When is it OK to shoot trespassers?

[TroglocratsRdumb]

An Arizona rancher has been charged with first-degree murder and had his bail set at a whopping $1million for fatally shooting a Mexican citizen on his property.

George Alan Kelly, 73, was arrested following the January 30 fatal shooting of Gabriel Cuen-Butimea, 48, on his ranch in Kino Springs, just a mile and a half north of the US-Mexico border.

Authorities are still investigating the fatal shooting, with the Santa Cruz County Sheriff's chief deputy saying it does not appear that Kelly knew Cuen-Butimea ahead of the shooting.
But under Arizona law, deadly force is allowed on one's own property if the homeowner believes it 'immediately necessary' to prevent trespassing.

Several other statutes — known as the 'stand your ground' laws — also defend the use of physical or deadly force when a homeowner fears a threat and believes force is necessary.

Arizona rancher, 73, is charged for shooting dead Mexican migrant

George Alan Kelly, 73, was arrested for fatally shooting Gabriel Cuen-Butimea, 48, on his Arizona ranch on January 30.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Comment:
According to Nancy Pelosi it's OK to shoot trespassers.
Pelosi's Capital Police shot Ashley Babbitt.
I'm sure that the Left will be claiming racism and an unjustified shooting.
However, I would not shoot a trespasser.
I would warn a trespasser.
Maybe a warning shot.

 

[1srelluc]

But under Arizona law, deadly force is allowed on one's own property if the homeowner believes it 'immediately necessary' to prevent trespassing.

Damn, I'd have to see the statute on that one.

Meh, that what they make "throw downs" for.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Just cause he's been arrested doesn't mean he'll be convicted. The guy needs a good lawyer

 

[Moonglow]

Rancher, 73, is charged with murder on his Arizona land after shooting dead Mexican​

Why shoot a dead mexican?

 

[The Duke]

An Arizona rancher has been charged with first-degree murder and had his bail set at a whopping $1million for fatally shooting a Mexican citizen on his property.

George Alan Kelly, 73, was arrested following the January 30 fatal shooting of Gabriel Cuen-Butimea, 48, on his ranch in Kino Springs, just a mile and a half north of the US-Mexico border.

Authorities are still investigating the fatal shooting, with the Santa Cruz County Sheriff's chief deputy saying it does not appear that Kelly knew Cuen-Butimea ahead of the shooting.
But under Arizona law, deadly force is allowed on one's own property if the homeowner believes it 'immediately necessary' to prevent trespassing.

Several other statutes — known as the 'stand your ground' laws — also defend the use of physical or deadly force when a homeowner fears a threat and believes force is necessary.

Arizona rancher, 73, is charged for shooting dead Mexican migrant

George Alan Kelly, 73, was arrested for fatally shooting Gabriel Cuen-Butimea, 48, on his Arizona ranch on January 30.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Comment:
According to Nancy Pelosi it's OK to shoot trespassers.
Pelosi's Capital Police shot Ashley Babbitt.
I'm sure that the Left will be claiming racism and an unjustified shooting.
However, I would not shoot a trespasser.
I would warn a trespasser.
Maybe a warning shot.

You know what? Illegals should not be able to go through American's properties to invade the US without getting shot. Or..fucking mine the fenceline n shit. This is America, fuck that!

 

[Concerned American]

An Arizona rancher has been charged with first-degree murder and had his bail set at a whopping $1million for fatally shooting a Mexican citizen on his property.

George Alan Kelly, 73, was arrested following the January 30 fatal shooting of Gabriel Cuen-Butimea, 48, on his ranch in Kino Springs, just a mile and a half north of the US-Mexico border.

Authorities are still investigating the fatal shooting, with the Santa Cruz County Sheriff's chief deputy saying it does not appear that Kelly knew Cuen-Butimea ahead of the shooting.
But under Arizona law, deadly force is allowed on one's own property if the homeowner believes it 'immediately necessary' to prevent trespassing.

Several other statutes — known as the 'stand your ground' laws — also defend the use of physical or deadly force when a homeowner fears a threat and believes force is necessary.

Arizona rancher, 73, is charged for shooting dead Mexican migrant

George Alan Kelly, 73, was arrested for fatally shooting Gabriel Cuen-Butimea, 48, on his Arizona ranch on January 30.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Comment:
According to Nancy Pelosi it's OK to shoot trespassers.
Pelosi's Capital Police shot Ashley Babbitt.
I'm sure that the Left will be claiming racism and an unjustified shooting.
However, I would not shoot a trespasser.
I would warn a trespasser.
Maybe a warning shot.

It is OK to shoot a trespasser OUTDOORS when you tell them they are on private property and to leave and they don't comply. INDOORS, no warning and they will be going out quicker than they came in.

 

[Concerned American]

But under Arizona law, deadly force is allowed on one's own property if the homeowner believes it 'immediately necessary' to prevent trespassing.

Damn, I'd have to see the statute on that one.

Meh, that what they make "throw downs" for.

FL and CO have "make my day laws"

 

[fncceo]

When is it OK to shoot trespassers?​

When no one else is looking ... and you have a place to dispose of the body ...

 

[strollingbones]

What You Need to Know About North Carolina’s Stand Your Ground Law

You may be able to yourself or others by using deadly force under North Carolina’s stand your ground law. Here’s what you need to know about this law.

www.browninglonglaw.com

w.n.c. here....i had an issue with someone refusing to id themselves on my property...he took a right outta my drive not knowing the road is dead end...i pulled the truck out in front of him and made him give me an id...then drove off with it and told him he would be getting it back from sheriff who i called..i told the deputy that i was alone ...hubby was at bristol...i will never forget the deputy telling the guy he was lucky i didnt shoot him ...the young man was a subcontactor working for the cable people...a yankee from pa...young man was told next time you are ask for an id show it....also told him he was lucky my husband was not at home...

i was ask if i wanted him arrested ...that bruce would have to come in on sunday...deputy assured me that the young man had the hell scared outta him already...i was ask why i didnt have a pistol or rifle with me..now bear in mind ...i am totally in my bathrobe this entire time...i had just gotten outta the shower when i saw the idiot on my property..so from what i understood...had i ask him to leave and he refused i could have shot him...harsh for just being stupid on wrong road

 

[Moonglow]

You landowners sound like assholes

 

[fncceo]

You landowners sound like assholes

Sometimes, being an arsehole can come in handy.

Especially with "difficult" tenants.

 

[there4eyeM]

Death penalty for non-violent infraction?

 

[Moonglow]

Sometimes, being an arsehole can come in handy.

Especially with "difficult" tenants.

I have never had to pull a gun or arrest any of mine.

 

[fncceo]

Death penalty for non-violent infraction?

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

 

[ozro]

Trespassers:
If the dogs don't kill them, I can always shoot them.

 

[Blues Man]

If the old guy's life was not in imminent danger the shooting is not justified.

 

[strollingbones]

i was home alone..dont fuck with southern women....we not only defend our property but we damn sure defend ourselves

 

[there4eyeM]

When is it OK to shoot trespassers?​

When they are hot and thirsty, perhaps with a water pistol.
With a firearm, merely for trespassing? Never.

 

[Concerned American]

Death penalty for non-violent infraction?

Piglosi normalized it on Jan 6. Summary execution for trespass on public property.

 

[mak2]

I CC every day and have always thought the morals and ethics of deadly force was the most important topic when one carries. Even more important than going to the range is have a good idea of when to use deadly force. Morally for me it is to protect myself and others from physical harm if that harm might cause death to some severe injury. If AZ law really says that a landowner could literally set up a shooting range on his property near the border with a ice cold Kool-Aid stand and pick them off when they stop for a drink. I think shooting people that cross your lawn and causing no physical theat makes you a murder. AZ might have lower standards...