What will gender equality mean for military?

[AmyNation]

Do you (or anyone else) think that units or duties could be arranged differently so women's responsibilities aren't as dependent on physical strength as on other abilities?

At the base we are stationed they have an all female combat unit. It elminates a lot of the fears many have expressed about women in combat.

What do you mean that it has eliminated a lot of the fears about women in combat? I'm sorry, I just want to make sure that I understand what you mean.

Well, if you read over any one of the many threads on this subject you'll see a lot of fear about women in combat. Some of that fear has been, men won't treat females the same(either too tough or coddle) men can't stand to see women die, men can't handle sharing close space with women, women can't keep up with men, women can't carry a fallen male solider to safety.

An all female unit, elminates the possiblity of all of those fears.

 

[Katzndogz]

As soon as the standards are lowered, no one will have to lug a 180 pound weight, or run long distances. As long as the military is comfortable for the military members, that's all liberals ask.

It would really be nice if we could discuss a topic - any topic - once in a while without you whining about liberals. It's stupid and it makes you look like you're about five.


As for the topic, I think it will be a minor adjustment. I don't see why women can't be fit enough and strong enough to perform most tasks if they choose to.

I also hope the appalling record of the US Air Force on the raping of female cadets is improved.

Some people aren't smart enough to discuss a topic on it's merit, thus they deflect to politics....constantly.

It isn't politics. It is social engineering with the military being lab rats. Be real. There is no such thing as gender equality. Men will always be bigger and stronger. If there are a few women who can meet those standards women will be consistently under represented. Then the standards will have to be lowered. Who will demand lowering the standards to achieve an artificial gender equality? Liberals!

 

[Noelle]

At the base we are stationed they have an all female combat unit. It elminates a lot of the fears many have expressed about women in combat.

What do you mean that it has eliminated a lot of the fears about women in combat? I'm sorry, I just want to make sure that I understand what you mean.

Well, if you read over any one of the many threads on this subject you'll see a lot of fear about women in combat. Some of that fear has been, men won't treat females the same(either too tough or coddle) men can't stand to see women die, men can't handle sharing close space with women, women can't keep up with men, women can't carry a fallen male solider to safety.

An all female unit, elminates the possiblity of all of those fears.

That's what I thought you meant. Thank you for clarifying that for me.

 

[shlnme]

So I see a lot of people saying that they're not sure about women's capabilities on the front line, with the exception of all female units. With that in mind, do you think women will or should start being required to register for selective service? It seems like there would be a double standard without it, but on the other hand I can't say I'd want to be drafted. . .

 

[ArmyCowboy]

Though it is great that the ban has been lifted, there are still some things to think about. Men's bodies are more physically fit, in general, compared to women. I don't mean to sound sexist, what I mean is that women's physical health will deteriorate at a faster rates than men's.

I think this is a problem. Clearly if women's health deteriorates faster, they won't be able to serve as long without serious repercussions. I think women can be equal in someways, but it might be impossible to do so in the military for the sake of their well-being.

Do you (or anyone else) think that units or duties could be arranged differently so women's responsibilities aren't as dependent on physical strength as on other abilities?

At the base we are stationed they have an all female combat unit. It elminates a lot of the fears many have expressed about women in combat.

Where are you stationed?

Never heard of anything like that before.

 

[AmyNation]

Do you (or anyone else) think that units or duties could be arranged differently so women's responsibilities aren't as dependent on physical strength as on other abilities?

At the base we are stationed they have an all female combat unit. It elminates a lot of the fears many have expressed about women in combat.

Where are you stationed?

Never heard of anything like that before.

The day they announced the lift on the combat ban my husbands base unveiled(on facebook) the all female combat unit. They had,obviously, never been deployed together but had been training in anticipation of the lift

 

[aplcr0331]

At the base we are stationed they have an all female combat unit. It elminates a lot of the fears many have expressed about women in combat.

Where are you stationed?

Never heard of anything like that before.

The day they announced the lift on the combat ban my husbands base unveiled(on facebook) the all female combat unit. They had,obviously, never been deployed together but had been training in anticipation of the lift

Since its on Facebook, please provide the link. We're interested.

 

[AmyNation]

Where are you stationed?

Never heard of anything like that before.

The day they announced the lift on the combat ban my husbands base unveiled(on facebook) the all female combat unit. They had,obviously, never been deployed together but had been training in anticipation of the lift

Since its on Facebook, please provide the link. We're interested.

Yeah, no.

I don't really care if you choose to be skeptical about it, but I'm not going to give out what amounts to my address to a bunch of strangers on the Internet

 

[aplcr0331]

The day they announced the lift on the combat ban my husbands base unveiled(on facebook) the all female combat unit. They had,obviously, never been deployed together but had been training in anticipation of the lift

Since its on Facebook, please provide the link. We're interested.

Yeah, no.

I don't really care if you choose to be skeptical about it, but I'm not going to give out what amounts to my address to a bunch of strangers on the Internet

I'm not skeptical, I think you are full of shit. You are asserting that there was an Army unit out there that was in direct disobedience of a DoD rule (No Women in combat arms jobs) secretly training and all female unit so that as soon as woman were allowed in combat jobs they could go "ta-da" we have an all female combat unit!

Um, no. I mean it's your lie you can tell it however you wish, but you are lying. The ban was lifted, but the plans are not to take effect until 2016, according to DefSec Pannetta. The services have to develop plans for how they are going to integrate females into combat arms units.

There's no all female combat arms mos.

Calling something combat does not make it so.

 

[AmyNation]

No one was in disobedience of the DOD The lift on combat bans has been in the works for awhile and those in the military knew it was coming. Again, you can choose to believe or not, but you arent going to goad me into telling you where I live to "prove" that indeed the military has been preparing for the lift and that an all female unit is trained and ready.

 

[aplcr0331]

No one was in disobedience of the DOD The lift on combat bans has been in the works for awhile and those in the military knew it was coming. Again, you can choose to believe or not, but you arent going to goad me into telling you where I live to "prove" that indeed the military has been preparing for the lift and that an all female unit is trained and ready.

Nobody is asking where you live. I'm asking for you to tell me the name of this newly unveiled all female combat arms unit. That's it. You give me the unit name, and I'll do the rest.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

No one was in disobedience of the DOD The lift on combat bans has been in the works for awhile and those in the military knew it was coming. Again, you can choose to believe or not, but you arent going to goad me into telling you where I live to "prove" that indeed the military has been preparing for the lift and that an all female unit is trained and ready.

Love you to death Amy, but after 20 years of doing this, this story doesn't really ring very true.

Sounds like you've been taken in by a little bit of a hoax.

 

[AmyNation]

No one was in disobedience of the DOD The lift on combat bans has been in the works for awhile and those in the military knew it was coming. Again, you can choose to believe or not, but you arent going to goad me into telling you where I live to "prove" that indeed the military has been preparing for the lift and that an all female unit is trained and ready.

Love you to death Amy, but after 20 years of doing this, this story doesn't really ring very true.

Sounds like you've been taken in by a little bit of a hoax.

I'm ok with you thinking that.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

No one was in disobedience of the DOD The lift on combat bans has been in the works for awhile and those in the military knew it was coming. Again, you can choose to believe or not, but you arent going to goad me into telling you where I live to "prove" that indeed the military has been preparing for the lift and that an all female unit is trained and ready.

Love you to death Amy, but after 20 years of doing this, this story doesn't really ring very true.

Sounds like you've been taken in by a little bit of a hoax.

I'm ok with you thinking that.

And for the record, I meant no disrespect when I posted that.

 

[aplcr0331]

None of these searches worked for me:

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all "female combat" unit site:facebook.com

all "female combat unit" site:facebook.com

all female combat unit site:*.mil

all female combat unit site:*.mil

all "female" "combat" unit site:*.mil

all "female combat" unit site:*.mil

all "female combat unit" site:*.mil

 

[AmyNation]

Although I will say, I find it humorous that an all female engagement unit is too crazy to be believable to some.

 

[Noelle]

So I see a lot of people saying that they're not sure about women's capabilities on the front line, with the exception of all female units. With that in mind, do you think women will or should start being required to register for selective service? It seems like there would be a double standard without it, but on the other hand I can't say I'd want to be drafted. . .

I think it could happen in the future, but I don't think you can say for sure. I know what you mean, it seems like it would be a double standard, but at the same time, if there were a situation that required a draft, I don't think it would make sense to send every eligible person into a war situation. It's a very difficult topic, which is why nothing has really been done about it.

 

[bodecea]

The next step is for the men and women to shower and bunk together, since we are all equal and stuff.

I see you drooling there.

 

[Katzndogz]

The military is going to have to either recognize female limitations, or get used to having a lot of women leave combat units.

There are things women can do and things they can't. Saying that women can be effective in situations requiring brute force doesn't actually make them effective.

 

[bodecea]

Now that the women-in-combat ban has been lifted, senator Rangel has proposed expanding the draft to include women. Others are concerned with changing standards for different units to accommodate physical differences between men and women, and think that women should still have separate roles, though potentially still in combat positions. I've been considering enlisting for a while now, and with these changes I have no idea what to expect. Do you think we could/should see policies like these coming soon?

Though it is great that the ban has been lifted, there are still some things to think about. Men's bodies are more physically fit, in general, compared to women. I don't mean to sound sexist, what I mean is that women's physical health will deteriorate at a faster rates than men's.

I think this is a problem. Clearly if women's health deteriorates faster, they won't be able to serve as long without serious repercussions. I think women can be equal in someways, but it might be impossible to do so in the military for the sake of their well-being.

Men, generally, are stronger...but women have more endurance. And maybe some people are really upset about women being trained in weapons and confident about defending themselves. That would give some men the Willies, I'm sure.