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Aren't you happy you revived this dead thread you ******* Moron?God of the gaps. What we don’t know must be god.
(and you only learned 'god of the gaps' from ME.)
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Aren't you happy you revived this dead thread you ******* Moron?God of the gaps. What we don’t know must be god.
I didn't say the bible says blacks and whites shouldn't marry. That's something Christians told me.
The Bible says that we are of one race -- the human race. Nothing against interracial marriages. What's interesting is believers should not marry non-believers.
I know you don't understand why this statement is silly and specious. This is how your magical beliefs handicap you.How can the truth lose lol?
One can't lose with the truth. Thus, there is a winner and a loser in this discussion.
For example, you believe in Perseverance finding evidence on Mars for some kind of life but it won't.
So far, it's been really silly things that reporters have been reporting on such as naming rocks and did it witness a rainbow. Can you admit that you lost because you believe in fairy tales taught you from Darwin, Lyell, Hutton, and other atheists? I don't think you'll admit you were silly and wrong.
A number of attempts were made to use the Bible to justify those bans on interracial marriage. Vague assertions were made that God intended for the races to remain separate. Some verses (Exodus 34:10-16, 2 Corinthians 6:14, etc.) were quoted in part or otherwise out of context in an attempt to show that God opposed interracial marriage.
Some people insist that the Bible meant for the races to remain pure, therefore prohibiting any kind of interracial marriage. Usually two biblical texts are drawn upon to support that view. One is the fact that Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. As you recall, Shem received a patriarchal blessing, and an enlargement of that was given to Japheth. Ham, because he looked upon his father’s nakedness, was cursed. “Cursed be Canaan” was the malediction that Noah pronounced on Ham and his descendants. Some have neatly contrived from the three sons of Noah, three survivors of the flood, that this is the historic basis for the three basic generic types of human beings: the Caucasian, the Negroid, and the Mongoloid. They claim that this is the biblical justification for there being a curse put on the black race, and white people should have no intermarriage with them. This was cited, for example, in the early documents of Mormonism, which was a great embarrassment to them when it was made public a few years ago.
Others go back to Creation, where we read that God created everything “after its kind.” People say that this is the divine order of things in creation, that God made things according to their kind, and his intent was that they should stay according to their kind.
Also, the bible justified slavery.
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How Antebellum Christians Justified Slavery - JSTOR Daily
After Emancipation, the Protestant denominations that had been in the vanguard of the defense of slavery refused to revise their proslavery views. In their minds, slavery had been divinely sanctioned.daily.jstor.org
You seem to confuse terms and definitions. Your appeals to magic and supernaturalism at the hands of your gods are no different. They both require a break from reality and rely on “,,, because I say so”, nonsense.Not by magical “life spirits”.Life spirit? Are you so conceited to think that some eternal party in someSame direction you're going. 6 feet under or in Urn.Amun Ra?Who?Have you ever seen the evolution of New Zealand? No mammals are native to the country. So it’s very interesting to see how the birds have evolved on this island. It’s almost like we get to see what evolution might look like on another planet. Some birds are meat eaters, carnivores, vegetarians. Some can’t fly. It’s crazy.If apes and humans are too different, then they cannot possibly be related. Darwin just had a hypothesis. He wasn't able to back it up with real science and evidence. Furthermore, we still have apes and all are not bipedal.
3-D Human Genome Radically Different from Chimp
"All plant and animal genomes studied so far exhibit complex and distinct three-dimensional (3-D) structures in their chromosome configurations depending on the type of cell (e.g., heart, liver, brain, etc.). Given the incredible variability among genome configurations within a single type of creature, let alone that which exists between creatures (e.g., human vs. chimpanzee), this area of evolutionary comparison has been difficult for secular researchers. Now a new study published in Trends in Genetics evaluates research in this emerging field that shows the human 3-D genome is distinctly unique to humans, confirming previous research that showed it is as different compared to chimp as it is to mouse."
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3-D Human Genome Radically Different from Chimp
All plant and animal genomes studied so far exhibit complex and distinct three-dimensional (3-D) structures in their chromosome configurations depending on the type of cell (e.g., heart, liver, brain, etc.). Given the incredible variability among genome configurations within a single type of...www.icr.org
Isn't that natural selection created by God?
The being who created natural selection -- God.
Welp, we know which direction you're headed.
What are the supernaturalists right about?
Practically everything in the Bible.
Do you know what the evos are right about? Natural selection.
But they're wrong about evolution with natural selection.
Funny, I don't know one person who has a Urn of ashes in their home on display. So where are they keeping gramma? In the basement attack or closet?
I prefer ashes than being worm food. Think I'll be scattered in the ocean.
However, that is not what is important. What is important is where your life spirit goes and in what condition -- perfect or imperfect (gone).
“heaven” will be less a party if you’re not there?
*snicker*.
>>Life spirit?<<
As usual, you do not understand real science. How else could we have got here?
Explain this magical nonsense.
I didn't say magical. I said life is supernatural since death isn't the end all, be all.
Otherwise, there would have to be some natural process to create life, but we know from the swan neck flask experiment that only life begets life.
What would be magical is if abiogenesis happened, but it doesn't. We know from the scientific method. We also can observe that life doesn't spring up from non-life (abiogenesis). Thus, you and the atheist fools believe in false science. You actually believe some kind of magic happens from primordial soup, lightening, or something in outer space. I'm beginning to think panspermia doesn't happen either from Earth to another planet because the solar winds are so harsh.
On this, the creationists have won because you have no evidence whatsoever for life from non-life. Creating amino acids isn't creating protein. Can I help it if you and the atheist scientists cannot admit defeat and are wrong? Even this it takes billions of years thing sounds hokey as the Earth wouldn't last that long with catastrophism. Also, the layers of the Earth would be much, much, much thicker.
The bottom line is it's your side that believes in magical happenings. Those things never happen or else you would have solid evidence and you have nothing haha.
Your gods were assembly line workers who used to work for Toyota?Apes and humans, genetically, are more alike than they are different.
Which was explained already as God used the same parts. The small percentage difference makes a big difference.
You just don't get it. It's part of the design. It's quite intelligent.
Non-intelligent people would not understand.
There is no reason to accept claims that magic and supernaturalism are responsible for life on the planet. You have made no case either for the existence of your polytheistic gods or your gods having any involvement in the formation of the planet. Your insistence on a 6,000 year old, flat planet formed by the magical hands of your gods is ludicrous. You tacitly admit as much when the entirety of your argument relies on “... because the Bible says so”.
So..... you’re really suggesting that your gods are factory workers on an assembly line gluing, bolting and fashioning human and animal parts into the Life we see today.
Fascinating!
When Is An Evolution Scientist Ever Going To Admit The Other Side May Be Right?
When your side tells us which God it is without killing each other.
Aren't you happy you revived this dead thread you ******* Moron?
(and you only learned 'god of the gaps' from ME.)
Your threads you started were dead and boring. This title grabs people. If the person reading it is dumb enough to believe in religion then they were already that way before they entered this subject.Aren't you happy you revived this dead thread you ******* Moron?God of the gaps. What we don’t know must be god.
(and you only learned 'god of the gaps' from ME.)
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Don't forget I grew up Greek Orthodox. And I've looked into other Christian sects. And I've read the bible. Then read it again. Then just read the Red Letter Bible.Aren't you happy you revived this dead thread you ******* Moron?
(and you only learned 'god of the gaps' from ME.)
I don't think anyone has learned anything from you as you just spout ad hominem attacks and do not explain science well. You don't answer other people's questions nor even make a logical argument. sealybobo knows about the Christian religion, Catholicism, and Mormonism, but just in a general sense of what he's heard. From it, he can put together a logical argument. You can't because you're a moron.
No I don't believe that God created our observable universe. Do you know the difference between observable universe and universe? There is no end to the universe. In every direction it does on forever. But our observable universe has an edge. There may or may not be other universes beyond our observable universe. Since space goes on forever in every direction I doubt this is the only bubble in the entire universe.I didn't say the bible says blacks and whites shouldn't marry. That's something Christians told me.
The Bible says that we are of one race -- the human race. Nothing against interracial marriages. What's interesting is believers should not marry non-believers.
I know you don't understand why this statement is silly and specious. This is how your magical beliefs handicap you.How can the truth lose lol?
One can't lose with the truth. Thus, there is a winner and a loser in this discussion.
For example, you believe in Perseverance finding evidence on Mars for some kind of life but it won't.
So far, it's been really silly things that reporters have been reporting on such as naming rocks and did it witness a rainbow. Can you admit that you lost because you believe in fairy tales taught you from Darwin, Lyell, Hutton, and other atheists? I don't think you'll admit you were silly and wrong.
A number of attempts were made to use the Bible to justify those bans on interracial marriage. Vague assertions were made that God intended for the races to remain separate. Some verses (Exodus 34:10-16, 2 Corinthians 6:14, etc.) were quoted in part or otherwise out of context in an attempt to show that God opposed interracial marriage.
Some people insist that the Bible meant for the races to remain pure, therefore prohibiting any kind of interracial marriage. Usually two biblical texts are drawn upon to support that view. One is the fact that Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. As you recall, Shem received a patriarchal blessing, and an enlargement of that was given to Japheth. Ham, because he looked upon his father’s nakedness, was cursed. “Cursed be Canaan” was the malediction that Noah pronounced on Ham and his descendants. Some have neatly contrived from the three sons of Noah, three survivors of the flood, that this is the historic basis for the three basic generic types of human beings: the Caucasian, the Negroid, and the Mongoloid. They claim that this is the biblical justification for there being a curse put on the black race, and white people should have no intermarriage with them. This was cited, for example, in the early documents of Mormonism, which was a great embarrassment to them when it was made public a few years ago.
Others go back to Creation, where we read that God created everything “after its kind.” People say that this is the divine order of things in creation, that God made things according to their kind, and his intent was that they should stay according to their kind.
Also, the bible justified slavery.
![]()
How Antebellum Christians Justified Slavery - JSTOR Daily
After Emancipation, the Protestant denominations that had been in the vanguard of the defense of slavery refused to revise their proslavery views. In their minds, slavery had been divinely sanctioned.daily.jstor.org
You're all over the place and way off topic. This should be in the R&E section.
This isn't what's stated in the Bible. You're off in terms of what created everything "after its kind." I think you're referring to Genesis 1:25.
Anyway, do you believe God created everything and that's why the universe, Earth, and everything in it is here? Genesis, not abiogenesis.
The Christian gods never explained anything. Do you have some odd notion that the gods have ever spoken to anyone?When Is An Evolution Scientist Ever Going To Admit The Other Side May Be Right?
When your side tells us which God it is without killing each other.
The Christian God as he explained his creation best and science backs it up.
You confuse your "... because I say so", claims with a relevant argument. There is nothing to indicate your gods created or anything else in nature. Naturalism has no requirement for your gods and nothing in science "backs up" magic and supernaturalism. Where does science "back up" your gods making thunder and lighting?You seem to confuse terms and definitions. Your appeals to magic and supernaturalism at the hands of your gods are no different. They both require a break from reality and rely on “,,, because I say so”, nonsense.Not by magical “life spirits”.Life spirit? Are you so conceited to think that some eternal party in someSame direction you're going. 6 feet under or in Urn.Amun Ra?Who?Have you ever seen the evolution of New Zealand? No mammals are native to the country. So it’s very interesting to see how the birds have evolved on this island. It’s almost like we get to see what evolution might look like on another planet. Some birds are meat eaters, carnivores, vegetarians. Some can’t fly. It’s crazy.If apes and humans are too different, then they cannot possibly be related. Darwin just had a hypothesis. He wasn't able to back it up with real science and evidence. Furthermore, we still have apes and all are not bipedal.
3-D Human Genome Radically Different from Chimp
"All plant and animal genomes studied so far exhibit complex and distinct three-dimensional (3-D) structures in their chromosome configurations depending on the type of cell (e.g., heart, liver, brain, etc.). Given the incredible variability among genome configurations within a single type of creature, let alone that which exists between creatures (e.g., human vs. chimpanzee), this area of evolutionary comparison has been difficult for secular researchers. Now a new study published in Trends in Genetics evaluates research in this emerging field that shows the human 3-D genome is distinctly unique to humans, confirming previous research that showed it is as different compared to chimp as it is to mouse."
![]()
3-D Human Genome Radically Different from Chimp
All plant and animal genomes studied so far exhibit complex and distinct three-dimensional (3-D) structures in their chromosome configurations depending on the type of cell (e.g., heart, liver, brain, etc.). Given the incredible variability among genome configurations within a single type of...www.icr.org
Isn't that natural selection created by God?
The being who created natural selection -- God.
Welp, we know which direction you're headed.
What are the supernaturalists right about?
Practically everything in the Bible.
Do you know what the evos are right about? Natural selection.
But they're wrong about evolution with natural selection.
Funny, I don't know one person who has a Urn of ashes in their home on display. So where are they keeping gramma? In the basement attack or closet?
I prefer ashes than being worm food. Think I'll be scattered in the ocean.
However, that is not what is important. What is important is where your life spirit goes and in what condition -- perfect or imperfect (gone).
“heaven” will be less a party if you’re not there?
*snicker*.
>>Life spirit?<<
As usual, you do not understand real science. How else could we have got here?
Explain this magical nonsense.
I didn't say magical. I said life is supernatural since death isn't the end all, be all.
Otherwise, there would have to be some natural process to create life, but we know from the swan neck flask experiment that only life begets life.
What would be magical is if abiogenesis happened, but it doesn't. We know from the scientific method. We also can observe that life doesn't spring up from non-life (abiogenesis). Thus, you and the atheist fools believe in false science. You actually believe some kind of magic happens from primordial soup, lightening, or something in outer space. I'm beginning to think panspermia doesn't happen either from Earth to another planet because the solar winds are so harsh.
On this, the creationists have won because you have no evidence whatsoever for life from non-life. Creating amino acids isn't creating protein. Can I help it if you and the atheist scientists cannot admit defeat and are wrong? Even this it takes billions of years thing sounds hokey as the Earth wouldn't last that long with catastrophism. Also, the layers of the Earth would be much, much, much thicker.
The bottom line is it's your side that believes in magical happenings. Those things never happen or else you would have solid evidence and you have nothing haha.
Your gods were assembly line workers who used to work for Toyota?Apes and humans, genetically, are more alike than they are different.
Which was explained already as God used the same parts. The small percentage difference makes a big difference.
You just don't get it. It's part of the design. It's quite intelligent.
Non-intelligent people would not understand.
There is no reason to accept claims that magic and supernaturalism are responsible for life on the planet. You have made no case either for the existence of your polytheistic gods or your gods having any involvement in the formation of the planet. Your insistence on a 6,000 year old, flat planet formed by the magical hands of your gods is ludicrous. You tacitly admit as much when the entirety of your argument relies on “... because the Bible says so”.
So..... you’re really suggesting that your gods are factory workers on an assembly line gluing, bolting and fashioning human and animal parts into the Life we see today.
Fascinating!
You confuse supernaturalism of God and the life he created (more supernaturalism) with naturalism. We find naturalism can't happen without God and science backs it up.
Otherwise, your side would've disproved creation science and we would see evidence for apes being bipedal. We would have intelligent life on other planets. We would see life from non-life. There have been enough experiments on it hasn't there? Instead, the answer is negative and ToE is still a hypothesis. The billions of years is just silly because no one can related to that kind of long period of time. The Earth may not be here due to the catastrophism. There would be much more layers on the seafloor. Remember, your side was found wrong with believing in an infinite universe instead of an infinite God.
You seem to confuse terms and definitions. Your appeals to magic and supernaturalism at the hands of your gods are no different. They both require a break from reality and rely on “,,, because I say so”, nonsense.Not by magical “life spirits”.Life spirit? Are you so conceited to think that some eternal party in someSame direction you're going. 6 feet under or in Urn.Amun Ra?Who?Have you ever seen the evolution of New Zealand? No mammals are native to the country. So it’s very interesting to see how the birds have evolved on this island. It’s almost like we get to see what evolution might look like on another planet. Some birds are meat eaters, carnivores, vegetarians. Some can’t fly. It’s crazy.If apes and humans are too different, then they cannot possibly be related. Darwin just had a hypothesis. He wasn't able to back it up with real science and evidence. Furthermore, we still have apes and all are not bipedal.
3-D Human Genome Radically Different from Chimp
"All plant and animal genomes studied so far exhibit complex and distinct three-dimensional (3-D) structures in their chromosome configurations depending on the type of cell (e.g., heart, liver, brain, etc.). Given the incredible variability among genome configurations within a single type of creature, let alone that which exists between creatures (e.g., human vs. chimpanzee), this area of evolutionary comparison has been difficult for secular researchers. Now a new study published in Trends in Genetics evaluates research in this emerging field that shows the human 3-D genome is distinctly unique to humans, confirming previous research that showed it is as different compared to chimp as it is to mouse."
![]()
3-D Human Genome Radically Different from Chimp
All plant and animal genomes studied so far exhibit complex and distinct three-dimensional (3-D) structures in their chromosome configurations depending on the type of cell (e.g., heart, liver, brain, etc.). Given the incredible variability among genome configurations within a single type of...www.icr.org
Isn't that natural selection created by God?
The being who created natural selection -- God.
Welp, we know which direction you're headed.
What are the supernaturalists right about?
Practically everything in the Bible.
Do you know what the evos are right about? Natural selection.
But they're wrong about evolution with natural selection.
Funny, I don't know one person who has a Urn of ashes in their home on display. So where are they keeping gramma? In the basement attack or closet?
I prefer ashes than being worm food. Think I'll be scattered in the ocean.
However, that is not what is important. What is important is where your life spirit goes and in what condition -- perfect or imperfect (gone).
“heaven” will be less a party if you’re not there?
*snicker*.
>>Life spirit?<<
As usual, you do not understand real science. How else could we have got here?
Explain this magical nonsense.
I didn't say magical. I said life is supernatural since death isn't the end all, be all.
Otherwise, there would have to be some natural process to create life, but we know from the swan neck flask experiment that only life begets life.
What would be magical is if abiogenesis happened, but it doesn't. We know from the scientific method. We also can observe that life doesn't spring up from non-life (abiogenesis). Thus, you and the atheist fools believe in false science. You actually believe some kind of magic happens from primordial soup, lightening, or something in outer space. I'm beginning to think panspermia doesn't happen either from Earth to another planet because the solar winds are so harsh.
On this, the creationists have won because you have no evidence whatsoever for life from non-life. Creating amino acids isn't creating protein. Can I help it if you and the atheist scientists cannot admit defeat and are wrong? Even this it takes billions of years thing sounds hokey as the Earth wouldn't last that long with catastrophism. Also, the layers of the Earth would be much, much, much thicker.
The bottom line is it's your side that believes in magical happenings. Those things never happen or else you would have solid evidence and you have nothing haha.
Your gods were assembly line workers who used to work for Toyota?Apes and humans, genetically, are more alike than they are different.
Which was explained already as God used the same parts. The small percentage difference makes a big difference.
You just don't get it. It's part of the design. It's quite intelligent.
Non-intelligent people would not understand.
There is no reason to accept claims that magic and supernaturalism are responsible for life on the planet. You have made no case either for the existence of your polytheistic gods or your gods having any involvement in the formation of the planet. Your insistence on a 6,000 year old, flat planet formed by the magical hands of your gods is ludicrous. You tacitly admit as much when the entirety of your argument relies on “... because the Bible says so”.
So..... you’re really suggesting that your gods are factory workers on an assembly line gluing, bolting and fashioning human and animal parts into the Life we see today.
Fascinating!
You confuse supernaturalism of God and the life he created (more supernaturalism) with naturalism. We find naturalism can't happen without God and science backs it up.
Otherwise, your side would've disproved creation science and we would see evidence for apes being bipedal. We would have intelligent life on other planets. We would see life from non-life. There have been enough experiments on it hasn't there? Instead, the answer is negative and ToE is still a hypothesis. The billions of years is just silly because no one can related to that kind of long period of time. The Earth may not be here due to the catastrophism. There would be much more layers on the seafloor. Remember, your side was found wrong with believing in an infinite universe instead of an infinite God.
Don't forget I grew up Greek Orthodox. And I've looked into other Christian sects. And I've read the bible. Then read it again. Then just read the Red Letter Bible.
So it's not just what I heard once from some guy a long time ago.
You know the only difference between a fairy tale and religion? A fairy tale happened a long time ago in a far off place. Religion did too. Only you give these religious events dates. Rough dates of course. This stuff happened after all a long time ago in a far off place. Nothing from 2000 years ago survives to this day. No artifacts. No tables or chairs that Jesus the carpenter made for him. No shrine his followers made for him. No burial site. No writings that his disciples actually wrote themselves. If you can show me the book Paul or Luke wrote in please do.
Disprove the idea that god one day POOFED land animals onto earth? And your ancestors weren't even smart enough to say God POOFED thousands of first humans onto earth. Instead the believed that Adam and Eve's kids fucked each other. And Noah's kids fucked each other.
Your "theory" is ridiculous. It's why science and evolution makes sense. Of course all animals started in the water. From single cell organisms to complex life, then out of the water and so there never was one first man. There were hundreds of thousands of apes that evolved into man.
Humans are primates. Physical and genetic similarities show that the modern human species, Homo sapiens, has a very close relationship to another group of primate species, the apes. Humans and the great apes (large apes) of Africa -- chimpanzees (including bonobos, or so-called “pygmy chimpanzees”) and gorillas -- share a common ancestor that lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. Humans first evolved in Africa, and much of human evolution occurred on that continent. The fossils of early humans who lived between 6 and 2 million years ago come entirely from Africa.
The Christian gods never explained anything. Do you have some odd notion that the gods have ever spoken to anyone?When Is An Evolution Scientist Ever Going To Admit The Other Side May Be Right?
When your side tells us which God it is without killing each other.
The Christian God as he explained his creation best and science backs it up.
Where does science "back up" magic and supernaturalism? Does science "back up" a flat earth?
You confuse your "... because I say so", claims with a relevant argument. There is nothing to indicate your gods created or anything else in nature. Naturalism has no requirement for your gods and nothing in science "backs up" magic and supernaturalism. Where does science "back up" your gods making thunder and lighting?
Id'iot creationism has been disproved. Difficult to imagine how you missed that.
Disprove the idea that god one day POOFED land animals onto earth?
What? The land animals crawled out of the ocean.Disprove the idea that god one day POOFED land animals onto earth?
Already you lost the argument. The falsification would be the land animals would not be on Earth or abiogenesis.
I find it funny that creationists find evolution so far-fetched while believing people just popped out of thin air.
You can find proof for biological evolution in the biological studies program in any US college and university, especially the leading research universities.The Christian gods never explained anything. Do you have some odd notion that the gods have ever spoken to anyone?When Is An Evolution Scientist Ever Going To Admit The Other Side May Be Right?
When your side tells us which God it is without killing each other.
The Christian God as he explained his creation best and science backs it up.
Where does science "back up" magic and supernaturalism? Does science "back up" a flat earth?
. It would be a waste of time explaining it to you.
Instead, why don't you try to provide evidence for evolution and atheism?
You confuse your "... because I say so", claims with a relevant argument. There is nothing to indicate your gods created or anything else in nature. Naturalism has no requirement for your gods and nothing in science "backs up" magic and supernaturalism. Where does science "back up" your gods making thunder and lighting?
Id'iot creationism has been disproved. Difficult to imagine how you missed that.
None of it has or else Christianity would not be here today. Anyway, I never hear anything from evolutionists/atheists to change my mind.
What? The land animals crawled out of the ocean.
And the whale was a land mammal that went back in the water.
what’s abiogenesis? Big word. Does it disprove evolution? Why don’t I know about it then? It disproves nothing.
tons of videos on evolution on you tube and there’s a good one that explains there is no first man. Humans evolved from a lesser species that walked on all fours and lived in trees. Trees disappeared and it forced our ancestors to walk upright. This gave us the ability to use our hands for tools, drawing and developing language. The first language was hand signals not verbal.
Theres so much evidence you have to disregard to deny evolution.
Anyways, our ancestor crawled out of the water. So did every land anupimals ancestors. No animal can start out on land without the poof theory that god poofed them here, and that ridiculous
You can find proof for biological evolution in the biological studies program in any US college and university, especially the leading research universities.
Since ID'iot creationism is not science, you can't compare the two.You can find proof for biological evolution in the biological studies program in any US college and university, especially the leading research universities.
I learned evolution through my alma mater -- https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/home.php. Check it out sometimes. I only posted it over 50x, but can compare it to creation science to see which is superior.