What would a socialist America look like?

[danielpalos]

anybody can Talk in politics. the right wing isn't brave enough to get serious.

frivolocity at the expense of the Poor is what they are best at.

And you are best at repeating something that no one is arguing with over and over and over.

why claim you care about the law, right wingers. we already know you don't.

Why do you pretend you are addressing the discussion. We already know you are not.

y'all have nothing but fallacy. i only pay attention to the right wing in political arguments.

Nonsense. You only pay attention to your own fantasies of getting a check without having to work and having girls make appointments for full body massages with happy endings.

on the Internet, I can be Den.

 

[danielpalos]

More faithful execution of a federal doctrine and State laws could enable the homeless to get off the Street.

 

[Papageorgio]

More faithful execution of a federal doctrine and State laws could enable the homeless to get off the Street.

Homelessness is not an easy solution, most of the homeless have drug issues and mental health issues and it doesn't matter what they get they will stay homeless. When Obamacare was started, they had free healthcare and they did not apply for nor want it. Not everyone fits into the box you try to fit them in that is part of the problem.

 

[WinterBorn]

And you are best at repeating something that no one is arguing with over and over and over.

why claim you care about the law, right wingers. we already know you don't.

Why do you pretend you are addressing the discussion. We already know you are not.

y'all have nothing but fallacy. i only pay attention to the right wing in political arguments.

Nonsense. You only pay attention to your own fantasies of getting a check without having to work and having girls make appointments for full body massages with happy endings.

on the Internet, I can be Den.

Den was a virgin? You can fantasize about being anyone you want. But that does not change who you are.

 

[danielpalos]

More faithful execution of a federal doctrine and State laws could enable the homeless to get off the Street.

Homelessness is not an easy solution, most of the homeless have drug issues and mental health issues and it doesn't matter what they get they will stay homeless. When Obamacare was started, they had free healthcare and they did not apply for nor want it. Not everyone fits into the box you try to fit them in that is part of the problem.

there is no excuse for living on the street with recourse to an income. some people really just need unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

 

[Papageorgio]

More faithful execution of a federal doctrine and State laws could enable the homeless to get off the Street.

Homelessness is not an easy solution, most of the homeless have drug issues and mental health issues and it doesn't matter what they get they will stay homeless. When Obamacare was started, they had free healthcare and they did not apply for nor want it. Not everyone fits into the box you try to fit them in that is part of the problem.

there is no excuse for living on the street with recourse to an income. some people really just need unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

There may not be an excuse for you, however you aren't the person that would rather live on the street than live in a home. There are those that spurn the money and the healthcare, you are woefully ignorant on the homeless. Try going down to the streets to help and come back and tell us how it went.

 

[danielpalos]

More faithful execution of a federal doctrine and State laws could enable the homeless to get off the Street.

Homelessness is not an easy solution, most of the homeless have drug issues and mental health issues and it doesn't matter what they get they will stay homeless. When Obamacare was started, they had free healthcare and they did not apply for nor want it. Not everyone fits into the box you try to fit them in that is part of the problem.

there is no excuse for living on the street with recourse to an income. some people really just need unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

There may not be an excuse for you, however you aren't the person that would rather live on the street than live in a home. There are those that spurn the money and the healthcare, you are woefully ignorant on the homeless. Try going down to the streets to help and come back and tell us how it went.

Solving for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment via market friendly means is the objective. Anyone on the street who merely unemployed should have recourse to unemployment compensation.

 

[WinterBorn]

More faithful execution of a federal doctrine and State laws could enable the homeless to get off the Street.

Homelessness is not an easy solution, most of the homeless have drug issues and mental health issues and it doesn't matter what they get they will stay homeless. When Obamacare was started, they had free healthcare and they did not apply for nor want it. Not everyone fits into the box you try to fit them in that is part of the problem.

there is no excuse for living on the street with recourse to an income. some people really just need unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

Absolute bullshit. Do you think there are no gov't programs out there that would provide an income for them?

But let's say, for the sake of ridicule, that we reform unemployment compensation the way you want. Answer these 5 questions:
1) Where do we mail the check so the homeless person gets it?
2) What kind of ID does a homeless person have? A Drivers License requires a valid address (not a P.O. Box even)
3) Where does the homeless person cash the check without an ID?
4) Where does the homeless person keep the cash? On them? That'll get them killed.
5) And lastly, since the majority of homeless people have addiction issues or mental problems, do you REALLY think a check is going to help? With an addict you are doing more harm than good. You would be funding their habit, and likely shortening their life.


Come on. Try and answer these simple questions. I know you have an issue with actually answering questions. But if you are going to claim your version of UC will solve the homeless problem, you need to be able to answer these questions.

 

[danielpalos]

More faithful execution of a federal doctrine and State laws could enable the homeless to get off the Street.

Homelessness is not an easy solution, most of the homeless have drug issues and mental health issues and it doesn't matter what they get they will stay homeless. When Obamacare was started, they had free healthcare and they did not apply for nor want it. Not everyone fits into the box you try to fit them in that is part of the problem.

there is no excuse for living on the street with recourse to an income. some people really just need unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

Absolute bullshit. Do you think there are no gov't programs out there that would provide an income for them?

But let's say, for the sake of ridicule, that we reform unemployment compensation the way you want. Answer these 5 questions:
1) Where do we mail the check so the homeless person gets it?
2) What kind of ID does a homeless person have? A Drivers License requires a valid address (not a P.O. Box even)
3) Where does the homeless person cash the check without an ID?
4) Where does the homeless person keep the cash? On them? That'll get them killed.
5) And lastly, since the majority of homeless people have addiction issues or mental problems, do you REALLY think a check is going to help? With an addict you are doing more harm than good. You would be funding their habit, and likely shortening their life.


Come on. Try and answer these simple questions. I know you have an issue with actually answering questions. But if you are going to claim your version of UC will solve the homeless problem, you need to be able to answer these questions.

Why do we have homeless on the street if all they need is an income?

 

[WinterBorn]

More faithful execution of a federal doctrine and State laws could enable the homeless to get off the Street.

Homelessness is not an easy solution, most of the homeless have drug issues and mental health issues and it doesn't matter what they get they will stay homeless. When Obamacare was started, they had free healthcare and they did not apply for nor want it. Not everyone fits into the box you try to fit them in that is part of the problem.

there is no excuse for living on the street with recourse to an income. some people really just need unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

Absolute bullshit. Do you think there are no gov't programs out there that would provide an income for them?

But let's say, for the sake of ridicule, that we reform unemployment compensation the way you want. Answer these 5 questions:
1) Where do we mail the check so the homeless person gets it?
2) What kind of ID does a homeless person have? A Drivers License requires a valid address (not a P.O. Box even)
3) Where does the homeless person cash the check without an ID?
4) Where does the homeless person keep the cash? On them? That'll get them killed.
5) And lastly, since the majority of homeless people have addiction issues or mental problems, do you REALLY think a check is going to help? With an addict you are doing more harm than good. You would be funding their habit, and likely shortening their life.


Come on. Try and answer these simple questions. I know you have an issue with actually answering questions. But if you are going to claim your version of UC will solve the homeless problem, you need to be able to answer these questions.

Why do we have homeless on the street if all they need is an income?

Answer the questions.

 

[danielpalos]

More faithful execution of a federal doctrine and State laws could enable the homeless to get off the Street.

Homelessness is not an easy solution, most of the homeless have drug issues and mental health issues and it doesn't matter what they get they will stay homeless. When Obamacare was started, they had free healthcare and they did not apply for nor want it. Not everyone fits into the box you try to fit them in that is part of the problem.

there is no excuse for living on the street with recourse to an income. some people really just need unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

Absolute bullshit. Do you think there are no gov't programs out there that would provide an income for them?

But let's say, for the sake of ridicule, that we reform unemployment compensation the way you want. Answer these 5 questions:
1) Where do we mail the check so the homeless person gets it?
2) What kind of ID does a homeless person have? A Drivers License requires a valid address (not a P.O. Box even)
3) Where does the homeless person cash the check without an ID?
4) Where does the homeless person keep the cash? On them? That'll get them killed.
5) And lastly, since the majority of homeless people have addiction issues or mental problems, do you REALLY think a check is going to help? With an addict you are doing more harm than good. You would be funding their habit, and likely shortening their life.


Come on. Try and answer these simple questions. I know you have an issue with actually answering questions. But if you are going to claim your version of UC will solve the homeless problem, you need to be able to answer these questions.

Why do we have homeless on the street if all they need is an income?

Answer the questions.

stop being frivolous. how do welfare recipients get their benefits?

 

[WinterBorn]

Homelessness is not an easy solution, most of the homeless have drug issues and mental health issues and it doesn't matter what they get they will stay homeless. When Obamacare was started, they had free healthcare and they did not apply for nor want it. Not everyone fits into the box you try to fit them in that is part of the problem.

there is no excuse for living on the street with recourse to an income. some people really just need unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

Absolute bullshit. Do you think there are no gov't programs out there that would provide an income for them?

But let's say, for the sake of ridicule, that we reform unemployment compensation the way you want. Answer these 5 questions:
1) Where do we mail the check so the homeless person gets it?
2) What kind of ID does a homeless person have? A Drivers License requires a valid address (not a P.O. Box even)
3) Where does the homeless person cash the check without an ID?
4) Where does the homeless person keep the cash? On them? That'll get them killed.
5) And lastly, since the majority of homeless people have addiction issues or mental problems, do you REALLY think a check is going to help? With an addict you are doing more harm than good. You would be funding their habit, and likely shortening their life.


Come on. Try and answer these simple questions. I know you have an issue with actually answering questions. But if you are going to claim your version of UC will solve the homeless problem, you need to be able to answer these questions.

Why do we have homeless on the street if all they need is an income?

Answer the questions.

stop being frivolous. how do welfare recipients get their benefits?

Frivolous? Don't be daft and try to make light of the questions.

How do welfare recipients get their benefits? In the mail. They are mailed to the recipient's home address.

Now, I answered your question. Answer mine? Or admit that you are wrong.

 

[danielpalos]

there is no excuse for living on the street with recourse to an income. some people really just need unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

Absolute bullshit. Do you think there are no gov't programs out there that would provide an income for them?

But let's say, for the sake of ridicule, that we reform unemployment compensation the way you want. Answer these 5 questions:
1) Where do we mail the check so the homeless person gets it?
2) What kind of ID does a homeless person have? A Drivers License requires a valid address (not a P.O. Box even)
3) Where does the homeless person cash the check without an ID?
4) Where does the homeless person keep the cash? On them? That'll get them killed.
5) And lastly, since the majority of homeless people have addiction issues or mental problems, do you REALLY think a check is going to help? With an addict you are doing more harm than good. You would be funding their habit, and likely shortening their life.


Come on. Try and answer these simple questions. I know you have an issue with actually answering questions. But if you are going to claim your version of UC will solve the homeless problem, you need to be able to answer these questions.

Why do we have homeless on the street if all they need is an income?

Answer the questions.

stop being frivolous. how do welfare recipients get their benefits?

Frivolous? Don't be daft and try to make light of the questions.

How do welfare recipients get their benefits? In the mail. They are mailed to the recipient's home address.

Now, I answered your question. Answer mine? Or admit that you are wrong.

the same way anyone else gets their benefits.

 

[WinterBorn]

Absolute bullshit. Do you think there are no gov't programs out there that would provide an income for them?

But let's say, for the sake of ridicule, that we reform unemployment compensation the way you want. Answer these 5 questions:
1) Where do we mail the check so the homeless person gets it?
2) What kind of ID does a homeless person have? A Drivers License requires a valid address (not a P.O. Box even)
3) Where does the homeless person cash the check without an ID?
4) Where does the homeless person keep the cash? On them? That'll get them killed.
5) And lastly, since the majority of homeless people have addiction issues or mental problems, do you REALLY think a check is going to help? With an addict you are doing more harm than good. You would be funding their habit, and likely shortening their life.


Come on. Try and answer these simple questions. I know you have an issue with actually answering questions. But if you are going to claim your version of UC will solve the homeless problem, you need to be able to answer these questions.

Why do we have homeless on the street if all they need is an income?

Answer the questions.

stop being frivolous. how do welfare recipients get their benefits?

Frivolous? Don't be daft and try to make light of the questions.

How do welfare recipients get their benefits? In the mail. They are mailed to the recipient's home address.

Now, I answered your question. Answer mine? Or admit that you are wrong.

the same way anyone else gets their benefits.

And the checks will be delivered where? And do they have an ID to be able to get them cashed?

My questions are relevant. I guess you will continue to refuse to answer those 5 simple questions? Why am I not surprised?

 

[danielpalos]

Why do we have homeless on the street if all they need is an income?

Answer the questions.

stop being frivolous. how do welfare recipients get their benefits?

Frivolous? Don't be daft and try to make light of the questions.

How do welfare recipients get their benefits? In the mail. They are mailed to the recipient's home address.

Now, I answered your question. Answer mine? Or admit that you are wrong.

the same way anyone else gets their benefits.

And the checks will be delivered where? And do they have an ID to be able to get them cashed?

My questions are relevant. I guess you will continue to refuse to answer those 5 simple questions? Why am I not surprised?

not very relevant. more like special pleading. EDD could handle it.

 

[WinterBorn]

Answer the questions.

stop being frivolous. how do welfare recipients get their benefits?

Frivolous? Don't be daft and try to make light of the questions.

How do welfare recipients get their benefits? In the mail. They are mailed to the recipient's home address.

Now, I answered your question. Answer mine? Or admit that you are wrong.

the same way anyone else gets their benefits.

And the checks will be delivered where? And do they have an ID to be able to get them cashed?

My questions are relevant. I guess you will continue to refuse to answer those 5 simple questions? Why am I not surprised?

not very relevant. more like special pleading. EDD could handle it.

Not relevant? All 5 questions point to the ridiculousness of your idea. Until you have answers to those questions, it is very obvious that UC would not help. But you say it is not relevant?

Here is the definition of "Special Pleading":
from: Special Pleading
"Description: Applying standards, principles, and/or rules to other people or circumstances, while making oneself or certain circumstances exempt from the same critical criteria, without providing adequate justification. Special pleading is often a result of strong emotional beliefs that interfere with reason."

Nothing I said fits the description of that fallacy. So in addition to refusing to answer valid questions, you make up shit to disparage what I have said.

Just answer the questions or admit UC is not an answer for homelessness.

 

[danielpalos]

EDD could handle it.

 

[WinterBorn]

Answer the questions.

stop being frivolous. how do welfare recipients get their benefits?

Frivolous? Don't be daft and try to make light of the questions.

How do welfare recipients get their benefits? In the mail. They are mailed to the recipient's home address.

Now, I answered your question. Answer mine? Or admit that you are wrong.

the same way anyone else gets their benefits.

And the checks will be delivered where? And do they have an ID to be able to get them cashed?

My questions are relevant. I guess you will continue to refuse to answer those 5 simple questions? Why am I not surprised?

not very relevant. more like special pleading. EDD could handle it.

As for your claim about EDD, you might do a little more research.
from:
"Established more than 60 years ago, the Unemployment Insurance (UI) program provides benefits to individuals who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own, are actively seeking work, are able to work, and are willing to accept employment."

The same restrictions that all unemployment compensation organizations have.

Also, we were talking about your claim that UC would solve the homeless problem. It obviously would not. If for no other reason than the fact that the majority of the homeless have addiction issues or mental health problems. Unless those are addressed, providing them with an unemployment check would accomplish little. In fact, it could easily cause greater harm.

 

[WinterBorn]

EDD could handle it.

Could handle what? Overcoming addiction and mental health problems? Providing homeless people with a mailing address? Exactly what would EDD handle?

 

[Marion Morrison]

The rich are the only people that need to be taxed more. We have fallen behind the rest of the world the last 35 years. As well as being the victim of incredible GOP incompetence in foreign policy and security and finances for crying out loud. And we certainly would not get all those benefits at once and don't think they cost that much.

Ask me how I know you're not well-off?

What's wrong with a flat tax rate for everyone? Too fair for you, or what?