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"Again it depends on one's definition of 'conservative'. But one of our more conservative modern Presidents was Richard M. Nixon, now perhaps the most maligned and hated of President at least before George W. Bush, but arguably also one of the most successful in getting things done.
He served only roughly five and a half years before being forced to resign in disgrace for a crime that would evoke only shrugs and yawns now.
During Nixon's five and a half years:
His administration stablized of relationships and lessening of tensions with Red China and the USSR including a treaty to limit strategic nuclear weapons.
He promoted or signed bills for numerous anticrime laws that have stood the test of time.H
He presided over the first moon landing in 1969.
His economic policies, including revenue sharing, lessened the severity of a recession he inherited and coped well with a fuel shortage that for once was not our fault in any way.
In 1972 he was re-elected to a 2nd term by one of the widest margins on record at that time.
In 1973 he was able to announce that an accord with North Vietnam had been reached to end American involvement, a process completed under Gerald Ford.
He signed legislation ending the draft.
In 1974, his administration had negotiated disengagement agreements between the warring Israel and Egypt/Syria and paved the way for a peace treaty between Egypt and Israel five years later.
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Nixon's environmental record is unmatched, with the possible exception of Teddy Roosevelt. Nixon's environmental accomplishments included his Council on Environmental Quality producing the National Environment Policy Act establishing rules to minimalize oil spills in the ocean and other environmental catastophes.
Nixon also created the Environmental Protection Agency and signed laws including the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, and the Marine Mammal Protection Act.
There were negatives and major downsides too, and stuff went on I will never appreciate or condone, but that is true of every administration. Few Presidents of our lifetime can boast the record that Richard Nixon had in a very short time.
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But if you go back to the administrations that still embraced and respected the Constitution that the Founders gave us--these were the true conservative presidents--you find much to commend and admire.
A couple of points.
Here's some comments from Wikipedia re Nixon.
"Political scientist Walter Dean Burnham noted the "dichotomous or schizoid profiles" of presidents, which can make some hard to classify. Historian Alan Brinkley said, "There are presidents who could be considered both failures and great or near great (for example, Nixon)". James MacGregor Burns observed of Nixon, "How can one evaluate such an idiosyncratic president, so brilliant and so morally lacking?"[1]
You're one of the only people that I know who would consider Nixon conservative. Why do you?
"But if you go back to the administrations that still embraced and respected the Constitution that the Founders gave us--these were the true conservative presidents--you find much to commend and admire.
I don't know of any US administration that didn't embrace and respect the Constitution. We've always followed to the letter.
What's the evidence to support your claim?
Not taking that bait Saigon. I get really weary of you folks who are not the least bit interested in discussion but keep moving the goalposts and asking questions that have already been answered.
So what does an all-liberal America look like to you?
I just told you. Don't you ever read other's posts?
The Constitution is very specific about its interpretation and enforcement. We have always followed what it specifies. Never deviated. Now that doesn't mean that everyone of us agrees with every one of those decisions. But that's the consequences of government of our design, not a flaw.
I might have to move out of any country with a government by your design.