When did Liberals become establishment sell-outs?

[Sundance508]

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Thank you, thank you~
It makes me happy that you think so highly of me, and I hope I can continue to live up to your praise.
Sadly, I actually can't run for president, since I wasn't born in the United States.

That didn't stop Obama! But you might have to be black to get away with it.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Damn! abovethelaw.com is taken! That would make a great political news site!

 

[konradv]

Damn! abovethelaw.com is taken! That would make a great political news site!

Don't we have enough fake news sites? As it is FOX "talent" is apologizing for falling for them every other day!

 

[ChrisL]

Damn! abovethelaw.com is taken! That would make a great political news site!

Don't we have enough fake news sites? As it is FOX "talent" is apologizing for falling for them every other day!

If you think the MSM is giving you the real untarnished news, then you are very foolish.

 

[flacaltenn]

I recall a time when Liberals were the free spirits that liked nothing more than challenging the establishment and "Sticking it to the man". Now that seems to have reversed and Liberals appear to have sold out and will buy whatever snake oil the Democratic leadership is selling. Now the cool people challenging the corrupt establishment are Independents and Conservatives. Who knew?

when did republicans become the representatives of the alt right? as long as donald represents the breitbart radical right "base" of the GOP, there isn't any reason to vote for him.

why would we vote for someone who doesn't know anything?

Republicans have been moving further left with each passing year, and the Donald happens to be a lifelong Liberal. The fact that you're referring to them as "Alt Right" only goes to show that Democrats never knew what left and right were. The fact that they've been attacking Donald for the behavior Democrats have been exhibiting for years goes to show that they can't even tolerate themselves when the behavior is coming under a different name.

you're clueless. sociopathic donald and his alt right goons are the furthest thing from conservative

too bad if you don't like the title that accurately describes trumpeters

Sounds like you're all nostalgic for Ronald Reagan there Jillian..

 

[ChrisL]

They are not classical liberals. They are just social justice warriors, nothing more.

 

[flacaltenn]

They are not classical liberals. They are just social justice warriors, nothing more.

It's hard to fool a lady with 62,000 posts !!!!

The good instinct, the innate distrust of concentrated power and influence has been bred right out of them. They never see the unintended consequences of their actions to meddle in things that the people never really GAVE them power to meddle in. Or the failures, inefficiencies, and general dysfunction of the bureaucracy.

They worship it --- and reward it. And make constituents dependent on it.

H.D. Thoreau should be REQUIRED college reading. Instead of the leftist crap that they hit freshman with to get their "attitudes adjusted"...

 

[Bush92]

I recall a time when Liberals were the free spirits that liked nothing more than challenging the establishment and "Sticking it to the man". Now that seems to have reversed and Liberals appear to have sold out and will buy whatever snake oil the Democratic leadership is selling. Now the cool people challenging the corrupt establishment are Independents and Conservatives. Who knew?

1964

 

[Bush92]

They are not classical liberals. They are just social justice warriors, nothing more.

Social justice looney tunes more like it. Driven by white college kids from the burbs who think that they have to fight for justice to overcome a perceived white guilt psychosis thrust upon them by a socialist public education system.

 

[NoNukes]

I recall a time when Liberals were the free spirits that liked nothing more than challenging the establishment and "Sticking it to the man". Now that seems to have reversed and Liberals appear to have sold out and will buy whatever snake oil the Democratic leadership is selling. Now the cool people challenging the corrupt establishment are Independents and Conservatives. Who knew?

Those on the right support Trump, who is one of the biggest snake oil salesmen of all times.

 

[NoNukes]

I recall a time when Liberals were the free spirits that liked nothing more than challenging the establishment and "Sticking it to the man". Now that seems to have reversed and Liberals appear to have sold out and will buy whatever snake oil the Democratic leadership is selling. Now the cool people challenging the corrupt establishment are Independents and Conservatives. Who knew?

Many of us are still free spirits.

 

[ChrisL]

I recall a time when Liberals were the free spirits that liked nothing more than challenging the establishment and "Sticking it to the man". Now that seems to have reversed and Liberals appear to have sold out and will buy whatever snake oil the Democratic leadership is selling. Now the cool people challenging the corrupt establishment are Independents and Conservatives. Who knew?

Those on the right support Trump, who is one of the biggest snake oil salesmen of all times.

I'm a left leaning centrist, and I support Trump. There is nobody more untrustworthy than the career politician.

 

[ChrisL]

I recall a time when Liberals were the free spirits that liked nothing more than challenging the establishment and "Sticking it to the man". Now that seems to have reversed and Liberals appear to have sold out and will buy whatever snake oil the Democratic leadership is selling. Now the cool people challenging the corrupt establishment are Independents and Conservatives. Who knew?

Many of us are still free spirits.

Slave to your party is what you are.

 

[Bush92]

I recall a time when Liberals were the free spirits that liked nothing more than challenging the establishment and "Sticking it to the man". Now that seems to have reversed and Liberals appear to have sold out and will buy whatever snake oil the Democratic leadership is selling. Now the cool people challenging the corrupt establishment are Independents and Conservatives. Who knew?

Those on the right support Trump, who is one of the biggest snake oil salesmen of all times.

I'm a left leaning centrist, and I support Trump. There is nobody more untrustworthy than the career politician.

Chris L " gets it." The more years you spend within the establishment the more tainted you become.

 

[whitehall]

Liberals have always been establishment sellouts. Look around, thanks to the liberal establishment colleges and universities went from an open forum for the exchange of ideas and opinions to something akin to Orwell's worst nightmare where there is actually a list of words that are forbidden to utter under penalty of expulsion.

 

[emilynghiem]

I recall a time when Liberals were the free spirits that liked nothing more than challenging the establishment and "Sticking it to the man". Now that seems to have reversed and Liberals appear to have sold out and will buy whatever snake oil the Democratic leadership is selling. Now the cool people challenging the corrupt establishment are Independents and Conservatives. Who knew?

when did republicans become the representatives of the alt right? as long as donald represents the breitbart radical right "base" of the GOP, there isn't any reason to vote for him.

why would we vote for someone who doesn't know anything?

Republicans have been moving further left with each passing year, and the Donald happens to be a lifelong Liberal. The fact that you're referring to them as "Alt Right" only goes to show that Democrats never knew what left and right were. The fact that they've been attacking Donald for the behavior Democrats have been exhibiting for years goes to show that they can't even tolerate themselves when the behavior is coming under a different name.

I love you Pumpkin Row and your posts,
but at this point I'd be willing to come out in public as a "birther" demanding to see your birth certificate, because the maturity of your
words DEFIES your age. Thank you, and I hope you take that as a compliment as much as I get out of your posts!
Thanks! * * * * * 1/2 + + + × 1000 ^ 1000 !!!
You go!!! Bravo! Wish you'd run for office in time for me to vote for you. You've won my vote for the next "200 years"!
Handshake, applause and bows, I hope the next generation
thinks like you, votes like you, and changes history before I leave the planet.

Thank you, thank you~
It makes me happy that you think so highly of me, and I hope I can continue to live up to your praise.
Sadly, I actually can't run for president, since I wasn't born in the United States.

I'll get Trump to create a city state just for you to govern after you finish your internship, residency and post doctoral dissertation on what's wrong with America and how to fix it.

We can develop a "Pumpkin Row" across the border to offer education and training for women and minority leaders to manage and govern campuses and city states before running for the UN and higher offices.

may I ask where you were born, or does that make me a "birther"? What do you think of earned citizenship and earned amnesty, Ms. President? www.earnedamnesty.org

 

[flacaltenn]

"Politics is the gizzard of society, full of grit and gravel, and the two political parties are its opposite halves - sometimes split into quarters - which grind on each other. Not only individuals but states have thus a confirmed dyspepsia.
3 up, 1 down"

Henry David Thoreau

Read more: Thoreau Political Quotes

"I ask for, not at once no government, but at once a better government"

TODAY --- Kids are taught he was an anarchist. It's one of the leftist lies rewriting their OWN "Liberal" history..


"There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all its power and authority are derived, and treats him accordingly."[6]

 

[flacaltenn]

I recall a time when Liberals were the free spirits that liked nothing more than challenging the establishment and "Sticking it to the man". Now that seems to have reversed and Liberals appear to have sold out and will buy whatever snake oil the Democratic leadership is selling. Now the cool people challenging the corrupt establishment are Independents and Conservatives. Who knew?

Those on the right support Trump, who is one of the biggest snake oil salesmen of all times.

Wow -- I can agree with BOTH sides here !! It's wonderful to be so opinionated and be "independent". Like the MAJORITY of America will be after this sorry ass election..

You partisan shills wrapped around the axles of this 2 party train wreck ought to try it sometime..
Like on Tuesday..

Trump as an unhinged POPULIST is just as far from "liberal".. His tendency to punish people for crossing him with armies of lawyers will now carry the FULL POWER and AUTHORITY of the State. If HE gets elected.

A Trump with his greedy hands on the IRS, EPA, SEC, OSHA, DOJ, and all those other 3 letter Minions of Morons -- will likely become --- America's FIRST Tyrant..

And as a TRUE Liberal --- I lose either way. Which is why I have been and will be a Libertarian. Who are --- America's true "liberals"..

 

[ChrisL]

The Totalitarian Doctrine of ‘Social Justice Warriors’

Because SocJus is so focused on changing bad attitudes and ferreting out subtle biases and insensitivities, its hostility to free speech and thought is not an unfortunate byproduct of the movement but its very essence. You can be welcoming and respectful toward transgender people yet still be branded a bigot if you don’t quite believe that transwomen who identify as female but have an intact male anatomy are “real women”—and even if you keep that opinion to yourself, you can be challenged to prove your loyalty to the party line.

Obviously, retaliation for unpopular opinions isn’t limited to SocJus, but it’s hard to think of another present-day political group so unforgiving to even inadvertent verbal offenses. At California’s Claremont McKenna College last fall, Dean of Students Mary Spellman had to resign after protests. Her crime: In an email replying to a student who had written to her about racial issues on campus, Ms. Spellman had mentioned her wish to “better serve students, especially those who don’t fit our CMC mold,” supposedly implying students of color don’t belong at the school.

Nor is any other group so preoccupied with linguistic cleansing. A discussion on a social justice forum advocates expunging from one’s vocabulary such “ableist” terms as “crazy,” “dumb” and even “depressing”; at Smith College last year, the student newspaper’s report on a panel (ironically, one dedicated to free speech) rendered“wild and crazy” as “wild and [ableist slur].” Calling somebody one’s “spirit animal” is frowned upon because it’s an “appropriation” of a concept specific to some oppressed cultures. An academic list of “microaggressions” includes asking, “Where are you from?” or complimenting a foreign-born person’s English.

SocJus speech- and thought-policing includes self-policing. “I rigorously manage my own thinking and purge myself of dangerous ‘unthinkable’ thoughts—‘mindkill’ myself—on a regular basis,” wrote columnist and former Jeopardy champion Arthur Chu in a 2014 Facebook discussion. “This is what you have to do to be a feminist anti-racist progressive, i.e. a social justice stormtrooper.”


Example of Social Justice Warriors post on Tumblr.

Some conservatives describe SocJus as “cultural Marxism”; it has also been compared to Maoism, and particularly to the Cultural Revolution, with its focus on re-education and public confessions of ideological errors. But, as atheist blogger Rebecca Bradley has argued, the movement also has many elements of an apocalyptic religious cult that sees the world as mired in sin and evil except for a handful of the elect. A popular post on Tumblr, a major SocJus hive, laments, “being on Tumblr all the time gives me such a deluded view of the world. I start believing that everyone is pro-choice, open-minded, have moral compass…care about sexism, racism, body shaming, etc, but then I walk out my front door and realize that everyone is still just as moronic as they were two years ago.” This is a classic cult mindset.

There is a word for ideologies, religious or secular, that seek to politicize and control every aspect of human life: totalitarian. Unlike most such ideologies, SocJus has no fixed doctrine or clear utopian vision. But in a way, its amorphousness makes it more tyrannical. While all revolutions are prone to devouring their children, the SocJus movement may be especially vulnerable to self-immolation: Its creed of “intersectionality”—multiple overlapping oppressions—means that the oppressed are always one misstep away from becoming the oppressor. Your cool feminist T-shirt can become a racist atrocity in a mouse click. And since new “marginalized” identities can always emerge, no one can tell what currently acceptable words or ideas may be excommunicated tomorrow.

Conservatives have long railed against ‘political correctness’; but now, even some progressives are saying that activism based on identity politics, self-righteousness and intolerance toward dissent and error is a dead end.

Intersectionality also makes SocJus uniquely vulnerable to internal conflicts and tensions. How do you reconcile progressive beliefs about gender with an “anti-Islamophobia” that treats defenders of misogynist and homophobic Islamist fundamentalism as sympathetic “marginalized people?” Very awkwardly: At Goldsmiths College, University of London last December, campus feminist and LGBT groups joined in solidarity with the Islamic Society, which complained that a campus talk by Iranian-born feminist and ex-Muslim Maryam Namazie was a violation of “safe space.”

The social justice movement has many well-meaning followers who want to make the world a better place. But most of its “activism” is little more than a self-centered quest for moral purity. Dropping “crazy” from one’s vocabulary won’t improve health services or job opportunities for the mentally ill. Protesting a white singer’s “appropriation” of cornrows or rap music will have zero effect on the actual problems facing African-Americans.