surviving until things get put back together. An invasion, revolution or even a plague could cause this. Recovery in a couple of years.
Level 3: TEOTWAWKI (The End Of The World As We Know It) - This could be a nuclear war, a major solar storm, or just some sort of apocalypse. This type event will see no recovery for at least a couple of generations.
Anyone have plans or plans for plans? Or ideas?
my plan is to literally hide in a hole in the ground, for up to a year, while nearly everyone dies/is killed. With 90-99% of the risk gone, come out to pick up all the goodies that will be left laying around.
A determined (or desperate group) is capable of rooting you out of a hole.
I would suggest emergency exits and supplies stashed in at least two caches away from your hidey-hole.
my plan is to literally hide in a hole in the ground, for up to a year, while nearly everyone dies/is killed. With 90-99% of the risk gone, come out to pick up all the goodies that will be left laying around.
A determined (or desperate group) is capable of rooting you out of a hole.
I would suggest emergency exits and supplies stashed in at least two caches away from your hidey-hole.
I guess he's never heard of how one deals with moles. What a silly, silly person.
my plan is to literally hide in a hole in the ground, for up to a year, while nearly everyone dies/is killed. With 90-99% of the risk gone, come out to pick up all the goodies that will be left laying around.
A determined (or desperate group) is capable of rooting you out of a hole.
I would suggest emergency exits and supplies stashed in at least two caches away from your hidey-hole.
I guess he's never heard of how one deals with moles. What a silly, silly person.
Yeah, part of my plan is to find people who thought hunkering down in a bunker was a good plan. lol
my plan is to literally hide in a hole in the ground, for up to a year, while nearly everyone dies/is killed. With 90-99% of the risk gone, come out to pick up all the goodies that will be left laying around.
A determined (or desperate group) is capable of rooting you out of a hole.
I would suggest emergency exits and supplies stashed in at least two caches away from your hidey-hole.
I guess he's never heard of how one deals with moles. What a silly, silly person.
Yeah, part of my plan is to find people who thought hunkering down in a bunker was a good plan. lol
Ya gotta love a stationary target....
my plan is to literally hide in a hole in the ground, for up to a year, while nearly everyone dies/is killed. With 90-99% of the risk gone, come out to pick up all the goodies that will be left laying around.
A determined (or desperate group) is capable of rooting you out of a hole.
I would suggest emergency exits and supplies stashed in at least two caches away from your hidey-hole.
I guess he's never heard of how one deals with moles. What a silly, silly person.
Yeah, part of my plan is to find people who thought hunkering down in a bunker was a good plan. lol
Ya gotta love a stationary target....
I believe Patton called them "monuments to the stupidity of man".
if much of anything happens, a complete collapse will follow. the game, fish and known edible wild plants will be gone in a couple of months of any such collapse. nobody is going to be living off of the land, other than by being a cannibal. you can easily, however, live off of sprouts, potatoes grown in buckets, and similar stuff. Youtube is full of videos about that. openly revealed garden plots will get you raided/sniped. so they're not feasible, for at least a year after shtf, and even then, good idea to have them in the middle of a thicket, on a hill top
Much of the discussion in this thread has been about weapons. So let's go more in depth.
What do SHTF weapons need to be like?
I would think, without talking calibers or models, there are characteristics that can be addressed.
#1 - Durable & reliable. There won't be any mail order parts or repair shops. The guns in question need to work well in adverse conditions without being babied.
What else?
Much of the discussion in this thread has been about weapons. So let's go more in depth.
What do SHTF weapons need to be like?
I would think, without talking calibers or models, there are characteristics that can be addressed.
#1 - Durable & reliable. There won't be any mail order parts or repair shops. The guns in question need to work well in adverse conditions without being babied.
What else?
To durable and reliable I would add versatile. Able to accomplish many tasks with the same weapon.
I would have to think a good quality 12 Ga. double bl. shotgun might deserve serious consideration.
