"So if I were an English Roman Catholic, I'd have an "automatic connection" to Rome, so by your logic english Catholics can invade Italy, drive out the native Italians and establish a "Roman homeland"?"
The difference ofcourse is that Italy is a sovereign state whereas Palestine never was. Further, the so called natives were infact arab immigrants themselves on the whole so the British and then the UN were correct to partition the land to create two states - one arab the other Jewish. Don't forget that the arabs in this case weren't kicked out. They left.
Are you for real?
"...around 80 percent of the Arab inhabitants of what became Israel (50 percent of the Arab total of Mandatory Palestine) left or were expelled from their homes."
1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Even your link uses the term 'left'. ,The arabs left simply to make room for the invading arab armies who openly declared their intention to destroy the Jewish state. The arabs lost. Tough.Still, a vast number of these arabs weren't 'palestinian' in the first place. They were immigrants themselves as the UN states.
Oh dear...
Another zionazi with reading and comprehension difficulties....
..."left or were
expelled from their homes."
"The causes are also a subject of fundamental disagreement between Arabs and Israelis.
Factors involved in the exodus include Jewish military advances,
attacks against Arab villages and
fears of another massacre by Zionist militias after the Deir Yassin massacre, 239–240 which caused many to leave out of panic; Arab evacuation orders;
expulsion orders by Israeli authorities; the voluntary self-removal of the wealthier classes, the collapse in Palestinian leadership, and an unwillingness to live under Jewish control."
"...more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs
fled or were
expelled from their homes"
Oh dear...
Let me correct it for the dipstick.
"The causes are also a subject of fundamental disagreement between Arabs and Israelis. Factors involved in the exodus include Jewish military advances,
attacks against Arab villages and
fears of another massacre by Zionist militias after the Deir Yassin massacre, 239–240 which caused many to leave out of panic;
Arab evacuation orders;
expulsion orders by Israeli authorities;
the voluntary self-removal of the wealthier classes, the collapse in Palestinian leadership, and an unwillingness to live under Jewish control."
"...more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs
fled or were
expelled from their homes"
O Roudy,you are such a Charlatan Zionist Terrorist,your and others Bull Shit knows NO BOUNDS,your post above is merely an example of yours and others total Zionist Terrorist DELUSION.
From the early stages of Zionism to the present day Zionists have propagated the myth that the most important land-bridge in human history(PALESTINE) has been empty and destitute for 2000 years until it was later developed by Israeli Jews.(To the more educated amongst us this is such Crap as to demonstrate the complete lack of Ethics and Morality,such a statement beholds...even today)
To facilitate such disinformation,the Zionists adopted the following slogan to entice European Jewry to emigrate to Palestine,
"A Land with no people is for people with no Land"
Had the Zionist leadership admitted the existence of an indigenous people,then they would have been obliged to explain HOW they intended to DISPLACE them.To disprove this totally baseless myth,(which some of you still persist in spewing like Maggots) let me quote Ben-Gurion(the first Prime Minister of Israel) who stated as early as 1918 that "Palestine is NOT an empty country" in fact David Ben-Gurion went on to say "Palestine(Note the word PALESTINE) is not an empty country...on NO account must we injure the rights of the inhabitants"
David Ben-Gurion,often returned to this point,emphasizing that Palestinian Arabs had "the Full Right" to an independent economic,and communal life...but not political.Ben-Gurion himself ,stating that Jews in Palestine made up only 11% of the total Palestine(THERE IS THAT WORD PALESTINE AGAIN) as of 1914. It's not only that the majority of Jews in Palestine were NOT ZIONISTS(by Ben-Gurion's own admission), but they were also not even Citizens of Palestine since many had recently fled Anti-Semitic Tsarist Russia(The Pograms).
As the Ottoman census record show Palestine was widely inhabited in the late 19th and early 20th century,especially in the rural areas where agriculture was the main profession,moreover the population in the early 19th century in Palestine was 350,000,by 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs,and only 59,000 Jews(including many from the first and second Aliyah).
I will continue my prose with the facts from David Ben-Gurion and other Israeli and Jewish Scholars...........later,in addition also debunking Roudy your complete erronous analysis of the post regarding the treatment of Palestinians in your prose above ..steve[/QUOTE]
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291
"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)
Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000.
The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000; Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""
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Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present
....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000
http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm
You can read cant you, and accept that in 1905 in Jerusalem alone there were 40,000 Jews and only 8,000 arab muslims.