What Will Happen if Democrats Take Congress in Midterms?

[OldLady]

If you want to vote for a different President in 2020 - that is your right and I respect it. But seriously, voting for Democrats for the Senate or House in 2018 is a serious mistake by any voter.

If the Dems take the House and Senate this November all the American public will get for two years is attempted impeachment hearings against Trump... and we do NOT need two years of useless impeachment hearings just to accomplish what could be done in one election in 2020 anyway.

Here is the nitty-gritty, even if Trump is impeached in the House, that does not remove him from office - it only starts the hearings procedure. To remove him from office requires a supermajority (2/3 of voters present) of votes in the Senate, and even if the democrats sweep the 2018 midterms Trump will never be removed; because 2/3 of the 2018 Senate will never vote to remove Trump from office. That means impeachment now is nothing but a huge waste of time and your taxpayer dollars.

But would that stop the Dems from trying? No. Want to know more? Read the Constitution.

Impeachment: "The United States Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" (Article I, section 2) and that "the Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments .... [but] no person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present" (Article I, section 3).

Funny, after sampling a small portion of the President's rally in WV Friday night, I walked away saying for the first time, Impeach. He's got to be stopped, Paul. He is stoking the flames of partisan war and making things ten times worse, pulling along lots of people who don't know any better. The thunderous boos in the audience about the "Evil Dems" and all the crimes they are committing was absolutely frightening to me. What is he doing? Why?
Whatever the reason, he needs to be stopped. Look at Lindsay Graham, for God's sake, aping him in hopes of taking over for Jeff Sessions some say. And Kavanaugh's behavior at the hearing? All Trump tactics, some say.
It's revolting. If it were Dems doing it, I'd be saying EXACTLY the same thing.

Excuse me, you DO the same thing. Here. On this forum.

We're not supposed to notice?

Do I? I really try to be careful about that, for the most part, so I'm sorry I messed up.

 

[Polishprince]

If the D's take the House, the House will be doing hearings on every Trump family member and cabinet member out there back to back for 2 years, in between votes for impeaching one or another.

If the D's take the House, they'll be doing hearings and investigations as well, but no confirmations. That will definitely save Trump time he would have to take to interview people for appointments. If he really was pushed to make an appointment for a vacant job, it really wouldn't matter who it was as they wouldn't get confirmation anyhow.

 

[OnePercenter]

Over run by mexicans, muslims, prisons emptied, taxes raised, no jobs, faggots everywhere, pedos teaching in schools, regulations on everything, attempts to ban guns, civil war. you name it.

The use of ELD's in trucking have increased pay for Truck Drivers.

 

[OldLady]

Funny, after sampling a small portion of the President's rally in WV Friday night, I walked away saying for the first time, Impeach. He's got to be stopped, Paul. He is stoking the flames of partisan war and making things ten times worse, pulling along lots of people who don't know any better. The thunderous boos in the audience about the "Evil Dems" and all the crimes they are committing was absolutely frightening to me. What is he doing? Why?
Whatever the reason, he needs to be stopped. Look at Lindsay Graham, for God's sake, aping him in hopes of taking over for Jeff Sessions some say. And Kavanaugh's behavior at the hearing? All Trump tactics, some say.
It's revolting. If it were Dems doing it, I'd be saying EXACTLY the same thing.

I will only make one argument with you - the Dems ARE doing the same thing. Verbally assaulting citizens in restaurants and elevators; celebrities like Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump given a chance. Is that not as despicable as what the Trump supporters say at his rallies? What is worse, "Lock her up" or "When is the last time an Actor murdered a President?"

Without further arguing - I still say it makes more sense to wait until 2020. Impeachment hearings will accomplish nothing in the next two years. It would only double down on the partisanship you say you abhor in the post above. Vote Trump out in 2020 and let's not go through what we did in 1998 with Bill Clinton.

It becomes less likely that the Nazicrats will take the house with each day. The lynching of Brett Kavanaugh did not serve the Soros party the way the press implies.

The GOP will still pick up 6 seats in the Senate, and the much vaunted blue wave in the house is fizzling.

Even if the Democrats take the house, without the Senate the move is a non-starter. The Senate will simply refuse the impeachment by the house.

This is exactly right, but the goal of the democrats is not to really impeach, it is to impede. Old Lady doesn't like the partisanship, but she makes no mention if the policies and economic improvement we have seen.

I am not a Trump devotee at all - I find him somewhat comical and repugnant - very non-Presidential in his demeanor. But I try to ignore demeanor when it comes to politics because POLITICS IS NOT A BEAUTY CONTEST. It is our government at work. I fully support his policies, and while his actions are crude, the Democrats are really no better, with the lies they make up about conservatives being racist, sexist, Islamist, etc. (There is no proof of those charges, it is a lie they tell to try to get more votes, a pretty sad tactic really. No platform except "vote for us, because they are even worse.")

Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump
Hollywood folks are hollywood folks, and individuals I remind you. TRUMP, our PRESIDENT, the leader of our nation and a pretty large cult following, is saying about the Democrats:

When you see the anger, when you see people that are angry and mean and nasty and untruthful, when you look at releases and leaks and then they say, oh I didn't do it...The entire nation has witnessed the shameless conduct of the Democrat Party they're willing to throw away every standard of decency, justice, fairness and due process to get their way...The Democrat Party is radical socialism, Venezuela and open borders. ....It's the party of crime, what is and to pay for their socialism, which is going to destroy our country.
Transcript - FirstDraft - Speech: Donald Trump Holds a Political Rally in Wheeling, WV - September 29, 2018 | Factbase

That's just part of it.
Obama NEVER did this. I'm sure he attacked Republicans on their policy, but never ever like this.
Close to half the voters in this country are Dems. You can't damn the whole party like this. It's outrageous.

Under Obama organizations got rectal exams by gov't agencies for wanting 501c status...........Not just by the IRS, but by the FBI, ATF, OSHA, and others.........they cost these people a lot of money in these attacks...........fines..............audits...................all because they didn't believe in what the left believed in....................

So please don't tell me about how innocent Obama is..........that Horse Hockey............not to mention the dirty FBI investigation funded by the left............

We are a divided nation.........period..........probably hasn't been this bad since the civil war..............but it is reality.

I was speaking specifically about Trump's tactics of dividing us further, intentionally, in order to maintain control.
Fueling the hate. Encouraging his followers to call anyone who disagrees with them evil. What in hell is wrong with everyone that they can't see that? This is not about Obama; someone said Obama did the exact same thing. He DID NOT.

 

[OnePercenter]

Ain't gonna happen.....

You'd better hope so. tRump has reduced the middle class to "poor with credit."

 

[OldLady]

Funny, after sampling a small portion of the President's rally in WV Friday night, I walked away saying for the first time, Impeach. He's got to be stopped, Paul. He is stoking the flames of partisan war and making things ten times worse, pulling along lots of people who don't know any better. The thunderous boos in the audience about the "Evil Dems" and all the crimes they are committing was absolutely frightening to me. What is he doing? Why?
Whatever the reason, he needs to be stopped. Look at Lindsay Graham, for God's sake, aping him in hopes of taking over for Jeff Sessions some say. And Kavanaugh's behavior at the hearing? All Trump tactics, some say.
It's revolting. If it were Dems doing it, I'd be saying EXACTLY the same thing.

I will only make one argument with you - the Dems ARE doing the same thing. Verbally assaulting citizens in restaurants and elevators; celebrities like Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump given a chance. Is that not as despicable as what the Trump supporters say at his rallies? What is worse, "Lock her up" or "When is the last time an Actor murdered a President?"

Without further arguing - I still say it makes more sense to wait until 2020. Impeachment hearings will accomplish nothing in the next two years. It would only double down on the partisanship you say you abhor in the post above. Vote Trump out in 2020 and let's not go through what we did in 1998 with Bill Clinton.

It becomes less likely that the Nazicrats will take the house with each day. The lynching of Brett Kavanaugh did not serve the Soros party the way the press implies.

The GOP will still pick up 6 seats in the Senate, and the much vaunted blue wave in the house is fizzling.

Even if the Democrats take the house, without the Senate the move is a non-starter. The Senate will simply refuse the impeachment by the house.

This is exactly right, but the goal of the democrats is not to really impeach, it is to impede. Old Lady doesn't like the partisanship, but she makes no mention if the policies and economic improvement we have seen.

I am not a Trump devotee at all - I find him somewhat comical and repugnant - very non-Presidential in his demeanor. But I try to ignore demeanor when it comes to politics because POLITICS IS NOT A BEAUTY CONTEST. It is our government at work. I fully support his policies, and while his actions are crude, the Democrats are really no better, with the lies they make up about conservatives being racist, sexist, Islamist, etc. (There is no proof of those charges, it is a lie they tell to try to get more votes, a pretty sad tactic really. No platform except "vote for us, because they are even worse.")

Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump
Hollywood folks are hollywood folks, and individuals I remind you. TRUMP, our PRESIDENT, the leader of our nation and a pretty large cult following, is saying about the Democrats:

When you see the anger, when you see people that are angry and mean and nasty and untruthful, when you look at releases and leaks and then they say, oh I didn't do it...The entire nation has witnessed the shameless conduct of the Democrat Party they're willing to throw away every standard of decency, justice, fairness and due process to get their way...The Democrat Party is radical socialism, Venezuela and open borders. ....It's the party of crime, what is and to pay for their socialism, which is going to destroy our country.
Transcript - FirstDraft - Speech: Donald Trump Holds a Political Rally in Wheeling, WV - September 29, 2018 | Factbase

That's just part of it.
Obama NEVER did this. I'm sure he attacked Republicans on their policy, but never ever like this.
Close to half the voters in this country are Dems. You can't damn the whole party like this. It's outrageous.

Sweetheart, welcome to your own game turned on you via Trump.

Now you're "concerned" because of course you are. Liberals never, ever think any of the stuff can come back on them. Small thinkers, just too small. And there it is.

There is no need for that, Sue.

 

[SweetSue92]

Funny, after sampling a small portion of the President's rally in WV Friday night, I walked away saying for the first time, Impeach. He's got to be stopped, Paul. He is stoking the flames of partisan war and making things ten times worse, pulling along lots of people who don't know any better. The thunderous boos in the audience about the "Evil Dems" and all the crimes they are committing was absolutely frightening to me. What is he doing? Why?
Whatever the reason, he needs to be stopped. Look at Lindsay Graham, for God's sake, aping him in hopes of taking over for Jeff Sessions some say. And Kavanaugh's behavior at the hearing? All Trump tactics, some say.
It's revolting. If it were Dems doing it, I'd be saying EXACTLY the same thing.

I will only make one argument with you - the Dems ARE doing the same thing. Verbally assaulting citizens in restaurants and elevators; celebrities like Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump given a chance. Is that not as despicable as what the Trump supporters say at his rallies? What is worse, "Lock her up" or "When is the last time an Actor murdered a President?"

Without further arguing - I still say it makes more sense to wait until 2020. Impeachment hearings will accomplish nothing in the next two years. It would only double down on the partisanship you say you abhor in the post above. Vote Trump out in 2020 and let's not go through what we did in 1998 with Bill Clinton.

It becomes less likely that the Nazicrats will take the house with each day. The lynching of Brett Kavanaugh did not serve the Soros party the way the press implies.

The GOP will still pick up 6 seats in the Senate, and the much vaunted blue wave in the house is fizzling.

Even if the Democrats take the house, without the Senate the move is a non-starter. The Senate will simply refuse the impeachment by the house.

This is exactly right, but the goal of the democrats is not to really impeach, it is to impede. Old Lady doesn't like the partisanship, but she makes no mention if the policies and economic improvement we have seen.

I am not a Trump devotee at all - I find him somewhat comical and repugnant - very non-Presidential in his demeanor. But I try to ignore demeanor when it comes to politics because POLITICS IS NOT A BEAUTY CONTEST. It is our government at work. I fully support his policies, and while his actions are crude, the Democrats are really no better, with the lies they make up about conservatives being racist, sexist, Islamist, etc. (There is no proof of those charges, it is a lie they tell to try to get more votes, a pretty sad tactic really. No platform except "vote for us, because they are even worse.")

Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump
Hollywood folks are hollywood folks, and individuals I remind you. TRUMP, our PRESIDENT, the leader of our nation and a pretty large cult following, is saying about the Democrats:

When you see the anger, when you see people that are angry and mean and nasty and untruthful, when you look at releases and leaks and then they say, oh I didn't do it...The entire nation has witnessed the shameless conduct of the Democrat Party they're willing to throw away every standard of decency, justice, fairness and due process to get their way...The Democrat Party is radical socialism, Venezuela and open borders. ....It's the party of crime, what is and to pay for their socialism, which is going to destroy our country.
Transcript - FirstDraft - Speech: Donald Trump Holds a Political Rally in Wheeling, WV - September 29, 2018 | Factbase

That's just part of it.
Obama NEVER did this. I'm sure he attacked Republicans on their policy, but never ever like this.
Close to half the voters in this country are Dems. You can't damn the whole party like this. It's outrageous.

Thats what dems are: They've tacked hard left towards a fascist totalitarianism type rule. Lets not kid ourselves. This is what the dems are moving to.

They've been on this path for decades. Control of the SCOTUS is their primary vehicle for solidifying their takeover. That is why the Inquisition to destroy an innocent man BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

We need to stop this.

Innocent man? Are you talking about that sex offender drunk who, in his own words, "falls asleep"?

You can't think past the talking points, can you?

 

[OnePercenter]

That ship has sailed. Republicans are angry as hornets over Kavanaugh's treatment by piece of shit liberals.

Republicans are pissed because he got caught.

 

[eagle1462010]

Funny, after sampling a small portion of the President's rally in WV Friday night, I walked away saying for the first time, Impeach. He's got to be stopped, Paul. He is stoking the flames of partisan war and making things ten times worse, pulling along lots of people who don't know any better. The thunderous boos in the audience about the "Evil Dems" and all the crimes they are committing was absolutely frightening to me. What is he doing? Why?
Whatever the reason, he needs to be stopped. Look at Lindsay Graham, for God's sake, aping him in hopes of taking over for Jeff Sessions some say. And Kavanaugh's behavior at the hearing? All Trump tactics, some say.
It's revolting. If it were Dems doing it, I'd be saying EXACTLY the same thing.

I will only make one argument with you - the Dems ARE doing the same thing. Verbally assaulting citizens in restaurants and elevators; celebrities like Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump given a chance. Is that not as despicable as what the Trump supporters say at his rallies? What is worse, "Lock her up" or "When is the last time an Actor murdered a President?"

Without further arguing - I still say it makes more sense to wait until 2020. Impeachment hearings will accomplish nothing in the next two years. It would only double down on the partisanship you say you abhor in the post above. Vote Trump out in 2020 and let's not go through what we did in 1998 with Bill Clinton.

It becomes less likely that the Nazicrats will take the house with each day. The lynching of Brett Kavanaugh did not serve the Soros party the way the press implies.

The GOP will still pick up 6 seats in the Senate, and the much vaunted blue wave in the house is fizzling.

Even if the Democrats take the house, without the Senate the move is a non-starter. The Senate will simply refuse the impeachment by the house.

This is exactly right, but the goal of the democrats is not to really impeach, it is to impede. Old Lady doesn't like the partisanship, but she makes no mention if the policies and economic improvement we have seen.

I am not a Trump devotee at all - I find him somewhat comical and repugnant - very non-Presidential in his demeanor. But I try to ignore demeanor when it comes to politics because POLITICS IS NOT A BEAUTY CONTEST. It is our government at work. I fully support his policies, and while his actions are crude, the Democrats are really no better, with the lies they make up about conservatives being racist, sexist, Islamist, etc. (There is no proof of those charges, it is a lie they tell to try to get more votes, a pretty sad tactic really. No platform except "vote for us, because they are even worse.")

Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump
Hollywood folks are hollywood folks, and individuals I remind you. TRUMP, our PRESIDENT, the leader of our nation and a pretty large cult following, is saying about the Democrats:

When you see the anger, when you see people that are angry and mean and nasty and untruthful, when you look at releases and leaks and then they say, oh I didn't do it...The entire nation has witnessed the shameless conduct of the Democrat Party they're willing to throw away every standard of decency, justice, fairness and due process to get their way...The Democrat Party is radical socialism, Venezuela and open borders. ....It's the party of crime, what is and to pay for their socialism, which is going to destroy our country.
Transcript - FirstDraft - Speech: Donald Trump Holds a Political Rally in Wheeling, WV - September 29, 2018 | Factbase

That's just part of it.
Obama NEVER did this. I'm sure he attacked Republicans on their policy, but never ever like this.
Close to half the voters in this country are Dems. You can't damn the whole party like this. It's outrageous.

Under Obama organizations got rectal exams by gov't agencies for wanting 501c status...........Not just by the IRS, but by the FBI, ATF, OSHA, and others.........they cost these people a lot of money in these attacks...........fines..............audits...................all because they didn't believe in what the left believed in....................

So please don't tell me about how innocent Obama is..........that Horse Hockey............not to mention the dirty FBI investigation funded by the left............

We are a divided nation.........period..........probably hasn't been this bad since the civil war..............but it is reality.

I was speaking specifically about Trump's tactics of dividing us further, intentionally, in order to maintain control.
Fueling the hate. Encouraging his followers to call anyone who disagrees with them evil. What in hell is wrong with everyone that they can't see that? This is not about Obama; someone said Obama did the exact same thing. He DID NOT.

Trump hits back............it's always what he does...........and to me it's about time someone fired back on the leftist standard attack methods...........

You don't see us rioting at rallies to try and silence the left.........forcing riot police on to the scene.............You don't need tear gas......and a lot of people don't get sent to jail..............

Let's look at the tactics in the hearings..........70 were arrested trying to disrupt the hearings........yet when under Obama only a couple got arrested both times and they were anti abortion types.

Fueling the Hate..............the left has a lot of nerve on that subject...........we are tired of the BS..........and you know it.........

 

[SweetSue92]

If you want to vote for a different President in 2020 - that is your right and I respect it. But seriously, voting for Democrats for the Senate or House in 2018 is a serious mistake by any voter.

If the Dems take the House and Senate this November all the American public will get for two years is attempted impeachment hearings against Trump... and we do NOT need two years of useless impeachment hearings just to accomplish what could be done in one election in 2020 anyway.

Here is the nitty-gritty, even if Trump is impeached in the House, that does not remove him from office - it only starts the hearings procedure. To remove him from office requires a supermajority (2/3 of voters present) of votes in the Senate, and even if the democrats sweep the 2018 midterms Trump will never be removed; because 2/3 of the 2018 Senate will never vote to remove Trump from office. That means impeachment now is nothing but a huge waste of time and your taxpayer dollars.

But would that stop the Dems from trying? No. Want to know more? Read the Constitution.

Impeachment: "The United States Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" (Article I, section 2) and that "the Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments .... [but] no person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present" (Article I, section 3).

Funny, after sampling a small portion of the President's rally in WV Friday night, I walked away saying for the first time, Impeach. He's got to be stopped, Paul. He is stoking the flames of partisan war and making things ten times worse, pulling along lots of people who don't know any better. The thunderous boos in the audience about the "Evil Dems" and all the crimes they are committing was absolutely frightening to me. What is he doing? Why?
Whatever the reason, he needs to be stopped. Look at Lindsay Graham, for God's sake, aping him in hopes of taking over for Jeff Sessions some say. And Kavanaugh's behavior at the hearing? All Trump tactics, some say.
It's revolting. If it were Dems doing it, I'd be saying EXACTLY the same thing.

Excuse me, you DO the same thing. Here. On this forum.

We're not supposed to notice?

Do I? I really try to be careful about that, for the most part, so I'm sorry I messed up.

There is a mother on this forum with two grown children: a son and a daughter. Her daughter hates her for her Christian upbringing, won't have anything to do with her but yell F bombs in her face and run her down on Facebook. Her son is not much better. Her husband is gone. Now she has no spouse and two estranged children.

Your answer to this was basically oh well, things hurt when there's a new world order.

It's sickening. It's raging, black-heartedly evil. THAT Is your ideology, maybe not you, but this ideology you have bought into makes you think like this. Make no mistake about that.

 

[eagle1462010]

That ship has sailed. Republicans are angry as hornets over Kavanaugh's treatment by piece of shit liberals.

Republicans are pissed because he got caught.

BS..........the tactics used and the time line show me a political hit job.........they knew about this in July and don't sell me that snake oil that they didn't disclose it to protect Ford..............this was planned..........timed to delay this and effect the elections...........Leaked......your side is famous for it.

It's not over yet........the stall tactics will continue.........the FBI will do a quick report........the left will demand hearings on the report.......delays to study it........then after that.............Ford will then file a complaint to Maryland and muddy it up some more............right into the election cycle.......

This is a timed hit............period......and the Dems have done this before.

Should have came out in July..............and investigated at that time .............but that would have not played into the election..........and given more time for a replacement replacement if needed..................

 

[OldLady]

Funny, after sampling a small portion of the President's rally in WV Friday night, I walked away saying for the first time, Impeach. He's got to be stopped, Paul. He is stoking the flames of partisan war and making things ten times worse, pulling along lots of people who don't know any better. The thunderous boos in the audience about the "Evil Dems" and all the crimes they are committing was absolutely frightening to me. What is he doing? Why?
Whatever the reason, he needs to be stopped. Look at Lindsay Graham, for God's sake, aping him in hopes of taking over for Jeff Sessions some say. And Kavanaugh's behavior at the hearing? All Trump tactics, some say.
It's revolting. If it were Dems doing it, I'd be saying EXACTLY the same thing.

I will only make one argument with you - the Dems ARE doing the same thing. Verbally assaulting citizens in restaurants and elevators; celebrities like Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump given a chance. Is that not as despicable as what the Trump supporters say at his rallies? What is worse, "Lock her up" or "When is the last time an Actor murdered a President?"

Without further arguing - I still say it makes more sense to wait until 2020. Impeachment hearings will accomplish nothing in the next two years. It would only double down on the partisanship you say you abhor in the post above. Vote Trump out in 2020 and let's not go through what we did in 1998 with Bill Clinton.

It becomes less likely that the Nazicrats will take the house with each day. The lynching of Brett Kavanaugh did not serve the Soros party the way the press implies.

The GOP will still pick up 6 seats in the Senate, and the much vaunted blue wave in the house is fizzling.

Even if the Democrats take the house, without the Senate the move is a non-starter. The Senate will simply refuse the impeachment by the house.

This is exactly right, but the goal of the democrats is not to really impeach, it is to impede. Old Lady doesn't like the partisanship, but she makes no mention if the policies and economic improvement we have seen.

I am not a Trump devotee at all - I find him somewhat comical and repugnant - very non-Presidential in his demeanor. But I try to ignore demeanor when it comes to politics because POLITICS IS NOT A BEAUTY CONTEST. It is our government at work. I fully support his policies, and while his actions are crude, the Democrats are really no better, with the lies they make up about conservatives being racist, sexist, Islamist, etc. (There is no proof of those charges, it is a lie they tell to try to get more votes, a pretty sad tactic really. No platform except "vote for us, because they are even worse.")

Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump
Hollywood folks are hollywood folks, and individuals I remind you. TRUMP, our PRESIDENT, the leader of our nation and a pretty large cult following, is saying about the Democrats:

When you see the anger, when you see people that are angry and mean and nasty and untruthful, when you look at releases and leaks and then they say, oh I didn't do it...The entire nation has witnessed the shameless conduct of the Democrat Party they're willing to throw away every standard of decency, justice, fairness and due process to get their way...The Democrat Party is radical socialism, Venezuela and open borders. ....It's the party of crime, what is and to pay for their socialism, which is going to destroy our country.
Transcript - FirstDraft - Speech: Donald Trump Holds a Political Rally in Wheeling, WV - September 29, 2018 | Factbase

That's just part of it.
Obama NEVER did this. I'm sure he attacked Republicans on their policy, but never ever like this.
Close to half the voters in this country are Dems. You can't damn the whole party like this. It's outrageous.

Under Obama organizations got rectal exams by gov't agencies for wanting 501c status...........Not just by the IRS, but by the FBI, ATF, OSHA, and others.........they cost these people a lot of money in these attacks...........fines..............audits...................all because they didn't believe in what the left believed in....................

So please don't tell me about how innocent Obama is..........that Horse Hockey............not to mention the dirty FBI investigation funded by the left............

We are a divided nation.........period..........probably hasn't been this bad since the civil war..............but it is reality.

I was speaking specifically about Trump's tactics of dividing us further, intentionally, in order to maintain control.
Fueling the hate. Encouraging his followers to call anyone who disagrees with them evil. What in hell is wrong with everyone that they can't see that? This is not about Obama; someone said Obama did the exact same thing. He DID NOT.

Trump hits back............it's always what he does...........and to me it's about time someone fired back on the leftist standard attack methods...........

You don't see us rioting at rallies to try and silence the left.........forcing riot police on to the scene.............You don't need tear gas......and a lot of people don't get sent to jail..............

Let's look at the tactics in the hearings..........70 were arrested trying to disrupt the hearings........yet when under Obama only a couple got arrested both times and they were anti abortion types.

Fueling the Hate..............the left has a lot of nerve on that subject...........we are tired of the BS..........and you know it.........

I guess I wasn't clear enough. I was referring to what the President is doing. He cannot keep playing this game. Impeach.

 

[OldLady]

If you want to vote for a different President in 2020 - that is your right and I respect it. But seriously, voting for Democrats for the Senate or House in 2018 is a serious mistake by any voter.

If the Dems take the House and Senate this November all the American public will get for two years is attempted impeachment hearings against Trump... and we do NOT need two years of useless impeachment hearings just to accomplish what could be done in one election in 2020 anyway.

Here is the nitty-gritty, even if Trump is impeached in the House, that does not remove him from office - it only starts the hearings procedure. To remove him from office requires a supermajority (2/3 of voters present) of votes in the Senate, and even if the democrats sweep the 2018 midterms Trump will never be removed; because 2/3 of the 2018 Senate will never vote to remove Trump from office. That means impeachment now is nothing but a huge waste of time and your taxpayer dollars.

But would that stop the Dems from trying? No. Want to know more? Read the Constitution.

Impeachment: "The United States Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" (Article I, section 2) and that "the Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments .... [but] no person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present" (Article I, section 3).

Funny, after sampling a small portion of the President's rally in WV Friday night, I walked away saying for the first time, Impeach. He's got to be stopped, Paul. He is stoking the flames of partisan war and making things ten times worse, pulling along lots of people who don't know any better. The thunderous boos in the audience about the "Evil Dems" and all the crimes they are committing was absolutely frightening to me. What is he doing? Why?
Whatever the reason, he needs to be stopped. Look at Lindsay Graham, for God's sake, aping him in hopes of taking over for Jeff Sessions some say. And Kavanaugh's behavior at the hearing? All Trump tactics, some say.
It's revolting. If it were Dems doing it, I'd be saying EXACTLY the same thing.

Excuse me, you DO the same thing. Here. On this forum.

We're not supposed to notice?

Do I? I really try to be careful about that, for the most part, so I'm sorry I messed up.

There is a mother on this forum with two grown children: a son and a daughter. Her daughter hates her for her Christian upbringing, won't have anything to do with her but yell F bombs in her face and run her down on Facebook. Her son is not much better. Her husband is gone. Now she has no spouse and two estranged children.

Your answer to this was basically oh well, things hurt when there's a new world order.

It's sickening. It's raging, black-heartedly evil. THAT Is your ideology, maybe not you, but this ideology you have bought into makes you think like this. Make no mistake about that.

That is nowhere close to what I said. Never put words in my mouth like that, Sue.

 

[SweetSue92]

Funny, after sampling a small portion of the President's rally in WV Friday night, I walked away saying for the first time, Impeach. He's got to be stopped, Paul. He is stoking the flames of partisan war and making things ten times worse, pulling along lots of people who don't know any better. The thunderous boos in the audience about the "Evil Dems" and all the crimes they are committing was absolutely frightening to me. What is he doing? Why?
Whatever the reason, he needs to be stopped. Look at Lindsay Graham, for God's sake, aping him in hopes of taking over for Jeff Sessions some say. And Kavanaugh's behavior at the hearing? All Trump tactics, some say.
It's revolting. If it were Dems doing it, I'd be saying EXACTLY the same thing.

I will only make one argument with you - the Dems ARE doing the same thing. Verbally assaulting citizens in restaurants and elevators; celebrities like Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump given a chance. Is that not as despicable as what the Trump supporters say at his rallies? What is worse, "Lock her up" or "When is the last time an Actor murdered a President?"

Without further arguing - I still say it makes more sense to wait until 2020. Impeachment hearings will accomplish nothing in the next two years. It would only double down on the partisanship you say you abhor in the post above. Vote Trump out in 2020 and let's not go through what we did in 1998 with Bill Clinton.

It becomes less likely that the Nazicrats will take the house with each day. The lynching of Brett Kavanaugh did not serve the Soros party the way the press implies.

The GOP will still pick up 6 seats in the Senate, and the much vaunted blue wave in the house is fizzling.

Even if the Democrats take the house, without the Senate the move is a non-starter. The Senate will simply refuse the impeachment by the house.

This is exactly right, but the goal of the democrats is not to really impeach, it is to impede. Old Lady doesn't like the partisanship, but she makes no mention if the policies and economic improvement we have seen.

I am not a Trump devotee at all - I find him somewhat comical and repugnant - very non-Presidential in his demeanor. But I try to ignore demeanor when it comes to politics because POLITICS IS NOT A BEAUTY CONTEST. It is our government at work. I fully support his policies, and while his actions are crude, the Democrats are really no better, with the lies they make up about conservatives being racist, sexist, Islamist, etc. (There is no proof of those charges, it is a lie they tell to try to get more votes, a pretty sad tactic really. No platform except "vote for us, because they are even worse.")

Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump
Hollywood folks are hollywood folks, and individuals I remind you. TRUMP, our PRESIDENT, the leader of our nation and a pretty large cult following, is saying about the Democrats:

When you see the anger, when you see people that are angry and mean and nasty and untruthful, when you look at releases and leaks and then they say, oh I didn't do it...The entire nation has witnessed the shameless conduct of the Democrat Party they're willing to throw away every standard of decency, justice, fairness and due process to get their way...The Democrat Party is radical socialism, Venezuela and open borders. ....It's the party of crime, what is and to pay for their socialism, which is going to destroy our country.
Transcript - FirstDraft - Speech: Donald Trump Holds a Political Rally in Wheeling, WV - September 29, 2018 | Factbase

That's just part of it.
Obama NEVER did this. I'm sure he attacked Republicans on their policy, but never ever like this.
Close to half the voters in this country are Dems. You can't damn the whole party like this. It's outrageous.

Sweetheart, welcome to your own game turned on you via Trump.

Now you're "concerned" because of course you are. Liberals never, ever think any of the stuff can come back on them. Small thinkers, just too small. And there it is.

There is no need for that, Sue.

Welcome to that whirlwind Kavanaugh mentioned. And NOW you want to wring your hands and cry about what happened.

When you tick off the good people who run this country, sweetheart, you have poked a bear who is not going to sleep until the job is done and his belly is full. You can rest assured of that.

 

[eagle1462010]

I will only make one argument with you - the Dems ARE doing the same thing. Verbally assaulting citizens in restaurants and elevators; celebrities like Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump given a chance. Is that not as despicable as what the Trump supporters say at his rallies? What is worse, "Lock her up" or "When is the last time an Actor murdered a President?"

Without further arguing - I still say it makes more sense to wait until 2020. Impeachment hearings will accomplish nothing in the next two years. It would only double down on the partisanship you say you abhor in the post above. Vote Trump out in 2020 and let's not go through what we did in 1998 with Bill Clinton.

This is exactly right, but the goal of the democrats is not to really impeach, it is to impede. Old Lady doesn't like the partisanship, but she makes no mention if the policies and economic improvement we have seen.

I am not a Trump devotee at all - I find him somewhat comical and repugnant - very non-Presidential in his demeanor. But I try to ignore demeanor when it comes to politics because POLITICS IS NOT A BEAUTY CONTEST. It is our government at work. I fully support his policies, and while his actions are crude, the Democrats are really no better, with the lies they make up about conservatives being racist, sexist, Islamist, etc. (There is no proof of those charges, it is a lie they tell to try to get more votes, a pretty sad tactic really. No platform except "vote for us, because they are even worse.")

Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump
Hollywood folks are hollywood folks, and individuals I remind you. TRUMP, our PRESIDENT, the leader of our nation and a pretty large cult following, is saying about the Democrats:

When you see the anger, when you see people that are angry and mean and nasty and untruthful, when you look at releases and leaks and then they say, oh I didn't do it...The entire nation has witnessed the shameless conduct of the Democrat Party they're willing to throw away every standard of decency, justice, fairness and due process to get their way...The Democrat Party is radical socialism, Venezuela and open borders. ....It's the party of crime, what is and to pay for their socialism, which is going to destroy our country.
Transcript - FirstDraft - Speech: Donald Trump Holds a Political Rally in Wheeling, WV - September 29, 2018 | Factbase

That's just part of it.
Obama NEVER did this. I'm sure he attacked Republicans on their policy, but never ever like this.
Close to half the voters in this country are Dems. You can't damn the whole party like this. It's outrageous.

Under Obama organizations got rectal exams by gov't agencies for wanting 501c status...........Not just by the IRS, but by the FBI, ATF, OSHA, and others.........they cost these people a lot of money in these attacks...........fines..............audits...................all because they didn't believe in what the left believed in....................

So please don't tell me about how innocent Obama is..........that Horse Hockey............not to mention the dirty FBI investigation funded by the left............

We are a divided nation.........period..........probably hasn't been this bad since the civil war..............but it is reality.

I was speaking specifically about Trump's tactics of dividing us further, intentionally, in order to maintain control.
Fueling the hate. Encouraging his followers to call anyone who disagrees with them evil. What in hell is wrong with everyone that they can't see that? This is not about Obama; someone said Obama did the exact same thing. He DID NOT.

Trump hits back............it's always what he does...........and to me it's about time someone fired back on the leftist standard attack methods...........

You don't see us rioting at rallies to try and silence the left.........forcing riot police on to the scene.............You don't need tear gas......and a lot of people don't get sent to jail..............

Let's look at the tactics in the hearings..........70 were arrested trying to disrupt the hearings........yet when under Obama only a couple got arrested both times and they were anti abortion types.

Fueling the Hate..............the left has a lot of nerve on that subject...........we are tired of the BS..........and you know it.........

I guess I wasn't clear enough. I was referring to what the President is doing. He cannot keep playing this game. Impeach.

It's not a game............people's lives are being destroyed..............and the left is set to destroy him and anyone associated with him...........to an endless investigation that has proved no collusion....no ties to Russia...........the only ones being uncovered are the dirty tactics of the left.........and the ties to every segment of the investigation to them..............

Has nothing to do with Kav...........his history is totally on himself.................not Trump...........

This is a hit.................if they felt it was a real deal..............and they were concerned for Ford then they should have went to Maryland and filed a complaint on it..............and tried to keep it hidden...........that was clearly not their intent..................the intent is to stop a Supreme pick by any means necessary........

 

[SweetSue92]

If you want to vote for a different President in 2020 - that is your right and I respect it. But seriously, voting for Democrats for the Senate or House in 2018 is a serious mistake by any voter.

If the Dems take the House and Senate this November all the American public will get for two years is attempted impeachment hearings against Trump... and we do NOT need two years of useless impeachment hearings just to accomplish what could be done in one election in 2020 anyway.

Here is the nitty-gritty, even if Trump is impeached in the House, that does not remove him from office - it only starts the hearings procedure. To remove him from office requires a supermajority (2/3 of voters present) of votes in the Senate, and even if the democrats sweep the 2018 midterms Trump will never be removed; because 2/3 of the 2018 Senate will never vote to remove Trump from office. That means impeachment now is nothing but a huge waste of time and your taxpayer dollars.

But would that stop the Dems from trying? No. Want to know more? Read the Constitution.

Impeachment: "The United States Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" (Article I, section 2) and that "the Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments .... [but] no person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present" (Article I, section 3).

Funny, after sampling a small portion of the President's rally in WV Friday night, I walked away saying for the first time, Impeach. He's got to be stopped, Paul. He is stoking the flames of partisan war and making things ten times worse, pulling along lots of people who don't know any better. The thunderous boos in the audience about the "Evil Dems" and all the crimes they are committing was absolutely frightening to me. What is he doing? Why?
Whatever the reason, he needs to be stopped. Look at Lindsay Graham, for God's sake, aping him in hopes of taking over for Jeff Sessions some say. And Kavanaugh's behavior at the hearing? All Trump tactics, some say.
It's revolting. If it were Dems doing it, I'd be saying EXACTLY the same thing.

Excuse me, you DO the same thing. Here. On this forum.

We're not supposed to notice?

Do I? I really try to be careful about that, for the most part, so I'm sorry I messed up.

There is a mother on this forum with two grown children: a son and a daughter. Her daughter hates her for her Christian upbringing, won't have anything to do with her but yell F bombs in her face and run her down on Facebook. Her son is not much better. Her husband is gone. Now she has no spouse and two estranged children.

Your answer to this was basically oh well, things hurt when there's a new world order.

It's sickening. It's raging, black-heartedly evil. THAT Is your ideology, maybe not you, but this ideology you have bought into makes you think like this. Make no mistake about that.

That is nowhere close to what I said. Never put words in my mouth like that, Sue.

Here is exactly what you said:

Hey Feminists: 1860 called, it has fainting couches to sell you

 

[SweetSue92]

Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump
Hollywood folks are hollywood folks, and individuals I remind you. TRUMP, our PRESIDENT, the leader of our nation and a pretty large cult following, is saying about the Democrats:

When you see the anger, when you see people that are angry and mean and nasty and untruthful, when you look at releases and leaks and then they say, oh I didn't do it...The entire nation has witnessed the shameless conduct of the Democrat Party they're willing to throw away every standard of decency, justice, fairness and due process to get their way...The Democrat Party is radical socialism, Venezuela and open borders. ....It's the party of crime, what is and to pay for their socialism, which is going to destroy our country.
Transcript - FirstDraft - Speech: Donald Trump Holds a Political Rally in Wheeling, WV - September 29, 2018 | Factbase

That's just part of it.
Obama NEVER did this. I'm sure he attacked Republicans on their policy, but never ever like this.
Close to half the voters in this country are Dems. You can't damn the whole party like this. It's outrageous.

Under Obama organizations got rectal exams by gov't agencies for wanting 501c status...........Not just by the IRS, but by the FBI, ATF, OSHA, and others.........they cost these people a lot of money in these attacks...........fines..............audits...................all because they didn't believe in what the left believed in....................

So please don't tell me about how innocent Obama is..........that Horse Hockey............not to mention the dirty FBI investigation funded by the left............

We are a divided nation.........period..........probably hasn't been this bad since the civil war..............but it is reality.

I was speaking specifically about Trump's tactics of dividing us further, intentionally, in order to maintain control.
Fueling the hate. Encouraging his followers to call anyone who disagrees with them evil. What in hell is wrong with everyone that they can't see that? This is not about Obama; someone said Obama did the exact same thing. He DID NOT.

Trump hits back............it's always what he does...........and to me it's about time someone fired back on the leftist standard attack methods...........

You don't see us rioting at rallies to try and silence the left.........forcing riot police on to the scene.............You don't need tear gas......and a lot of people don't get sent to jail..............

Let's look at the tactics in the hearings..........70 were arrested trying to disrupt the hearings........yet when under Obama only a couple got arrested both times and they were anti abortion types.

Fueling the Hate..............the left has a lot of nerve on that subject...........we are tired of the BS..........and you know it.........

I guess I wasn't clear enough. I was referring to what the President is doing. He cannot keep playing this game. Impeach.

It's not a game............people's lives are being destroyed..............and the left is set to destroy him and anyone associated with him...........to an endless investigation that has proved no collusion....no ties to Russia...........the only ones being uncovered are the dirty tactics of the left.........and the ties to every segment of the investigation to them..............

Has nothing to do with Kav...........his history is totally on himself.................not Trump...........

This is a hit.................if they felt it was a real deal..............and they were concerned for Ford then they should have went to Maryland and filed a complaint on it..............and tried to keep it hidden...........that was clearly not their intent..................the intent is to stop a Supreme pick by any means necessary........

"You have to break a few eggs". That's their attitude. What do they care? They don't.

 

[OldLady]

Funny, after sampling a small portion of the President's rally in WV Friday night, I walked away saying for the first time, Impeach. He's got to be stopped, Paul. He is stoking the flames of partisan war and making things ten times worse, pulling along lots of people who don't know any better. The thunderous boos in the audience about the "Evil Dems" and all the crimes they are committing was absolutely frightening to me. What is he doing? Why?
Whatever the reason, he needs to be stopped. Look at Lindsay Graham, for God's sake, aping him in hopes of taking over for Jeff Sessions some say. And Kavanaugh's behavior at the hearing? All Trump tactics, some say.
It's revolting. If it were Dems doing it, I'd be saying EXACTLY the same thing.

Excuse me, you DO the same thing. Here. On this forum.

We're not supposed to notice?

Do I? I really try to be careful about that, for the most part, so I'm sorry I messed up.

There is a mother on this forum with two grown children: a son and a daughter. Her daughter hates her for her Christian upbringing, won't have anything to do with her but yell F bombs in her face and run her down on Facebook. Her son is not much better. Her husband is gone. Now she has no spouse and two estranged children.

Your answer to this was basically oh well, things hurt when there's a new world order.

It's sickening. It's raging, black-heartedly evil. THAT Is your ideology, maybe not you, but this ideology you have bought into makes you think like this. Make no mistake about that.

That is nowhere close to what I said. Never put words in my mouth like that, Sue.

Here is exactly what you said:

Hey Feminists: 1860 called, it has fainting couches to sell you

I said, Yes, you can't build a new Order without tearing down the old. What happened in your family is sad and I'm sorry for your pain. It isn't feminism to blame, though.
How you proceeded to figure that was "raging, black-heartedly evil" is beyond me.
I never know what to do with people like you. If I put you on ignore, I won't have to listen to your personal insults and fabrications, but if I put you on ignore, God knows what garbage you will say on this board. No one else will defend me, so I guess I have to.
It's sad alright that any of us have to do this.
Try to be accurate in what you are accusing people of, Sue.

 

[OnePercenter]

That ship has sailed. Republicans are angry as hornets over Kavanaugh's treatment by piece of shit liberals.

Republicans are pissed because he got caught.

BS..........the tactics used and the time line show me a political hit job.........they knew about this in July and don't sell me that snake oil that they didn't disclose it to protect Ford..............this was planned..........timed to delay this and effect the elections...........Leaked......your side is famous for it.

It's not over yet........the stall tactics will continue.........the FBI will do a quick report........the left will demand hearings on the report.......delays to study it........then after that.............Ford will then file a complaint to Maryland and muddy it up some more............right into the election cycle.......

This is a timed hit............period......and the Dems have done this before.

Should have came out in July..............and investigated at that time .............but that would have not played into the election..........and given more time for a replacement replacement if needed..................

You're writing of a "political hit job" like Bill Clinton?

Or possibly Hillary Clinton and e-mails.

 

[boedicca]

I will only make one argument with you - the Dems ARE doing the same thing. Verbally assaulting citizens in restaurants and elevators; celebrities like Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump given a chance. Is that not as despicable as what the Trump supporters say at his rallies? What is worse, "Lock her up" or "When is the last time an Actor murdered a President?"

Without further arguing - I still say it makes more sense to wait until 2020. Impeachment hearings will accomplish nothing in the next two years. It would only double down on the partisanship you say you abhor in the post above. Vote Trump out in 2020 and let's not go through what we did in 1998 with Bill Clinton.

This is exactly right, but the goal of the democrats is not to really impeach, it is to impede. Old Lady doesn't like the partisanship, but she makes no mention if the policies and economic improvement we have seen.

I am not a Trump devotee at all - I find him somewhat comical and repugnant - very non-Presidential in his demeanor. But I try to ignore demeanor when it comes to politics because POLITICS IS NOT A BEAUTY CONTEST. It is our government at work. I fully support his policies, and while his actions are crude, the Democrats are really no better, with the lies they make up about conservatives being racist, sexist, Islamist, etc. (There is no proof of those charges, it is a lie they tell to try to get more votes, a pretty sad tactic really. No platform except "vote for us, because they are even worse.")

Madonna, Kathy Griffin, Robert DeNiro and Sean Penn all insinuating they would ASSASSINATE Trump
Hollywood folks are hollywood folks, and individuals I remind you. TRUMP, our PRESIDENT, the leader of our nation and a pretty large cult following, is saying about the Democrats:

When you see the anger, when you see people that are angry and mean and nasty and untruthful, when you look at releases and leaks and then they say, oh I didn't do it...The entire nation has witnessed the shameless conduct of the Democrat Party they're willing to throw away every standard of decency, justice, fairness and due process to get their way...The Democrat Party is radical socialism, Venezuela and open borders. ....It's the party of crime, what is and to pay for their socialism, which is going to destroy our country.
Transcript - FirstDraft - Speech: Donald Trump Holds a Political Rally in Wheeling, WV - September 29, 2018 | Factbase

That's just part of it.
Obama NEVER did this. I'm sure he attacked Republicans on their policy, but never ever like this.
Close to half the voters in this country are Dems. You can't damn the whole party like this. It's outrageous.

Under Obama organizations got rectal exams by gov't agencies for wanting 501c status...........Not just by the IRS, but by the FBI, ATF, OSHA, and others.........they cost these people a lot of money in these attacks...........fines..............audits...................all because they didn't believe in what the left believed in....................

So please don't tell me about how innocent Obama is..........that Horse Hockey............not to mention the dirty FBI investigation funded by the left............

We are a divided nation.........period..........probably hasn't been this bad since the civil war..............but it is reality.

I was speaking specifically about Trump's tactics of dividing us further, intentionally, in order to maintain control.
Fueling the hate. Encouraging his followers to call anyone who disagrees with them evil. What in hell is wrong with everyone that they can't see that? This is not about Obama; someone said Obama did the exact same thing. He DID NOT.

Trump hits back............it's always what he does...........and to me it's about time someone fired back on the leftist standard attack methods...........

You don't see us rioting at rallies to try and silence the left.........forcing riot police on to the scene.............You don't need tear gas......and a lot of people don't get sent to jail..............

Let's look at the tactics in the hearings..........70 were arrested trying to disrupt the hearings........yet when under Obama only a couple got arrested both times and they were anti abortion types.

Fueling the Hate..............the left has a lot of nerve on that subject...........we are tired of the BS..........and you know it.........

I guess I wasn't clear enough. I was referring to what the President is doing. He cannot keep playing this game. Impeach.

No, let's not.