When can we discuss prostituion?

[High_Gravity]

I believe that George is commenting on something that most of us realized early on in our lives..... No matter what, a Man always pays for sex. Whether it's with money, food, gifts, emotional attachment, etc.... very few women give up their intimate attentions without first being properly compensated for their time and involvement.

True, even for a one night stand you got to pay for a few drinks at least.

I think its sad that no women has ever bought you a drink before sex.

Its happened but I bought us a few more after.

 

[High_Gravity]

True, even for a one night stand you got to pay for a few drinks at least.

I think its sad that no women has ever bought you a drink before sex.

I think it's sad that he considers giving a woman time to decide if she likes him enough to have sex with him to be an intolerable expense. Probably tells us something about how successful he is at convincing women to like him.

Who the fuck are you Miss Cleo?

 

[FuelRod]

Well answering the young googly-challenged man's question -
Apparently right now.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I think its sad that no women has ever bought you a drink before sex.

I think it's sad that he considers giving a woman time to decide if she likes him enough to have sex with him to be an intolerable expense. Probably tells us something about how successful he is at convincing women to like him.

Who the fuck are you Miss Cleo?

People can figure things out from what you say. That's likely the problem you're having with the women you buy drinks for.

 

[Anachronism]

True, even for a one night stand you got to pay for a few drinks at least.

Generally. Or provide some other form of compensation.

Now you've ruined my day.

Glad I could be of service.

If you wish to look at it so cynically, then it seems only fair, given the costs that accrue to US for giving men what they want.

I can honestly say that of the handful of women I've ever been with sexually, NONE of them was worth whatever it was that I had "paid" to achieve that privilege. Now I've never been with a prostitute, but the drinks, gifts, emotional attachments, etc.. have always exceeded the value of what I got back in return, so far as I'm concerned. In fact the two one-night stands were two of the biggest mistakes in my life and the one extended relationship ended up being a massive waste of almost 3 years of my life, and with one or two exceptional evenings the sex wasn't even very good.

In my mind the problem is that both Men and women have decided that sex is as casual of an act as kissing or holding hands. I believe we need to go back to a philosophy where sex is reserved for serious, committed, long-term relationships, not just another way to end the third date.

Though I would love to hear what these horrendous "costs" are that you ladies incur for giving us what we want.

I think its sad that no women has ever bought you a drink before sex.

I can honestly say that no woman has EVER bought me a drink.

 

[High_Gravity]

I think it's sad that he considers giving a woman time to decide if she likes him enough to have sex with him to be an intolerable expense. Probably tells us something about how successful he is at convincing women to like him.

Who the fuck are you Miss Cleo?

People can figure things out from what you say. That's likely the problem you're having with the women you buy drinks for.

Right.

 

[Samson]

True, even for a one night stand you got to pay for a few drinks at least.

I think its sad that no women has ever bought you a drink before sex.

I think it's sad that he considers giving a woman time to decide if she likes him enough to have sex with him to be an intolerable expense. Probably tells us something about how successful he is at convincing women to like him.

Cecilie is very damn wise.......um, can I buy you a drink?

 

[Samson]

I think its sad that no women has ever bought you a drink before sex.

I can honestly say that no woman has EVER bought me a drink.

Just do what I do:

Hire one to buy you a drink.

 

[JBeukema]

 

[Two Thumbs]

It's a religious law, and is unconstitutional to forbid it.

Only Neveda has kept it legal.

Now, how much of a base does anyone think a pol can keep if he makes that part of his platform?

So guess what? 1000 years from now, it will still only be legal in Nevada.

 

[High_Gravity]

It's a religious law, and is unconstitutional to forbid it.

Only Neveda has kept it legal.

Now, how much of a base does anyone think a pol can keep if he makes that part of his platform?

So guess what? 1000 years from now, it will still only be legal in Nevada.

How can you say that? at one point alcohol was illegal and only white men could vote, things change.

 

[Samson]

It's a religious law, and is unconstitutional to forbid it.

Only Neveda has kept it legal.

Now, how much of a base does anyone think a pol can keep if he makes that part of his platform?

So guess what? 1000 years from now, it will still only be legal in Nevada.

Considering that congressmen are ALREADY some of the best clientel of prostitutes, why should they make it legal for the rest of us?

 

[HUGGY]

I am a male in my 30s, I have been hiring prostitutes since I was 18.
I am not very popular with women, so prostitutes make up a big part of my social life ( I am grateful for them).

This activity is the only illegal thing that I do.



QUESTION

Why is there nowhere/no one that is willing to discuss decriminalizing this practice.

I search far and wide, I try Google, I look for phone numbers. No one is discussing this massive topic.




MY THEORY

As loneliness and globalization increase, we will have a more acute needed for prostitutes. The supply and demand should both increase in tandem.


Can we start a conversation here on why and/or why not?
Is it time to zone, regulate and tax the hell out of the world's oldest profession?

Gaurding this motel on Aurora N. in Seattle I see people discussing prostitution all day and night long!

 

[Anachronism]

What it would require for Prostitution to become Legal on a broad scale is a return to a more Conservative society. Now I'm sure that sounds totally contridictory to a lot of people, but let me explain why....

For prostitution to become legal on a broad scaleit must be one of the few means possible for women to be able to earn a living. It also requires a societal mentality that women are predominantly sexual creatures designed largely for the pleasure of Men. These are typically Conservative ideologies and viewpoints.

 

[Cecilie1200]

True, even for a one night stand you got to pay for a few drinks at least.

Generally. Or provide some other form of compensation.

Now you've ruined my day.

Glad I could be of service.

If you wish to look at it so cynically, then it seems only fair, given the costs that accrue to US for giving men what they want.

I can honestly say that of the handful of women I've ever been with sexually, NONE of them was worth whatever it was that I had "paid" to achieve that privilege. Now I've never been with a prostitute, but the drinks, gifts, emotional attachments, etc.. have always exceeded the value of what I got back in return, so far as I'm concerned. In fact the two one-night stands were two of the biggest mistakes in my life and the one extended relationship ended up being a massive waste of almost 3 years of my life, and with one or two exceptional evenings the sex wasn't even very good.

In my mind the problem is that both Men and women have decided that sex is as casual of an act as kissing or holding hands. I believe we need to go back to a philosophy where sex is reserved for serious, committed, long-term relationships, not just another way to end the third date.

Though I would love to hear what these horrendous "costs" are that you ladies incur for giving us what we want.

I think its sad that no women has ever bought you a drink before sex.

I can honestly say that no woman has EVER bought me a drink.

First of all, if you ever visit Tucson, I would be more than happy to buy you a drink . . . and you don't even have to sleep with me afterward. Would that more men were willing to be that generous.

As to the costs that accrue to women, are you saying you really think this is cost-free to women? Completely aside from the huge, and very serious, costs of the risk of pregnancy and rape from casual sex, and financial dependency and potentially being abandoned with one or more children from longer-term relationships, let's just consider, lightheartedly, that one night in a bar when some guy buys me a drink in the hopes of getting into my pants later.

So, I'm in my favorite bar, open to the possibility of meeting a guy. Toward that end, I'm wearing my favorite blue stretch-velvet minidress (just as an example). 50 dollars on sale. Sexy heels? 40 dollars. I've spent about an hour getting ready to go out (and I'm a lot faster than most women about that, I'm told): doing my hair (which costs $35 once a month to have styled), applying makeup (you don't even WANT to know how much this shit costs, and it has to be replaced every couple of months), doing my nails ($25 every two weeks, more if I have to replace them instead of getting them filled).

What's that likely-looking guy across the bar done to get ready for this? Took a shower, threw on a pair of clean jeans and a shirt, and ran a comb through his hair.

Now, you might be saying, "Cecilie, you don't have to do all that primping. Men don't care about that stuff." Bullshit. Every other woman at that bar is ALSO vying to get that likely-looking guy to buy HER a drink, and each one of them has gone through her own primping ritual, and don't even try to tell me I'd get the same results from a t-shirt and a pair of yoga pants. Men may not notice the details, but they DO notice the lack of them.

Okay, so I'm all gussied up and sitting in my favorite bar. Mind you, I don't actually go to bars to pick up men. My favorite bar is a karaoke bar, and I go to sing, and the people are mostly regulars I'm friends with. Even under those circumstances, I spend part of every evening fending off unwanted attentions. Half-soused cowboys breathing stale beer in my face, old farts with daughters my age (and I'm hardly just out of college here), wanna-be players who haven't even bothered to take off their wedding rings . . . Can you imagine what it would be like if I actually WAS there to get picked up?

All of that just to make myself available so that that likely-looking guy across the bar can scan me, along with the other women hoping to be picked up, like a bunch of slabs of meat until he picks a target, meanders over, buys me a lousy $5 drink, and then feels like I owe him a roll in the hay for his generosity.

 

[Two Thumbs]

It's a religious law, and is unconstitutional to forbid it.

Only Neveda has kept it legal.

Now, how much of a base does anyone think a pol can keep if he makes that part of his platform?

So guess what? 1000 years from now, it will still only be legal in Nevada.

How can you say that? at one point alcohol was illegal and only white men could vote, things change.

Prostitution has always been out.

Alcohol is the creator of society.
Voting took a mass effort. For women, the final straw to get them the right wasn't any march, or quote from the Constitution.
They, enmass, cut thier husbands off. No luvin in my oven till I get to vote.
I think it took about 3 weeks
Simular mass movement for black Americans.

There will not be any mass movement for whores.
Why?
B/c anyone that does come out in support will be considered someone that HAS to use them. And that will carry shame for generations.

 

[Samson]

What it would require for Prostitution to become Legal on a broad scale is a return to a more Conservative society. Now I'm sure that sounds totally contridictory to a lot of people, but let me explain why....

For prostitution to become legal on a broad scaleit must be one of the few means possible for women to be able to earn a living. It also requires a societal mentality that women are predominantly sexual creatures designed largely for the pleasure of Men. These are typically Conservative ideologies and viewpoints.

No, No, No...that doesn't sound totally contradictory; It sounds ridiculous.

 

[High_Gravity]

It's a religious law, and is unconstitutional to forbid it.

Only Neveda has kept it legal.

Now, how much of a base does anyone think a pol can keep if he makes that part of his platform?

So guess what? 1000 years from now, it will still only be legal in Nevada.

How can you say that? at one point alcohol was illegal and only white men could vote, things change.

Prostitution has always been out.

Alcohol is the creator of society.
Voting took a mass effort. For women, the final straw to get them the right wasn't any march, or quote from the Constitution.
They, enmass, cut thier husbands off. No luvin in my oven till I get to vote.
I think it took about 3 weeks
Simular mass movement for black Americans.

There will not be any mass movement for whores.
Why?
B/c anyone that does come out in support will be considered someone that HAS to use them. And that will carry shame for generations.

Well just because prostitution is illegal doesn't mean its not there, in Germany prostitution is a billion dollar a year business, our economy is tanked so that could help out. Our country is bigger tha Germany so we might make even more money, besides all these sleazy massage parlors are pretty much brothels anyways, not to mention "escorts".

 

[rightwinger]

Think of all the jobs that could be created...the tax revenue

We could even open special schools

 

[Two Thumbs]

How can you say that? at one point alcohol was illegal and only white men could vote, things change.

Prostitution has always been out.

Alcohol is the creator of society.
Voting took a mass effort. For women, the final straw to get them the right wasn't any march, or quote from the Constitution.
They, enmass, cut thier husbands off. No luvin in my oven till I get to vote.
I think it took about 3 weeks
Simular mass movement for black Americans.

There will not be any mass movement for whores.
Why?
B/c anyone that does come out in support will be considered someone that HAS to use them. And that will carry shame for generations.

Well just because prostitution is illegal doesn't mean its not there, in Germany prostitution is a billion dollar a year business, our economy is tanked so that could help out. Our country is bigger tha Germany so we might make even more money, besides all these sleazy massage parlors are pretty much brothels anyways, not to mention "escorts".

So you literally want to

"Tax that ass"


sumbody had to go there.