What would Jesus have looked like?

[rdean]

Skiable could have been having hallucinations or she simply got it wrong. Haven't seen any Jews with blue eyes, but nothing is impossible.

Yes, I looked into that part of it as well. While I don't remember all of the details, Jesus' genealogy confirms the possibility of blue eyes. Definitely a recessive trait, however.

Oh come on. Give it up.

 

[rdean]

I suspect eyes in the Middle East were blue about as often as they were in Africa:

It happens but it's very, very rare.

Even with Chinese.

 

[Searcher44]

ITT: Liberal Hatred of Christianity on full display.

I'm not to believe what's written in the Bible because of a depiction of what Jesus may have looked like. Or DOES look like.

Ok fine. Go with that.

Why would a probably more accurate guess of what this Jesus looked like stop you from holding whatever beliefs in the bible you have?

anti Christians are adamant that Christ looked like an ugly retard. Really your petty hatred knows no bounds.

Jesus looked like a Jew of his day. Good heavens. This is not hard, folks.

Did I hear KosherFlake mumble?

Were Ashkenazi Jews the original Jews (genetically) and were they white skinned and blue-eyed? - Quora

Apparently, there have always been blue eyed Jews. I don't . Know why it's so important for lefties to deny it, but meh.

As I was coming back to this post I was wondering why KG was chewing on this thread like a dog with a new chew toy. Is she as invested in holding on to the possibility that her "Jesus" was white (like Fox anchor Megan Kelley was when she insisted on air that"Jesus just is White"). Anyhow the Ashkenazi hold no hope for
this assertion. Their genetics is traced back only 800 years only to a group of 330 European Jews so there's no way they could have contributed to JCs gene pool.

I did come across an interesting factoid while browsing. There are 3 Ashkenazi jews on the Supreme Court, Breyer, Kagan and Ginsberg. So a group that represents .0014% of the World's population contributes 33.3% of SCOTUS. What are the odds of that? I haven't figured it out but my guess is astronomically, inconceivably small,eh? Wierd. Even astounding. Somebody should write a book.

 

[irosie91]

A girl named Akiane had a near death experience. She said in this experience, she met Jesus, and what impressed her most about him were his kind, blue eyes. She later painted this picture from her recollections.

Jesus looks like David Copperfield

Skiable could have been having hallucinations or she simply got it wrong. Haven't seen any Jews with blue eyes, but nothing is impossible.

I am a jewess. I have brown eyes but there are lots of people with blue eyes
on both my maternal and my paternal side. -----One of my brothers is blue eyed---
both grandmothers are. My son is blue eyed as was his father. I know lots
of jews with blue eyes and----based on some descriptions there were blue eyes
back then. An interesting factoid-----there are arabs with blue eyes too. You should get out more. I so sympathize with your impatience over people who struggle to reproduce "what Jesus looked like"------I like the renditions by people
like Michelangelo

 

[koshergrl]

ITT: Liberal Hatred of Christianity on full display.

I'm not to believe what's written in the Bible because of a depiction of what Jesus may have looked like. Or DOES look like.

Ok fine. Go with that.

Why would a probably more accurate guess of what this Jesus looked like stop you from holding whatever beliefs in the bible you have?

anti Christians are adamant that Christ looked like an ugly retard. Really your petty hatred knows no bounds.

Jesus looked like a Jew of his day. Good heavens. This is not hard, folks.

Did I hear KosherFlake mumble?

Were Ashkenazi Jews the original Jews (genetically) and were they white skinned and blue-eyed? - Quora

Apparently, there have always been blue eyed Jews. I don't . Know why it's so important for lefties to deny it, but meh.

As I was coming back to this post I was wondering why KG was chewing on this thread like a dog with a new chew toy. Is she as invested in holding on to the possibility that her "Jesus" was white (like Fox anchor Megan Kelley was when she insisted on air that"Jesus just is White"). Anyhow the Ashkenazi hold no hope for
this assertion. Their genetics is traced back only 800 years only to a group of 330 European Jews so there's no way they could have contributed to JCs gene pool.

I did come across an interesting factoid while browsing. There are 3 Ashkenazi jews on the Supreme Court, Breyer, Kagan and Ginsberg. So a group that represents .0014% of the World's population contributes 33.3% of SCOTUS. What are the odds of that? I haven't figured it out but my guess is astronomically, inconceivably small,eh? Wierd. Even astounding. Somebody should write a book.

Predictably you misconstrue what I said about Christ's physical appearance and completely ignore my request for evidence that Christians are vested in an Aryan savior. You carry on your own dialogue, independent of the facts.

My point is that the ones who belabor the issue of eye color are anti Christians...And they always want to push the ridiculous notion that Christ was dark and coarse looking. Jews did not, and still don't, look like Neanderthals. The likelihood that the son of God looked like the anti Juden Nazi propaganda posters is ridiculous. It's just another example of the racist, anti Semitic, anti Christian nature of progressives.

 

[Mad Scientist]

That's a good observation koshergirl.

It's not enough for for the Marxist/Islamist/Israel Haters to show that Christ may not have looked like yer stereotypical So Cal, White Hippie (which is fine with me) but that they insist on making him look like he belongs in one of those Nazi, Anti-Jew Propaganda posters.

"The Eternal Jew".

 

[JakeStarkey]

Jesus undoubtedly looked like a Jew of his time.

 

[Toro]

 

[rightwinger]

ITT: Liberal Hatred of Christianity on full display.

I'm not to believe what's written in the Bible because of a depiction of what Jesus may have looked like. Or DOES look like.

Ok fine. Go with that.

Why would a probably more accurate guess of what this Jesus looked like stop you from holding whatever beliefs in the bible you have?

anti Christians are adamant that Christ looked like an ugly retard. Really your petty hatred knows no bounds.

I said in the OP;
"If there was a historical man that the stories and gospels were based on he probably looked something like this, a typical Jew from the first Century C.E."

This typical Jew from the ME is a scientific reconstruction based on whatever evidence the forensic artist had at his disposal. I didn't pull that picture out of a hat and I don't think the fellow is "ugly". You know what my point was, a "Jesus" would probably have looked more like that than this;

Did I already post that, looks familiar.

Apparently there are a lot of people who don't understand the concept of art. For example....do you think Christians believe every rendition of Christ is a photographic image? Or that he actually sported a heart wrapped in thorns outside his body?

I think Jesus looked like me

 

[Skull Pilot]

JC would have looked more like Sadam Hussein than Jim Caviezel

 

[Searcher44]

That's a good observation koshergirl.

It's not enough for for the Marxist/Islamist/Israel Haters to show that Christ may not have looked like yer stereotypical So Cal, White Hippie (which is fine with me) but that they insist on making him look like he belongs in one of those Nazi, Anti-Jew Propaganda posters.

"The Eternal Jew".

View attachment 57338

I am not insisting the reconstruction looks like anything except the "typical" Jew of the 1st century. I said if there was a "Jesus" he probably resembled the reconstruction and not the idealised iconography of modern European and American Christianity

The "typical jew" of the 1st century that I presented in the OP was a carefully done forensic reconstruction by experienced scientists. I'll quote some from the article;

The Real Face Of Jesus
An outgrowth of physical anthropology, forensic anthropology uses cultural and archeological data as well as the physical and biological sciences to study different groups of people, explains A. Midori Albert, a professor who teaches forensic anthropology at the University of North Carolina at Wilmington. Experts in this highly specialized field require a working knowledge of genetics, and human growth and development. In their research they also draw from the fields of primatology, paleoanthropology (the study of primate and human evolution) and human osteology (the study of the skeleton). Even seemingly distant fields like nutrition, dentistry and climate adaptation play a role in this type of investigation.
While forensic anthropology is usually used to solve crimes, Richard Neave, a medical artist retired from The University of Manchester in England, realized it also could shed light on the appearance of Jesus. The co-author of Making Faces: Using Forensic And Archaeological Evidence, Neave had ventured in controversial areas before. Over the past two decades, he had reconstructed dozens of famous faces, including Philip II of Macedonia, the father of Alexander the Great, and King Midas of Phrygia. If anyone could create an accurate portrait of Jesus, it would be Neave.
Reconstructing Jesus
Matthew's description of the events in Gethsemane offers an obvious clue to the face of Jesus. It is clear that his features were typical of Galilean Semites of his era. And so the first step for Neave and his research team was to acquire skulls from near Jerusalem, the region where Jesus lived and preached. Semite skulls of this type had previously been found by Israeli archeology experts, who shared them with Neave.
With three well-preserved specimens from the time of Jesus in hand, Neave used computerized tomography to create X-ray "slices" of the skulls, thus revealing minute details about each one's structure. Special computer programs then evaluated reams of information about known measurements of the thickness of soft tissue at key areas on human faces. This made it possible to re-create the muscles and skin overlying a representative Semite skull.

KG said this fellow is ugly and neanderthal-like.

A human being might think the neanderthal was an ugly beast;

The images of Christ I saw in Sunday school books rarely looked much different than this;

On your Christian friends walls are the pictures much different?

 

[rightwinger]

That's a good observation koshergirl.

It's not enough for for the Marxist/Islamist/Israel Haters to show that Christ may not have looked like yer stereotypical So Cal, White Hippie (which is fine with me) but that they insist on making him look like he belongs in one of those Nazi, Anti-Jew Propaganda posters.

"The Eternal Jew".

View attachment 57338

I am not insisting the reconstruction looks like anything except the "typical" Jew of the 1st century. I said if there was a "Jesus" he probably resembled the reconstruction and not the idealised iconography of modern European and American Christianity

The "typical jew" of the 1st century that I presented in the OP was a carefully done forensic reconstruction by experienced scientists. I'll quote some from the article;

The Real Face Of Jesus
An outgrowth of physical anthropology, forensic anthropology uses cultural and archeological data as well as the physical and biological sciences to study different groups of people, explains A. Midori Albert, a professor who teaches forensic anthropology at the University of North Carolina at Wilmington. Experts in this highly specialized field require a working knowledge of genetics, and human growth and development. In their research they also draw from the fields of primatology, paleoanthropology (the study of primate and human evolution) and human osteology (the study of the skeleton). Even seemingly distant fields like nutrition, dentistry and climate adaptation play a role in this type of investigation.
While forensic anthropology is usually used to solve crimes, Richard Neave, a medical artist retired from The University of Manchester in England, realized it also could shed light on the appearance of Jesus. The co-author of Making Faces: Using Forensic And Archaeological Evidence, Neave had ventured in controversial areas before. Over the past two decades, he had reconstructed dozens of famous faces, including Philip II of Macedonia, the father of Alexander the Great, and King Midas of Phrygia. If anyone could create an accurate portrait of Jesus, it would be Neave.
Reconstructing Jesus
Matthew's description of the events in Gethsemane offers an obvious clue to the face of Jesus. It is clear that his features were typical of Galilean Semites of his era. And so the first step for Neave and his research team was to acquire skulls from near Jerusalem, the region where Jesus lived and preached. Semite skulls of this type had previously been found by Israeli archeology experts, who shared them with Neave.
With three well-preserved specimens from the time of Jesus in hand, Neave used computerized tomography to create X-ray "slices" of the skulls, thus revealing minute details about each one's structure. Special computer programs then evaluated reams of information about known measurements of the thickness of soft tissue at key areas on human faces. This made it possible to re-create the muscles and skin overlying a representative Semite skull.

KG said this fellow is ugly and neanderthal-like.

A human being might think the neanderthal was an ugly beast;

The images of Christ I saw in Sunday school books rarely looked much different than this;

On your Christian friends walls are the pictures much different?

White Europeans wanted a Jesus that looked like them

Hard to get converts to worship a person who is foreign looking

 

[Mad Scientist]

It isn't Christians that are hung up on the looks of Jesus, it's the non believers who are.

Yet we still get the "Jesus wasn't a Hippie White Boy" attitude to which I always reply: "Yeah? So how does that change The Word?".

Anti-Christian types think they're scoring points when they're not. What do you guys think is gonna' happen when you point this out?: "What? Jesus wasn't White? OMG! I'm leaving the Church today!".

 

[koshergrl]

That's a good observation koshergirl.

It's not enough for for the Marxist/Islamist/Israel Haters to show that Christ may not have looked like yer stereotypical So Cal, White Hippie (which is fine with me) but that they insist on making him look like he belongs in one of those Nazi, Anti-Jew Propaganda posters.

"The Eternal Jew".

View attachment 57338

I am not insisting the reconstruction looks like anything except the "typical" Jew of the 1st century. I said if there was a "Jesus" he probably resembled the reconstruction and not the idealised iconography of modern European and American Christianity

The "typical jew" of the 1st century that I presented in the OP was a carefully done forensic reconstruction by experienced scientists. I'll quote some from the article;

The Real Face Of Jesus
An outgrowth of physical anthropology, forensic anthropology uses cultural and archeological data as well as the physical and biological sciences to study different groups of people, explains A. Midori Albert, a professor who teaches forensic anthropology at the University of North Carolina at Wilmington. Experts in this highly specialized field require a working knowledge of genetics, and human growth and development. In their research they also draw from the fields of primatology, paleoanthropology (the study of primate and human evolution) and human osteology (the study of the skeleton). Even seemingly distant fields like nutrition, dentistry and climate adaptation play a role in this type of investigation.
While forensic anthropology is usually used to solve crimes, Richard Neave, a medical artist retired from The University of Manchester in England, realized it also could shed light on the appearance of Jesus. The co-author of Making Faces: Using Forensic And Archaeological Evidence, Neave had ventured in controversial areas before. Over the past two decades, he had reconstructed dozens of famous faces, including Philip II of Macedonia, the father of Alexander the Great, and King Midas of Phrygia. If anyone could create an accurate portrait of Jesus, it would be Neave.
Reconstructing Jesus
Matthew's description of the events in Gethsemane offers an obvious clue to the face of Jesus. It is clear that his features were typical of Galilean Semites of his era. And so the first step for Neave and his research team was to acquire skulls from near Jerusalem, the region where Jesus lived and preached. Semite skulls of this type had previously been found by Israeli archeology experts, who shared them with Neave.
With three well-preserved specimens from the time of Jesus in hand, Neave used computerized tomography to create X-ray "slices" of the skulls, thus revealing minute details about each one's structure. Special computer programs then evaluated reams of information about known measurements of the thickness of soft tissue at key areas on human faces. This made it possible to re-create the muscles and skin overlying a representative Semite skull.

KG said this fellow is ugly and neanderthal-like.

A human being might think the neanderthal was an ugly beast;

The images of Christ I saw in Sunday school books rarely looked much different than this;

On your Christian friends walls are the pictures much different?

My Christian friends don't have paintings of Christ on their walls. In Sunday school my lesson plans show generic, normal looking people.

 

[koshergrl]

It isn't Christians that are hung up on the looks of Jesus, it's the non believers who are.

Yet we still get the "Jesus wasn't a Hippie White Boy" attitude to which I always reply: "Yeah? So how does that change The Word?".

Anti-Christian types think they're scoring points when they're not. What do you guys think is gonna' happen when you point this out?: "What? Jesus wasn't White? OMG! I'm leaving the Church today!".

Interesting trivial....Daniel was chosen to be a palace servant based on his good looks, and Joseph was so attractive his master's wife tried to have sex with him.

Anti Christians seem to think the average thirty year old Hebrew male resembles Igor or Quasimoto.

 

[koshergrl]

He probably looked "average" for the time and place. He was able to blend into a crowd and apparently was not notable at all.

John 5:13 “Now the man who had been healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, as there was a crowd in the place.”

Luke 4:30 “but he slipped away through the crowd and left them.”

John 7:11 “The Jews were looking for him at the feast, and saying, “Where is he?”

John 11:56 “They were looking for Jesus and saying to one another as they stood in the temple, “What do you think? That he will not come to the feast at all?”

no one knows who john was and Luke never met Jesus. It seems that according to "JOHN" whoever he was------"THE JEWS" knew what Jesus looked like. I am always confused by allusions to "the jews" in the NT-------I have never been around jewish celebrations or events during which time other jews----or other people referred to the general group as "DA JOOOOS"

Comment about John and Luke does not meet thread. The commentary has to do with others' reactions to Jesus' movement.

what "others"? A writing by Luke---who never met Jesus describing
the idea that "the jooos" would recognize jesus------interests me------
especially since the circumstance described seems to be a meeting of jews.
I tend to GET INTO books. Ie LIVE IN THEM------I imagine a whole bunch of
jews during a holiday---in some temple------and a non jew commenting on
'JESUS AS A NO SHOW' which to you seems to indicate that THE JOOS
knew him by appearance. I doubt that Luke knew him by appearance, He certainly did not hear them complaining about the absence of Jesus.
I have been in synagogues during holidays-------and did not recognize by
name or by appearance EVERYONE. It seems to me that your point
is that Jesus was VERY VERY famous.... could be. I still find the characterization
of the general crowd in a synagogue on a jewish holiday as "DA JOOOOS"
kinda awkward. I have been in churches------Had I described the proceedings
of MIDNITE MASS------to anyone----I do not imagine that I would discuss the
people there as "THE CATHOLICS" Perhaps you can help me to understand
just what LUKE was saying.

In ancient times, and that is the subject of this thread, Jewish people were a breed of people and therefore had a look about them that was similar: like most Hispanics look like their ancestors, same with Asians, no different with Native Americans. In modern times, however, people have migrated all over the planet, interbred with other nationalities diluting "the look". Notwithstanding, prior to the migration they were a concentrated peoples. They were born Jews, raised Jews, and indoctrinated into Jewish culture. Today, Judism has travelled throughout the planet, and has resulted in many converts, just like Catholicism has done and that's why they no longer look like Romans, that's why when you attend mass you can't see the Roman iconic characteristics.

That's a nice theory, but no, good looking, light eyed Jews are not always the result of an Aryan in the wood pile. They have always existed.

 

[koshergrl]

20 Movie Stars You Didn't Know Were Jewish

 

[koshergrl]

That's a good observation koshergirl.

It's not enough for for the Marxist/Islamist/Israel Haters to show that Christ may not have looked like yer stereotypical So Cal, White Hippie (which is fine with me) but that they insist on making him look like he belongs in one of those Nazi, Anti-Jew Propaganda posters.

"The Eternal Jew".

View attachment 57338

I am not insisting the reconstruction looks like anything except the "typical" Jew of the 1st century. I said if there was a "Jesus" he probably resembled the reconstruction and not the idealised iconography of modern European and American Christianity

The "typical jew" of the 1st century that I presented in the OP was a carefully done forensic reconstruction by experienced scientists. I'll quote some from the article;

The Real Face Of Jesus
An outgrowth of physical anthropology, forensic anthropology uses cultural and archeological data as well as the physical and biological sciences to study different groups of people, explains A. Midori Albert, a professor who teaches forensic anthropology at the University of North Carolina at Wilmington. Experts in this highly specialized field require a working knowledge of genetics, and human growth and development. In their research they also draw from the fields of primatology, paleoanthropology (the study of primate and human evolution) and human osteology (the study of the skeleton). Even seemingly distant fields like nutrition, dentistry and climate adaptation play a role in this type of investigation.
While forensic anthropology is usually used to solve crimes, Richard Neave, a medical artist retired from The University of Manchester in England, realized it also could shed light on the appearance of Jesus. The co-author of Making Faces: Using Forensic And Archaeological Evidence, Neave had ventured in controversial areas before. Over the past two decades, he had reconstructed dozens of famous faces, including Philip II of Macedonia, the father of Alexander the Great, and King Midas of Phrygia. If anyone could create an accurate portrait of Jesus, it would be Neave.
Reconstructing Jesus
Matthew's description of the events in Gethsemane offers an obvious clue to the face of Jesus. It is clear that his features were typical of Galilean Semites of his era. And so the first step for Neave and his research team was to acquire skulls from near Jerusalem, the region where Jesus lived and preached. Semite skulls of this type had previously been found by Israeli archeology experts, who shared them with Neave.
With three well-preserved specimens from the time of Jesus in hand, Neave used computerized tomography to create X-ray "slices" of the skulls, thus revealing minute details about each one's structure. Special computer programs then evaluated reams of information about known measurements of the thickness of soft tissue at key areas on human faces. This made it possible to re-create the muscles and skin overlying a representative Semite skull.

KG said this fellow is ugly and neanderthal-like.

A human being might think the neanderthal was an ugly beast;

The images of Christ I saw in Sunday school books rarely looked much different than this;

On your Christian friends walls are the pictures much different?

White Europeans wanted a Jesus that looked like them

Hard to get converts to worship a person who is foreign looking

You do realize that the early artistic renditions of Christ were extremely rudimentary...Early Image of Beardless Jesus Found : DNews

 

[Nutz]

Everybody in the Bibile is white. Just look at all of the movies and depictions.

 

[rightwinger]

Jesus looked like me

We both have blue eyes