Whats wrong with education from teachers point of view

[Mac-7]

I often clash with the public teachers on this forum

They know who they are and what we disagree about

But the teachers on this video have valid complaints and my sympathy

The reason we have a teacher shortage is how difficult the job is because our culture has declined so much

And its getting worse

If the teachers think parents are a problem now, wait until the out of control children in the schools today grow up and have children of their own

Because conditions can and probably will get worse

 

[Woodznutz]

I often clash with the public teachers on this forum

They know who they are and what we disagree about

But the teachers on this video have valid complaints and my sympathy

The reason we have a teacher shortage is how difficult the job is because our culture has declined so much

And its getting worse

If the teachers think parents are a problem now, wait until the out of control children in the schools today grow up and have children of their own

Because conditions can and probably will get worse

Many such parents won't allow their kids to do the same things things that they did.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I often clash with the public teachers on this forum

They know who they are and what we disagree about

But the teachers on this video have valid complaints and my sympathy

The reason we have a teacher shortage is how difficult the job is because our culture has declined so much

And its getting worse

If the teachers think parents are a problem now, wait until the out of control children in the schools today grow up and have children of their own

Because conditions can and probably will get worse

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Teachers please move to the safe red states, where there is a whole lot less chaos.

There is still disrespect, but a LOT less of it, and I expect that will have to start changing soon if schools want to keep their funding.

We've got a few loser parents who have raised loser kids, but it's a lot easier in small rural towns. I go to church with teachers in my district and one district away, and they say it's starting to change. Students are wising up and not buying so much of the woke bullshit.

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[Woodznutz]

I often clash with the public teachers on this forum

They know who they are and what we disagree about

But the teachers on this video have valid complaints and my sympathy

The reason we have a teacher shortage is how difficult the job is because our culture has declined so much

And its getting worse

If the teachers think parents are a problem now, wait until the out of control children in the schools today grow up and have children of their own

Because conditions can and probably will get worse

It all changed in the decade of the 1960's.

1. The introduction of street drugs.
2. The pill and the sexual revolution.
3. The moral decline of gov't engaging the Vietnam war leading to the rebellion against it.
4. The Women's Liberation movement.
5. Cultural rebellion expressed in music, movies, and dress.
6. The 'death of innocence', the assassinations of JFK, Bobby, and Martin.
7. The Equal Rights laws that forced unpopular integration.
8. The glorification of higher education and deprecation of the working class.

It's like "the Devil has come down having great wrath."

 

[Seymour Flops]

I work with Special Education student who have disability-related behaviors, such as students with ASD, students with ADHD, and Emotional Disturbance, now called "Emotional Disability." I'm often asked by teachers "how do you spend your whole day working with these, the worst kids in the school?"

If I know them well, I tell them the truth: I can work with a person who acts out in because I'm not trying to teach twenty-four other kids Algebra II at the same time. Also, because I'm male, I was in the Army, so I don't have the kind of visceral fear a female must have when confronted by an angry person with the mind of a child and a body the size of a grown man.

Our solutions to these behaviors is research-based psychology. I have a masters in psychology, and I get paid to use these methods, so I do. But the rarely, if ever "work" in the sense of bringing about real change in a child with behavior problems. Changes that do come about are nearly always brought about by the passage of time and the maturing of the brain. I try to keep them as much out of trouble until then as possible.

Because of campus administrators' fear of parents complaining to district, and district's fear of parents complaining to the school board, and school board's fear of parents complaining to the media or to the State Board, teachers are handed such children and asked to make the best of it, while also being pressured to keep state test scores up.

In Texas, administrators are a little better than I hear many states are in protecting and backing up teachers, but it needs to be far better.

Two things need to be used to control behavior far more: Alternative settings, i.e. in-school suspention and DAEP, and out-of-school suspension. The second is most effective at getting parents' attention, though it often leads to the dreaded complaints. We need real changes to laws such as IDEA, but the only people who get input into such laws are advocates for the disabled. If they want to hear form teachers, they go to teacher union, who are unfortunately part of the problem.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

It all changed in the decade of the 1960's.

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In 1969, I went to an "experimental" high school in Wisconsin, where we were free to study anything we wanted, or demand a new curriculum if we didn't see what we wanted. There was a spot outside the building specifically for smoking, not necessarily always cigarettes.

I spent the night with a friend who was being fostered by two teachers, a husband and wife, and we smoked weed with the husband. We smoked outside, because the wife was pregnant.

One school function involved taking acid and laying around the basement of a student, writing in our journals.

I learned to recite a couple of poems by American poets and do a couple of yoga postures. That's it.

As soon as my mom heard about the shit happening, she yanked me out and we moved to another state.

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[MisterBeale]

This guy does a lot of great content related to education;

The Political Machine Has Hijacked Education​

Aug 16, 2024
"School is back in session, and with the ongoing presidential election, this is bound to be an eventful fall semester. I thought now would be the perfect time to take a look at some of the more over-the-top performances at this summer’s teachers union conferences and what they reveal about our political system. These events played out more like political rallies for the Democratic Party rather than organized advocacy for the labor concerns of teachers these unions supposedly represent. If you know anything about their history of political contributions, this should come as no surprise. Teachers unions present themselves not just as advocates for teachers, but also as advocates for students. In reality, their main function is to funnel tax dollars into the coffers of the Democratic Party. At this point, who can be shocked that public schools are a mess?"

“There's No Incentive To Be a Good Teacher.” - Poisoning of the American Mind: The Last Word​

Jul 18, 2025
"As a follow-up to “The Poisoning of the American Mind,” I’m digging into the most thought-provoking comments from each video to see what you have to say about our education system. Parents, teachers, and homeschoolers have been watching each week and sharing their perspectives. The ability to raise our kids into curious, hardworking, self-motivated adults is just about the clearest sign of whether a society is on the right track. We certainly are in rough shape, but I’m glad to see how many of my fellow Americans are thinking deeply about these issues and working to find solutions for their families."

SERIES: The Poisoning of the American Mind​

by Dad Saves America

 

[d0gbreath]

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In 1969, I went to an "experimental" high school in Wisconsin, where we were free to study anything we wanted, or demand a new curriculum if we didn't see what we wanted. There was a spot outside the building specifically for smoking, not necessarily always cigarettes.

I spent the night with a friend who was being fostered by two teachers, a husband and wife, and we smoked weed with the husband. We smoked outside, because the wife was pregnant.

One school function involved taking acid and laying around the basement of a student, writing in our journals.

I learned to recite a couple of poems by American poets and do a couple of yoga postures. That's it.

As soon as my mom heard about the shit happening, she yanked me out and we moved to another state.

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Mom was obviously no fun. You can't choose your parents.

 

[Woodznutz]

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In 1969, I went to an "experimental" high school in Wisconsin, where we were free to study anything we wanted, or demand a new curriculum if we didn't see what we wanted. There was a spot outside the building specifically for smoking, not necessarily always cigarettes.

I spent the night with a friend who was being fostered by two teachers, a husband and wife, and we smoked weed with the husband. We smoked outside, because the wife was pregnant.

One school function involved taking acid and laying around the basement of a student, writing in our journals.

I learned to recite a couple of poems by American poets and do a couple of yoga postures. That's it.

As soon as my mom heard about the shit happening, she yanked me out and we moved to another state.

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My daughter couldn't get along in a regular high school so she was enrolled in an 'alternative' school. She didn't learn anything and is a dumb as a rock. Education means nothing to her. However, her daughter is doing great in school, loves it, gets along with everyone, and gets good grades.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

This guy does a lot of great content related to education;

The Political Machine Has Hijacked Education​

Aug 16, 2024
"School is back in session, and with the ongoing presidential election, this is bound to be an eventful fall semester. I thought now would be the perfect time to take a look at some of the more over-the-top performances at this summer’s teachers union conferences and what they reveal about our political system. These events played out more like political rallies for the Democratic Party rather than organized advocacy for the labor concerns of teachers these unions supposedly represent. If you know anything about their history of political contributions, this should come as no surprise. Teachers unions present themselves not just as advocates for teachers, but also as advocates for students. In reality, their main function is to funnel tax dollars into the coffers of the Democratic Party. At this point, who can be shocked that public schools are a mess?"

“There's No Incentive To Be a Good Teacher.” - Poisoning of the American Mind: The Last Word​

Jul 18, 2025
"As a follow-up to “The Poisoning of the American Mind,” I’m digging into the most thought-provoking comments from each video to see what you have to say about our education system. Parents, teachers, and homeschoolers have been watching each week and sharing their perspectives. The ability to raise our kids into curious, hardworking, self-motivated adults is just about the clearest sign of whether a society is on the right track. We certainly are in rough shape, but I’m glad to see how many of my fellow Americans are thinking deeply about these issues and working to find solutions for their families."

SERIES: The Poisoning of the American Mind​

by Dad Saves America

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I will watch more of this guy, and share his videos with my friends who are teachers.

Thanks.

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[iamwhatiseem]

The rise in home schooling and private schools is huge.
Here locally the public system has lost 1 in 7 students in the past 3 years alone.
Financially, this is killing public schools.

 

[Seymour Flops]

It all changed in the decade of the 1960's.

I was in fifth grade during the 60's, when the teachers tried a new idea: Put kids in ability groups and let them work independently on canned "modules" instead of teachers teaching and then students working an assignment on what they were just taught.

The main idea was to let us work on our own with no pressure, even if we just say there. We would get bored and work, was the theory.

In reading I kicked ass and because the reading teacher was head of fifth grade, I was placed in the Orange group the group that would be the highest group if such a term were allowed. In math I just sat there, waiting to be so bored that times tables interested me. And waited. And waited.

We knew teachers were not allowed to get onto us, nor were they supposed to tell our parents we weren't doing anything, because they bitterly complained about it. I don't think the designers of the program anticipated that. Hmmm. So, many of us did nothing at all. We weren't supposed to talk, but keep a bunch of fifth graders quiet when they are bored.

Anyway, my personal daily vacation from math came to an end when my math teacher called my mom pretending to worry that I was eating too much bread and sweets at lunch and then segued into "maybe that's why he doesn't do his math work. Oops, I wasn't supposed to mention that . . ."

She - and my mom's hotwheel track - saved me from a life of abject ignorance of math.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

My daughter couldn't get along in a regular high school so she was enrolled in an 'alternative' school. She didn't learn anything and is a dumb as a rock. Education means nothing to her. However, her daughter is doing great in school, loves it, gets along with everyone, and gets good grades.

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I'm glad that your daughter ended up with a daughter who is succeeding!

After we left Wisconsin, I enrolled in a sophomore year in public school, and was expelled shortly after Christmas. Thankfully, my mom researched GED classes, where I excelled and got my diploma a year ahead of everybody who was in my class in public school. What made the GED classes so great was great quality teaching!

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[Mr Natural]

Back in my working days, I worked with a few former teachers. During the interview, I always asked them why they quit teaching, and the answer was always the same: the parents.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The rise in home schooling and private schools is huge.
Here locally the public system has lost 1 in 7 students in the past 3 years alone.
Financially, this is killing public schools.

Increase your taxes!

 

[Woodznutz]

Much of what is called education is just passing on information. Interesting but of little value.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The rise in home schooling and private schools is huge.
Here locally the public system has lost 1 in 7 students in the past 3 years alone.
Financially, this is killing public schools.

Because they lose funding when they lose students.

That is another reason that schools do not suspend or expell violent students. Even if a boy does nothing all day except walk around with a stick on his shoulder waiting for a teacher to "dis" him so he can go off, verbally and sometimes physically, he still goes into the "body count" that brings them the state money.

 

[SweetSue92]

I often clash with the public teachers on this forum

They know who they are and what we disagree about

But the teachers on this video have valid complaints and my sympathy

The reason we have a teacher shortage is how difficult the job is because our culture has declined so much

And its getting worse

If the teachers think parents are a problem now, wait until the out of control children in the schools today grow up and have children of their own

Because conditions can and probably will get worse

Oh please. You trust us so little you will put children's privacy at risk just to "catch" us in whatever.

Do you know what teachers would endure if these parents--THESE parents--had access to live cameras?

Believe me: it wouldn't be us abusing children. It would be us TELLING THEIR KID NO. Right. We now have parents who have 504 plans written in which we are told we cannot tell their child no, or ask them not to do something. If a child is hitting another child we can't say, "STOP!". We're supposed to say, "gentle hands" or whatever.

I am not making this up. But go on with your cameras would solve all...

 

[SweetSue92]

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Teachers please move to the safe red states, where there is a whole lot less chaos.

There is still disrespect, but a LOT less of it, and I expect that will have to start changing soon if schools want to keep their funding.

We've got a few loser parents who have raised loser kids, but it's a lot easier in small rural towns. I go to church with teachers in my district and one district away, and they say it's starting to change. Students are wising up and not buying so much of the woke bullshit.

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This is not political. It's terrible parenting and a culture of "victimology". We now have parents writing up special ed plans on SUSPECTED "disabilities"....things like anxiety and sensory issues, whatever those may be. And then the parents dictate the very phrases we must use with their children.

 

[SweetSue92]

I work with Special Education student who have disability-related behaviors, such as students with ASD, students with ADHD, and Emotional Disturbance, now called "Emotional Disability." I'm often asked by teachers "how do you spend your whole day working with these, the worst kids in the school?"

If I know them well, I tell them the truth: I can work with a person who acts out in because I'm not trying to teach twenty-four other kids Algebra II at the same time. Also, because I'm male, I was in the Army, so I don't have the kind of visceral fear a female must have when confronted by an angry person with the mind of a child and a body the size of a grown man.

Our solutions to these behaviors is research-based psychology. I have a masters in psychology, and I get paid to use these methods, so I do. But the rarely, if ever "work" in the sense of bringing about real change in a child with behavior problems. Changes that do come about are nearly always brought about by the passage of time and the maturing of the brain. I try to keep them as much out of trouble until then as possible.

Because of campus administrators' fear of parents complaining to district, and district's fear of parents complaining to the school board, and school board's fear of parents complaining to the media or to the State Board, teachers are handed such children and asked to make the best of it, while also being pressured to keep state test scores up.

In Texas, administrators are a little better than I hear many states are in protecting and backing up teachers, but it needs to be far better.

Two things need to be used to control behavior far more: Alternative settings, i.e. in-school suspention and DAEP, and out-of-school suspension. The second is most effective at getting parents' attention, though it often leads to the dreaded complaints. We need real changes to laws such as IDEA, but the only people who get input into such laws are advocates for the disabled. If they want to hear form teachers, they go to teacher union, who are unfortunately part of the problem.

Wait until these parents discover that an IEP is NOT a real-world document, and that the cops don't care WHY their kid assaulted someone.

(I recently got into a spar with a special ed parents on social media who said 'it's not assault if the child didn't mean it')

HAHAHAHA Sure Jan