What will West Virginia look like 1 year from now?

[hazlnut]

I am very excited about Donald Trump's election.
If we come back and talk 1 year from now, how changed will West Virginia be 1 year from now, in terms of the economy? I am from WV and are very excited with the prospect of us having prosperity and filling up the mines with coal workers again.
Please predict how much our unemployment rate will decrease.

Piles of coal no one will buy everywhere.

Because American now runs on natural gas and alternative fuels.

Coal workers have had two decades to reinvent themselves, get off their asses and find work. But they blamed Obama.

If they were smart, they learned how to build pipeline.

 

[PoliticalChic]

My cousin is a mine engineer in Fairmont, so I'm pulling for ya Brother. We replaced our straight wood furnace with a wood/coal furnace...but that's not likely to help you out too much, we are supplied by Arch Coal St. Louis.

Around here, we burn "Hillary For President" fliers for heat....

..actually, for fun.

 

[Grizz]

You meant of course to say "retraining".
They won't have to worry abut anyone coming for their jobs for the next 8 years.

Training or retraining, a distinction without a difference; only the captious feel the need to make such a distinction.

You believe more mines won't close? That's funny, as more and more coal is forsaken by power plants for cheaper & cleaner NG, and more homes and businesses add solar panels and obtain energy from wind power, we can expect less coal to be used in the US.

We might export coal to Asia, but by doing so we risk a return of acid rain to North America.

LOL, of course...how DARE I correct you....you only want the best for me.

Not at all, I don't like you. You're arrogant and a hack who has nothing of substance to offer. And a bully, much like Trump - he hides behind his twitter account, and you hide behind your keyboard.

You're projecting son, you have your opinions and you simply try and pass them off as "facts", when you get corrected you huff and you puff and declare your self morally and intellectually superior.
I don't care whether you like me or not....and as for substance, when I want to make a point other than opinion I'll bury you with substance.
You may go now.

Your arrogance is noted. I'm 69 years old and a punk like you would dare not call me "son" to my face. Your choice of the most dangerous animal in North America is telling, most punks put up a false front.

My opinions are based on empirical evidence, your posts are childish rants punctuated with ad hominems. Of course being a fool you will now accuse me of attacking you personally, showing the learned how ignorant you really are.

Ahm yo Huckleberry pissant.
I'd call you much worse than "son" son.
You reveal yourself to be worse than a fool, if you think anything you type reveals you to be "learned" then you ared even more stupid than I imagined. I'll tell you like tell all of the cyber bullies son, I'm in Omaha

 

[Unkotare]

The Liberals actually wanted to get West Virginians an education and teach them to do new things with better technology. Trump wants to go back to having mindless ants doing 40 years of hard labor, and at that end of the 40 years have nothing to show for it but poor health and no one in government that cares.

Have you gone to WV and told the mining community that they are nothing but "mindless ants" in your estimation? If you ever grow the balls to do so, let us know how it went. If you still can.

 

[Lewdog]

The Liberals actually wanted to get West Virginians an education and teach them to do new things with better technology. Trump wants to go back to having mindless ants doing 40 years of hard labor, and at that end of the 40 years have nothing to show for it but poor health and no one in government that cares.

Have you gone to WV and told the mining community that they are nothing but "mindless ants" in your estimation? If you ever grow the balls to do so, let us know how it went. If you still can.

Am I supposed to be scared? I live in Kentucky where coal mining is a big deal here too. Fact is, it is what it is. It's a dangerous job, but by no means does it take a rocket scientist to do it. Does it offend you that the truth is, these people carry out their task and then when they are in poor health they are all of a sudden disposable? They are then 50 years old with no higher education, and the thing that made them useful to corporation, a strong back, is no longer there? Should there be a reason that coal miners should have to hire a lawyer to win benefits for black lung? Trump wants to limit education... he wants to make it so that there are more worker ants.

 

[Bassman007]

I am very excited about Donald Trump's election.
If we come back and talk 1 year from now, how changed will West Virginia be 1 year from now, in terms of the economy? I am from WV and are very excited with the prospect of us having prosperity and filling up the mines with coal workers again.
Please predict how much our unemployment rate will decrease.

There will be new coal plants under construction, and coal being mined to burn............and the miners will be better off, however nothing can change the DNA of West Virginia

 

[Rustic]

I am very excited about Donald Trump's election.
If we come back and talk 1 year from now, how changed will West Virginia be 1 year from now, in terms of the ec

onomy? I am from WV and are very excited with the prospect of us having prosperity and filling up the mines with coal workers again.
Please predict how much our unemployment rate will decrease.

West Virginia will remain the same ignorant narrow-minded redneck peckerwood clusterfuck it has always been. Hillary wanted to bring West Virginia out of the Dark Ages. BTW, fuck coal power!

Washington Redskin, why the fuck do you care? It's best if you leave the firewater alone

 

[Rustic]

Most energy in the United States is produced by coal and the natural gas, and very little of it is produced by renewables. Renewables are not reliable much like a fucked up for politicians pushing that fucking shit… Fact
Lol

 

[Bassman007]

Most energy in the United States is produced by coal and the natural gas, and very little of it is produced by renewables. Renewables are not reliable much like a fucked up for politicians pushing that fucking shit… Fact
Lol

Windmills are killing millions of birds, condors hawks owls and smaller birds as well. Where are the naturist on this?

 

[Unkotare]

The Liberals actually wanted to get West Virginians an education and teach them to do new things with better technology. Trump wants to go back to having mindless ants doing 40 years of hard labor, and at that end of the 40 years have nothing to show for it but poor health and no one in government that cares.

Have you gone to WV and told the mining community that they are nothing but "mindless ants" in your estimation? If you ever grow the balls to do so, let us know how it went. If you still can.

Am I supposed to be scared? ...

Of course not, because you would never grow the balls to go say it to the American miners there. You're nothing but a toothless big-mouth on the internet who will never spout any of his bullshit in the real world, so what is there to be scared of for an empty pajama-suit like you?

 

[Unkotare]

... Trump wants to limit education... ...

When did he say that?

 

[Lewdog]

The Liberals actually wanted to get West Virginians an education and teach them to do new things with better technology. Trump wants to go back to having mindless ants doing 40 years of hard labor, and at that end of the 40 years have nothing to show for it but poor health and no one in government that cares.

Have you gone to WV and told the mining community that they are nothing but "mindless ants" in your estimation? If you ever grow the balls to do so, let us know how it went. If you still can.

Am I supposed to be scared? ...

Of course not, because you would never grow the balls to go say it to the American miners there. You're nothing but a toothless big-mouth on the internet who will never spout any of his bullshit in the real world, so what is there to be scared of for an empty pajama-suit like you?

Right... just like you spout off at the mouth over and over, but I bet you're a tough guy right? Would you come say it to MY face? Of course not.

 

[Coyote]

I am very excited about Donald Trump's election.
If we come back and talk 1 year from now, how changed will West Virginia be 1 year from now, in terms of the economy? I am from WV and are very excited with the prospect of us having prosperity and filling up the mines with coal workers again.
Please predict how much our unemployment rate will decrease.

I live in WV.

In terms of politics - I think the state will stay red. We're a conservative state and even when Democrat - it was conservative Dems.

The thing is though - the idea of "bringing coal back" is exactly the sort of short-sighted crap that lands us in the frying pan when the energy economy hits a bust and right now - we are in a huge bust, and it's not just due to clean energy regulations.

Coal is finite - that's a given. All the easily and cheaply accessable coal has been extracted. What's left requires more money for less gain to extract or can only be extracted at a very high environmental cost. If it's too expensive to extract, and there is too little profit in it - they're just going to sit on it. What's killing coal more is natural gas and fracking. Gas is cleaner. It's cheaper. It's more plentiful (though, that too is currently in a bust). The problem with the energy industries is that they are constantly going through a boom-bust cycle. That makes it tough to build a sustainable state economy based only on coal or gas or oil. We're in deep trouble now budgetwise because so much of our revenue was based on coal excise tax.

The problem in WV is the same problem other regions that have lost jobs have: automation. It's not just that jobs are sent overseas where labor is cheaper and regulations looser - it's that automation has replaced many operations that human workers formerly performed. So promises of bringing back manufacturing jobs at the rate they once had is not likely to come about. It's the same thing with coal jobs - automation has replaced many of those jobs.

I wish WV hadn't followed Trump's Pied Piper on this. Clinton had better ideas. We can't go back to a dependency on coal, we need to bring in new jobs, new industries and invest in training our workforce to meet those new challenges. Otherwise we are going to be left with ghost towns, an aging population, and little more than McFranchise jobs for your young people. Should they stay.

 

[Lewdog]

I am very excited about Donald Trump's election.
If we come back and talk 1 year from now, how changed will West Virginia be 1 year from now, in terms of the economy? I am from WV and are very excited with the prospect of us having prosperity and filling up the mines with coal workers again.
Please predict how much our unemployment rate will decrease.

I live in WV.

In terms of politics - I think the state will stay red. We're a conservative state and even when Democrat - it was conservative Dems.

The thing is though - the idea of "bringing coal back" is exactly the sort of short-sighted crap that lands us in the frying pan when the energy economy hits a bust and right now - we are in a huge bust, and it's not just due to clean energy regulations.

Coal is finite - that's a given. All the easily and cheaply accessable coal has been extracted. What's left requires more money for less gain to extract or can only be extracted at a very high environmental cost. If it's too expensive to extract, and there is too little profit in it - they're just going to sit on it. What's killing coal more is natural gas and fracking. Gas is cleaner. It's cheaper. It's more plentiful (though, that too is currently in a bust). The problem with the energy industries is that they are constantly going through a boom-bust cycle. That makes it tough to build a sustainable state economy based only on coal or gas or oil. We're in deep trouble now budgetwise because so much of our revenue was based on coal excise tax.

The problem in WV is the same problem other regions that have lost jobs have: automation. It's not just that jobs are sent overseas where labor is cheaper and regulations looser - it's that automation has replaced many operations that human workers formerly performed. So promises of bringing back manufacturing jobs at the rate they once had is not likely to come about. It's the same thing with coal jobs - automation has replaced many of those jobs.

I wish WV hadn't followed Trump's Pied Piper on this. Clinton had better ideas. We can't go back to a dependency on coal, we need to bring in new jobs, new industries and invest in training our workforce to meet those new challenges. Otherwise we are going to be left with ghost towns, an aging population, and little more than McFranchise jobs for your young people. Should they stay.

Not to mention a large generation of unhealthy people, who are dealing with several ailments that are coal mining related. Which means more health care is needed, which means higher health care costs.

 

[guno]

American coals biggest customers, china and India are moving away from coal, the market is shrinking , coal isn't coming back

 

[Unkotare]

... I bet you're a tough guy right?

I'm a man of peace.

Would you come say it to MY face? .....

If your face were nearby, I'd be only too happy to. Why not?

 

[Unkotare]

...china and India are moving away from coal.....

Talk about batshit stupid.

 

[Lewdog]

... I bet you're a tough guy right?

I'm a man of peace.

Would you come say it to MY face? .....

If your face were nearby, I'd be only too happy to. Why not?

Haha so your a tough guy only if someone else does the work for you? Got it. Coward.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Most energy in the United States is produced by coal and the natural gas, and very little of it is produced by renewables. Renewables are not reliable much like a fucked up for politicians pushing that fucking shit… Fact
Lol

Windmills are killing millions of birds, condors hawks owls and smaller birds as well. Where are the naturist on this?

Acid rain is healthful?

 

[Unkotare]

....

Haha so your [sic] a tough guy only if someone else does the work for you? .....

"work"? What work?