What Was And What Will Be

[PoliticalChic]

A woman has an abortion and you, knowing all the details, agrees she made the right decision.

I don't follow you, but there's absolutely no medical justification for the abortion of gestationally viable fetuses.

PoliticalChic would never cite any case where abortion is reasonable, moral, ethical, desirable, etc. Can you?

Even a leading group opposing abortion, the National Right to Life Committee, issued a statement saying that its position is "to allow abortion if necessary to prevent the death of the mother."

Are you agreeing that 98.5% of all abortions are done for nothing more than convenience?

Because that is a fact.


The very reason you are still alive is that I don't believe in bumping off irritants for the sake of convenience.

So are you OK with those 1.5% of all abortions?

So you oppose 98.5% of all abortions?

And you will never again make the mistake of voting Wehrmacht......er, Democrat?

 

[alang1216]

A woman has an abortion and you, knowing all the details, agrees she made the right decision.

I don't follow you, but there's absolutely no medical justification for the abortion of gestationally viable fetuses.

PoliticalChic would never cite any case where abortion is reasonable, moral, ethical, desirable, etc. Can you?

Even a leading group opposing abortion, the National Right to Life Committee, issued a statement saying that its position is "to allow abortion if necessary to prevent the death of the mother."

Are you agreeing that 98.5% of all abortions are done for nothing more than convenience?

Because that is a fact.


The very reason you are still alive is that I don't believe in bumping off irritants for the sake of convenience.

So are you OK with those 1.5% of all abortions?

So you oppose 98.5% of all abortions?

And you will never again make the mistake of voting Wehrmacht......er, Democrat?

Here is how to answer to a question:
"So you oppose 98.5% of all abortions?" No I do not. Since I don't consider a fertilized egg to be a human being, I don't oppose aborting such if that is the decision of the mother.

Now you try it:
Do you oppose the 1.5% of abortions that are not done for convenience?

 

[busybee01]

Most of your list are just silly lies, not worthy of a response but you did mention 'infanticide', by which I assume you meant abortion. I presume you know the difference between an infant and a fetus so I'll just ignore your childish spin (get it?).

The fact is that nearly 7 in 10 Americans do not want the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade, the landmark ruling that established the right to abortion, according to a poll released Tuesday on the 47th anniversary of the decision.

Shockingly, you and Trump, seem to be outside the norm, one might say you are both abnormal.

She means abortion on demand, sport. There are in fact instances, though extremely rare, in which pregnancies must be terminated for real medical reasons.

That's why she used the term infanticide, you know, to denote the practice of murdering young human beings for the sake of convenience, sport and profit.

fe·tus
/ˈfēdəs/

noun

1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

You may know what she means, I only know what she said. So far as I recall PoliticalChic has never said that ANY abortion was justified. Let's see if she weighs in or hides out.

Her focus in her post was on late-term abortions. She indicated that they are included in the "for the sake of convenience, sport and profit" category and I think that is a distortion of the facts. Something routinely done by her. It is hard to imagine a pregnant women carrying a baby for 9 months only to decide she's changed her mind. It's also hard to imagine any doctor agreeing to it. I'd wager that in the vast majority of cases there are severe medical problems that jeopardize either the mother the baby or both.

When does a human life begin?

Scientifically when does a life begin?

The moment that the new human being's DNA is formed.

They'll teach you that when you get to Junior High School


"An individual human life begins at conception when a sperm cell from the father fuses with an egg cell from the mother, to form a new cell, the zygote, the first embryonic stage. The zygote grows and divides into two daughter cells, each of which grows and divides into two grand-daughter cells, and this cell growth/division process continues on, over and over again. The zygote is the start of a biological continuum that automatically grows and develops, passing gradually and sequentially through the stages we call foetus, baby, child, adult, old person and ending eventually in death. The full genetic instructions to guide the development of the continuum, in interaction with its environment, are present in the zygote. Every stage along the continuum is biologically human and each point along the continuum has the full human properties appropriate to that point." - Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland

Apparently you didn't get that far.

There are many definitions of when a human life begins. You seem to say that life begins at conception. I don't necessarily believe that.

“Many scientists would say they don’t know when life begins. There are a series of landmark moments,” said Arthur Caplan, professor and founding head of the Division of Medical Ethics at New York University Langone Medical Center. “The first is conception, the second is the development of the spine, the third the development of the brain, consciousness, and so on.” That perspective, it turns out, has deep roots. It’s also one that resonates for many pregnant women who experience the embryo’s gradual passage to personhood on a visceral level.

* * *

Many religious traditions, including a number of denominations of Christianity, are ambivalent about the beginnings of life. The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and many American Baptists don’t believe abortion is akin to murder. Presbyterians concede that they “may not know exactly when human life begins” and encourage their followers to make their own careful decisions on abortion. Unitarians are more overtly pro-choice and “believe not only in the value of life itself but also in the quality of life.”

When does life begin? Outside the Christian right, the answer is “over time.” (slate.com)

 

[busybee01]

6. Democrats have a particular propensity to view themselves as monarchs rather than the more American concept of what a President is.


Rather than the messy legislative system in which elected officials write laws, we have this view:

“We’re not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we’re providing Americans the kind of help they need. I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone,” Obama said…”

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It echoes what Roosevelt, the socialist godfather of the Democrats said earlier about no need to heed the Constitution:

In July 5, 1935, in a letter to Representative Samuel B. Hill of Washington, the President manifested his contempt for the Constitution. Hill was chairman of the subcommittee studying the Guffey-Vinson bill to regulate the coal industry: the purpose of the legislation was to re-establish, for the coal industry, the NRA code system which the Supreme Court had unanimously declared unconstitutional. Roosevelt wrote: "I hope your committee will not permit doubts as to constitutionality, however reasonable, to block the legislation."

Letter to Representative Samuel B. Hill on H.R. 8479. | The American Presidency Project

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So, how do Democrats govern without the rest of the mechanisms of government????

“President Executive Order: Biden Has Signed A Record 33 In One Week

Biden has signed more than three times as many orders as the previous four Presidents COMBINED.” President Executive Order: Biden Has Signed A Record 33 In One Week

Guess who said....

"you can't use executive orders unless you are a dictator."
Posted Tuesday, January 26, 2021, at 6:39 PM
You will have to search far and wide for news media quoting Joe Biden about the use of executive orders. It was out there in October but seems to have been scrubbed quite well, since he has taken over the Presidency and is using EXECUTIVE ORDERS. Just found it interesting.
"Former United States Vice President Joe Biden, who is running against President Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election, said that he would not use executive orders to implement his policies because "you can't use executive orders unless you are a dictator.""
" The comments came as he was asked about his tax policy and if it would be a priority. Biden said that he would depend on the votes in Congress but stressed that raising taxes would help the US economy grow more than it would under a second Trump term. " Huh? Would that be a healthy growth or something temporary?"

"you can't use executive orders unless you are a dictator."

You will have to search far and wide for news media quoting Joe Biden about the use of executive orders. It was out there in October but seems to have been scrubbed quite well, since he has taken over the Presidency and is using EXECUTIVE ORDERS. Just found it interesting...

www.t-g.com

Guess what...

You are a liar. Biden never said the use of executive orders made you a dictator. He was responding to a question about tax policy and said EOs cannot be used for that. He even stated he would sign several EOs on his first day in office. He clearly recognizes the limits of EOs.

" Biden never said the use of executive orders made you a dictator."


Watch this:



Guess who said....



"you can't use executive orders unless you are a dictator."

Posted Tuesday, January 26, 2021, at 6:39 PM

You will have to search far and wide for news media quoting Joe Biden about the use of executive orders. It was out there in October but seems to have been scrubbed quite well, since he has taken over the Presidency and is using EXECUTIVE ORDERS. Just found it interesting.

"Former United States Vice President Joe Biden, who is running against President Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election, said that he would not use executive orders to implement his policies because "you can't use executive orders unless you are a dictator.""

" The comments came as he was asked about his tax policy and if it would be a priority. Biden said that he would depend on the votes in Congress but stressed that raising taxes would help the US economy grow more than it would under a second Trump term. " Huh? Would that be a healthy growth or something temporary?"

"you can't use executive orders unless you are a dictator."

You will have to search far and wide for news media quoting Joe Biden about the use of executive orders. It was out there in October but seems to have been scrubbed quite well, since he has taken over the Presidency and is using EXECUTIVE ORDERS. Just found it interesting...

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in October: “I have this strange notion, we are a democracy … if you can’t get the votes … you can’t [legislate] by executive order unless you’re a dictator. We’re a democracy. We need consensus."

Try using his own quote rather than slicing and dicing it.

Stephanopoulos said, "So there's not going to be any delay on the tax increases."

""No, well, I've gotta get the votes. I gotta get the votes. That's why -- you know, the one thing that I -- I have this strange notion. We are a democracy. Some of my Republican friends and some of my Democratic friends even, occasionally say, 'Well, if you can't get the votes, by executive order you're going to do something.' Things you can't do by executive order unless you're a dictator. We're a democracy. We need consensus."

He specifically said "Things you can't do by executive order". Tax policy cannot be changed by EO and that was the thing that Biden was referring to.

"Try using his own quote rather than slicing and dicing it."

Sure thing:







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Apparently you can't understand english. You proved MY point. Biden was asked about tax policy and he stated you can't change tax policy by EO. That is true unlike you.

Did Biden say that it takes a dictator to govern by executive order?

Yup.....that's what he said.


"you can't use executive orders unless you are a dictator."

Posted Tuesday, January 26, 2021, at 6:39 PM

You will have to search far and wide for news media quoting Joe Biden about the use of executive orders. It was out there in October but seems to have been scrubbed quite well, since he has taken over the Presidency and is using EXECUTIVE ORDERS. Just found it interesting.

"Former United States Vice President Joe Biden, who is running against President Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election, said that he would not use executive orders to implement his policies because "you can't use executive orders unless you are a dictator.""

" The comments came as he was asked about his tax policy and if it would be a priority. Biden said that he would depend on the votes in Congress but stressed that raising taxes would help the US economy grow more than it would under a second Trump term. " Huh? Would that be a healthy growth or something temporary?"

"you can't use executive orders unless you are a dictator."

You will have to search far and wide for news media quoting Joe Biden about the use of executive orders. It was out there in October but seems to have been scrubbed quite well, since he has taken over the Presidency and is using EXECUTIVE ORDERS. Just found it interesting...

www.t-g.com

Remember the last time you were correct about anything????


Me neither.


Hence.....you are perfect as either a Democrat voter, or an organ donor.

When is the last thing you were right about anything? Never. You clip and paste Biden's comments to make them say what you want them to say. You are a dishonest liar. Here is what he said.

" Things you can’t do by executive order unless you are a dictator. "

This is exactly what he said. This is your quote.

"you can't use executive orders unless you are a dictator."

You are the proven liar.

 

[busybee01]

your voters cannot either explain any Trump policies they voted against......
....or Biden policies they voted for.

What you mean is that you don't understand how anyone can have values that differ from yours. Your lack of understanding does not reflect on me so much as it does on you. You should try to do better.

Nay, nay......normal people have the value that I have.

Watch:

Now......which of these parts of the Democrat Party's agenda represent 'normal' values????


The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,
socialism,
infanticide,
opposition to free speech,
substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,
support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,
accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,
and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.


And, perhaps you can offer your analysis of which Trump values you reject?

Most of your list are just silly lies, not worthy of a response but you did mention 'infanticide', by which I assume you meant abortion. I presume you know the difference between an infant and a fetus so I'll just ignore your childish spin (get it?).

The fact is that nearly 7 in 10 Americans do not want the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade, the landmark ruling that established the right to abortion, according to a poll released Tuesday on the 47th anniversary of the decision.

Shockingly, you and Trump, seem to be outside the norm, one might say you are both abnormal.

"Most of your list are just silly lies, not worthy of a response but you did mention 'infanticide', by which I assume you meant abortion."

No, I mean 'infanticide.'






A major, and dispositive, difference between civilized folks and you Wehrmacht voters is respect for human life.


1. Democrat Virginia Governor, and medical doctor, Northam, adhered to and explained that Democrat principle, here: "If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die.” Fake News: Liberal Rag Says Trump Lied About VA Governor's Support For After Birth Abortion. Uh, There's Tape.



Do you need the definition of 'infanticide'?


“What happens when the mother and doctor decide not to let the infant live?
Do they withhold care and let the infant die on its own or do they kill the infant? And how?
The media claims Trump’s comment is incorrect, but no one in the abortion industry will answer the question.” What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.





2. "Exactly zero Democratic senators voted to protect pain-capable children? Have they not been paying attention to the laws in states like Illinois, New Mexico, New York, Vermont, and Virginia? The Democratic governor of Virginia — a man considered a moderate in his party — proved on live radio that the Post’s description is inaccurate.

A born, living human being—with no human rights. That is the position of the Democratic Party. The Democratic platform calls for worldwide, unlimited, taxpayer-funded elective abortion on demand. Not only that, but the Democratic establishment also promises a litmus test for federal judges who will rule without fail for elective abortion on demand, no matter what the law or facts provide. The Democratic establishment is a hotbed of abortion extremism the likes of which we have never before seen on a national scale.”
Washington Post Lies About Democratic Party’s Support For Infanticide





3. The Democrat administration in Virginia offered a law for...in favor of....infanticide....stopped by Republicans.

The Democrat governor of Virginia actually agreed with the bill for infanticide.



4. "New York abortion law changes allow infanticide"
New York abortion law changes allow infanticide



5. "Anti-infanticide bill blocked by Senate Democrats"
Senate Democrats block Republicans’ anti-infanticide bill





6. And, as several states now allow abortion up to the moment of birth,… “The state of New York recently passed a horrific new abortion law removing almost all previous restrictions. The law now allows abortions to be performed up to the point of natural birth by physicians and also by some non-physician health care practitioners. It also removes protections for babies who accidentally survive an abortion procedure.”
New York abortion law changes allow infanticide





7.” In progressive Pennsylvania, here was a doctor, Kermit Gosnell, an African-American, he’s in his early 70s now, who ran an abortion clinic for 30 years, where he routinely, and these are not my words, this is the grand jury’s words, where he routinely delivered babies alive and then cut their necks with scissors.



And he did this for 30 years. That’s why in the eyes of the grand jury and also ABC’s Terry Moran, he was described as America’s biggest serial killer,…”

The True Story of Kermit Gosnell and His Victims





“…in the Kermit Gosnell trial (which received very little media attention), eye-witnesses testified that babies were moving and breathing before their spinal cords were cut; others were flushed in toilets or were thrown in the garbage with a shoebox for a coffin--while still alive inside!

The fact is, babies can survive abortion attempts.



The CDC tells us that, between 2003-2014, at least 143 infants died after being born alive during an abortion procedure, and the report even admits that this number is underestimated.



That’s an average of one infant a month! According to the report, some of these infants hung on to life for more than 24 hours after the induced abortion before they died!”
What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.





8. To prove that the Democrats are the assassins, the Republicans have a plan to make them reveal it:

"Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) introduced the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which would provide medical care to babies born after botched abortions. Doctors would be required to provide medical care to a baby who survived an abortion, just as they would with any other patient. If doctors failed to provide care he or she would face criminal charges.

"I want to ask each and every one of my colleagues whether or not we're OK with infanticide," Sasse asked his colleagues.
But when the bill came to the Senate floor for a vote on Monday, Democrats filibustered."

Disgusting: Dems Prove, Once Again, They Support Infanticide With Their Latest Filibuster



Filibustered to defeat the proposal….exactly what the Democrats did to stop the attempts by the Republicans to get the vote for women (1919) and the same ploy the Democrats used to block every anti-lynching law (1920-1940).



"...all six Democrats running for president in 2020 voted against the bill. The list includes Sens. Cory Booker (NJ), Sherrod Brown (OH), Kirsten Gillibrand (NY), Kamala Harris (CA.), Amy Klobuchar (MN), and Elizabeth Warren (MA.). Independent Bernie Sanders (VT) also voted in line with Democrats." Ibid.

You people use the word infanticide to stir up ignorant people. Abortions should be ended by convincing women not to have abortions not by laws that in some cases jail women for having abortions. That makes you a dictator.

"You people use the word infanticide to stir up ignorant people."


So, you're claiming that this 'stirred you up'?????


A major, and dispositive, difference between civilized folks and you Wehrmacht voters is respect for human life.


1. Democrat Virginia Governor, and medical doctor, Northam, adhered to and explained that Democrat principle, here: "If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die.” Fake News: Liberal Rag Says Trump Lied About VA Governor's Support For After Birth Abortion. Uh, There's Tape.



Do you need the definition of 'infanticide'?


“What happens when the mother and doctor decide not to let the infant live?
Do they withhold care and let the infant die on its own or do they kill the infant? And how?
The media claims Trump’s comment is incorrect, but no one in the abortion industry will answer the question.” What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.





2. "Exactly zero Democratic senators voted to protect pain-capable children? Have they not been paying attention to the laws in states like Illinois, New Mexico, New York, Vermont, and Virginia? The Democratic governor of Virginia — a man considered a moderate in his party — proved on live radio that the Post’s description is inaccurate.

A born, living human being—with no human rights. That is the position of the Democratic Party. The Democratic platform calls for worldwide, unlimited, taxpayer-funded elective abortion on demand. Not only that, but the Democratic establishment also promises a litmus test for federal judges who will rule without fail for elective abortion on demand, no matter what the law or facts provide. The Democratic establishment is a hotbed of abortion extremism the likes of which we have never before seen on a national scale.”
Washington Post Lies About Democratic Party’s Support For Infanticide





3. The Democrat administration in Virginia offered a law for...in favor of....infanticide....stopped by Republicans.

The Democrat governor of Virginia actually agreed with the bill for infanticide.



4. "New York abortion law changes allow infanticide"
New York abortion law changes allow infanticide



5. "Anti-infanticide bill blocked by Senate Democrats"
Senate Democrats block Republicans’ anti-infanticide bill





6. And, as several states now allow abortion up to the moment of birth,… “The state of New York recently passed a horrific new abortion law removing almost all previous restrictions. The law now allows abortions to be performed up to the point of natural birth by physicians and also by some non-physician health care practitioners. It also removes protections for babies who accidentally survive an abortion procedure.”
New York abortion law changes allow infanticide





7.” In progressive Pennsylvania, here was a doctor, Kermit Gosnell, an African-American, he’s in his early 70s now, who ran an abortion clinic for 30 years, where he routinely, and these are not my words, this is the grand jury’s words, where he routinely delivered babies alive and then cut their necks with scissors.



And he did this for 30 years. That’s why in the eyes of the grand jury and also ABC’s Terry Moran, he was described as America’s biggest serial killer,…”

The True Story of Kermit Gosnell and His Victims





“…in the Kermit Gosnell trial (which received very little media attention), eye-witnesses testified that babies were moving and breathing before their spinal cords were cut; others were flushed in toilets or were thrown in the garbage with a shoebox for a coffin--while still alive inside!

The fact is, babies can survive abortion attempts.



The CDC tells us that, between 2003-2014, at least 143 infants died after being born alive during an abortion procedure, and the report even admits that this number is underestimated.



That’s an average of one infant a month! According to the report, some of these infants hung on to life for more than 24 hours after the induced abortion before they died!”
What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.





8. To prove that the Democrats are the assassins, the Republicans have a plan to make them reveal it:

"Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) introduced the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which would provide medical care to babies born after botched abortions. Doctors would be required to provide medical care to a baby who survived an abortion, just as they would with any other patient. If doctors failed to provide care he or she would face criminal charges.

"I want to ask each and every one of my colleagues whether or not we're OK with infanticide," Sasse asked his colleagues.
But when the bill came to the Senate floor for a vote on Monday, Democrats filibustered."

Disgusting: Dems Prove, Once Again, They Support Infanticide With Their Latest Filibuster



Filibustered to defeat the proposal….exactly what the Democrats did to stop the attempts by the Republicans to get the vote for women (1919) and the same ploy the Democrats used to block every anti-lynching law (1920-1940).



"...all six Democrats running for president in 2020 voted against the bill. The list includes Sens. Cory Booker (NJ), Sherrod Brown (OH), Kirsten Gillibrand (NY), Kamala Harris (CA.), Amy Klobuchar (MN), and Elizabeth Warren (MA.). Independent Bernie Sanders (VT) also voted in line with Democrats." Ibid.

Again who cares about politicians. You people are extreme rightwingers who want to jail people for having a abortion. I remember the anti-abortion people saying that they did not want to jail people and now that is apparently their goal. It is not murder either as when does a fetus become a life is unknown. If you want to get rid of abortions then convince a woman she should not get one rather than using laws. This is not a theocracy like Iran yet that is what you want. Instead of islamic theocracy, you wsnt to use Christian theocracy.

"You people are extreme rightwingers.."

Actually, I am an American, and you aren't.

Let's prove it: can you name any positions taken by conservatives that do not directly reflect American traditions and heritage?


See what I mean?

You are a American Nazi. I am just a American.

 

[busybee01]

4. Now, in considering what Biden will be in governing, here is his model:

After accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, Obama bombed more countries than any President since WWII
“U.S. Bombed Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia in 2016” The U.S. dropped an average of 3 bombs per hour last year
The U.S. dropped an average of 3 bombs per hour last year



The Democrats got us into the Civil War…Jefferson Davis .... Woodrow Wilson, WWI….FDR, WWII……Truman, Korean War….VietNam, JFK and LBJ…..yet they want to weaken our military.



Perhaps we should have a national lottery in which folks try to guess when and which country the Democrats will bomb first.


Remember this guy, Trump? Brokered several historic peace deals between long-time enemies in eastern Europe and the Middle East.

He is already continuing O's wars. We're heading back into syria. Neocons are on the march once again.

To prevent the spread of Iranian and Russian influence in the region.

WHAT?????

He has done the very wishes of the Russians and Iranians, you dunce.


Who do you suppose benefit most with the shutting of the Keystone Pipeline, but oil producers like Russia and Iran?????



For the context of the thread title, recall that whole ‘energy independence’ mantra that impelled elections since the 1960s, 1970s, Trump achieved energy independence, one of the many achievements for which the Democrats felt he needed to be punished.

Joe Biden wiped it out with the stroke of a pen.

“Several unions that eagerly endorsed President Joe Biden during the 2020 presidential election are now learning the hard way what it means to support Democrat policies. During his first day in office, the newly-inaugurated president revoked the construction permit for the Keystone XL oil pipeline, thus destroying thousands of jobs.A total of 42,000 jobs were expected to be filled once the pipeline was completed. But not anymore.” ‘Insulting and disappointing’: Unions show signs of voter remorse after Biden reality sinks in

Great news for the oil tyrants in the Middle East, and Iran…and especially Russia, you know, the folks the liars said Trump was in bed with.


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Trump was the same one who conspired with OPEC+ to cut a deal which involved cuts in production to drive up prices. That helped Russia.

OPEC+ cut is Trump's 'biggest and most complex' deal ever: Dan Yergin (cnbc.com)

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Why did Trump sign a agreement with OPEC which includes Russia and Iran to cut production to raise prices. Trump did what you are accusing Biden of doing. You are a unrepentant LIAR.

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Absolutely no evidence of this.

"Absolutely no evidence of this."



Tons of evidence.



Here it is, right from the Biden family laptop:

Emails from Hunter Biden's laptop

Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad
Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine in…

nypost.com

Emails reveal how Hunter Biden tried to cash in big on behalf of family with Chinese firm
Hunter Biden pursued lucrative deals involving China’s largest private energy company — including one that he said would be “interesting for me and my family,” emails obtained by The Post show. One…

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The last time I checked Hunter Biden did not run for President. That whole laptop jazz was part of a misinformation attempt by Putin. If you believe that then you are brainless.

Joe Biden got 10% of the bribe money from Communist China.


Hunter Biden said so, and I can produce his email saying so.

Hunter's business partner verified it.


But when the Biden business partner gave a press conference, validating everything in the laptop, and the proof that Joe Biden signed up to be a Ukraine, Russia, China “asset” for bucks and equity in fake companies, the next turn was this from the Washington Post turns out a nasty little piece about how no one should pay any attention:

“We’ve reached the Tony Bobulinski stage of the campaign



… Mr. Bobulinski enters. A former business partner of Hunter Biden’s, he apparently became frustrated at learning that the former vice president’s son had made a business deal in China without him. He’s since decided to help Giuliani and Senate Republicans dig through as much of Hunter Biden’s business history as possible. His presence at the debate, it appears, is either meant to rattle Joe Biden for unclear reasons — or simply to inject more energy into Trump’s base, many of whom have been tracking the expanding intricacies of the Hunter Biden plotline with great enthusiasm.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/22/weve-reached-tony-bobulinski-stage-campaign/



One would hope that there are enough citizens with integrity to see that there is far more actual proof here than in the three years of the Mueller Fiasco, and there the media couldn’t wait to produce tons of ‘investigations.’

There is not as single Democrat apologist who doesn’t know that every element of the story is true, and who doesn’t hope that enough have early voted to make the revelations moot.

Absolutely no evidence of that. Biden has released his tax returns so we know where his money came from. Speaking fees and books. Bobulinski is lying. These e-mails wdere provided by Putin. Apparently you rely on Putin for your information.

 

[busybee01]

This is yet another whack-job conspiracy theory from this poster.

Why do you let these remain in the politics section?

What's with the left's obsession with controlling speech?

Who's controlling speech? It can post as many wacko-job koo-koo conspiracy theories as it wants in the appropriate section of the forum.

When former president Donald Trump cannot even post on Twitter, that is controlling speech!

No it is not. Twitter is not a part of the government so they have every right to control what goes on their platform.

I am surprised that you don’t feel conspicuous, marching around in that brown shirt and the helmet with the spike on top….

You were looking in the mirror at yourself. Trump supporters are the Nazis.

 

[busybee01]

Past as prologue.


1.I am a believer in the words of the great Yogi, who presciently said “'It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future'”….but sometimes there are hints in what has been.

But lets begin with the present. It has been established that Biden voters, whatever number there were, and it is surely below 74.2 million, were clueless about the policies that they were voting for. I know this because I have, on numerous occasions, asked them to provide both the Trump policies that they voted against, and Biden policies that they voted for and anticipated.
Of course, they couldn't. Still can't.
A deeply worrisome position for an electorate.



2. For the context of the thread title, recall that whole ‘energy independence’ mantra that impelled elections since the 1960s, 1970s, Trump achieved energy independence, one of the many achievements for which the Democrats felt he needed to be punished.

Joe Biden wiped it out with the stroke of a pen.

“Several unions that eagerly endorsed President Joe Biden during the 2020 presidential election are now learning the hard way what it means to support Democrat policies. During his first day in office, the newly-inaugurated president revoked the construction permit for the Keystone XL oil pipeline, thus destroying thousands of jobs.A total of 42,000 jobs were expected to be filled once the pipeline was completed. But not anymore.” ‘Insulting and disappointing’: Unions show signs of voter remorse after Biden reality sinks in

Great news for the oil tyrants in the Middle East, and Iran…and especially Russia, you know, the folks the liars said Trump was in bed with.



3. Now, what else might Biden and the Democrats do for Putin and Russia. Well, remember that Reagan, the greatest President in modern times, was the first President to reduce the number of nuclear weapons in the world, with the START treaty, while another Republican, Nixon, was the first to stabilize the numbers of the increase in nuclear weapons, that was the SALT treaty.

Of course, Democrats, very different: Here is Hussein offering Putin a quid pro quo.



He cut the defensive weapons we were going to put in Poland. What else was he promising Putin?



What do you suppose Biden’s model will be???



Did any of you consider this history and future when you voted for the Wehrmacht…er, Democrats?

All that blather, and not one truthful statement.

Let me know when you Republicans finally present your voter fraud evidence in a court of law.

Exactly right.....courts would not allow the evidence to be presented......and there are tons of evidence.


Sen. Rand Paul Joins ABC's "This Week" - January 24, 2021 describing what we know of the election



SENATOR RAND PAUL, (R-KY): Well, what I would say is that the debate over whether or not there was fraud should occur, we never had any presentation in court where we actually looked at the evidence. Most of the cases were thrown out for lack of standing, which is a procedural way of not actually hearing the question.

There were several states in which the law was changed by the secretary of state and not the state legislature. To me, those are clearly unconstitutional…



Were there people who voted twice? Were there dead people who voted? Were there illegal aliens who voted? Yes, and we should get to the bottom of it.



I’ll give you an example. In my state, when we had a Democrat secretary of state, she refused, even under federal order, to purge the roles of illegal voters.





In Wisconsin, tens of thousands of absentee votes had only the name on them and no address. Historically those were thrown out, this time they weren't. They made special accommodations because they said, oh, it’s a pandemic and people forgot what their address was.

So they changed the law after the fact. That is wrong, that's unconstitutional…. I won’t be cowed by liberals in the media who say, there's no evidence here and you're a liar if you talk about election fraud.

I believe in Pennsylvania, they broke the law, and I believe if that ever will get a real hearing in the Supreme Court, it was denied for standing. It wasn’t actually taken up. If it were taken up, I do believe that the Supreme Court would overrule and say that they did break the law illegally.



It was never studied.

Should we investigate the fact that tens of thousands of absentee ballots did not have addresses on them and normally were disqualified, but this time, they were counted? Should we examine that?



I think there was great deal of evidence of fraud and changing of the election laws illegally. And I think a thorough investigation is warranted.”

… I want to look at election fraud and I want to look at secretaries of state who illegally changed the voter laws without the permission of their state legislatures. That is incontrovertible, it happened.

And you can't just sweep it under the rug and say, oh, nothing to see here, and everybody is a liar and you're a fool if you bring this up.”

'This Week' Transcript 1-24-21: Amy Klobuchar, Rand Paul, Vivek Murthy

Sen. Amy Klobuchar, Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Vivek Murthy were on "This Week" Sunday, January 24. This is a rush transcript and may be updated.

abcnews.go.com

If the evidence was able to be presented, you and your Fascist Party would be exposed.


You know that, don't you.

The evidence was presented. It was evident that they had none.

Rand Paul is hardly a unbiased source. He clearly is a fanatical Trump supporter. He has gone off his rocker.

The Wisconsin system of running elections was the same one as was used in 2016. There were no complaints then. Republicans wanted the clerks to be able to add any missing information.

In Pennsylvania no laws were broken. That is a old canard that has no basis in reality. The courts have the right to interpret state laws and the state constitution.

No one changed state law. State agencies have every right to interpret state law. If the legislature does not like that, they can take it to court or pass a specific law.

There was no evidence of fraud. US attorneys were instructed to look for instances of voter fraud and saw none. AG Barr said there was no evidence of fraud that changed the outcome. The US Attorney that Trump appointed as a interim US Attorney in Georgia saw no evidence of fraud.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Most of your list are just silly lies, not worthy of a response but you did mention 'infanticide', by which I assume you meant abortion. I presume you know the difference between an infant and a fetus so I'll just ignore your childish spin (get it?).

The fact is that nearly 7 in 10 Americans do not want the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade, the landmark ruling that established the right to abortion, according to a poll released Tuesday on the 47th anniversary of the decision.

Shockingly, you and Trump, seem to be outside the norm, one might say you are both abnormal.

She means abortion on demand, sport. There are in fact instances, though extremely rare, in which pregnancies must be terminated for real medical reasons.

That's why she used the term infanticide, you know, to denote the practice of murdering young human beings for the sake of convenience, sport and profit.

fe·tus
/ˈfēdəs/

noun

1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

You may know what she means, I only know what she said. So far as I recall PoliticalChic has never said that ANY abortion was justified. Let's see if she weighs in or hides out.

Her focus in her post was on late-term abortions. She indicated that they are included in the "for the sake of convenience, sport and profit" category and I think that is a distortion of the facts. Something routinely done by her. It is hard to imagine a pregnant women carrying a baby for 9 months only to decide she's changed her mind. It's also hard to imagine any doctor agreeing to it. I'd wager that in the vast majority of cases there are severe medical problems that jeopardize either the mother the baby or both.

When does a human life begin?

Scientifically when does a life begin?

The moment that the new human being's DNA is formed.

They'll teach you that when you get to Junior High School


"An individual human life begins at conception when a sperm cell from the father fuses with an egg cell from the mother, to form a new cell, the zygote, the first embryonic stage. The zygote grows and divides into two daughter cells, each of which grows and divides into two grand-daughter cells, and this cell growth/division process continues on, over and over again. The zygote is the start of a biological continuum that automatically grows and develops, passing gradually and sequentially through the stages we call foetus, baby, child, adult, old person and ending eventually in death. The full genetic instructions to guide the development of the continuum, in interaction with its environment, are present in the zygote. Every stage along the continuum is biologically human and each point along the continuum has the full human properties appropriate to that point." - Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland

Apparently you didn't get that far.

There are many definitions of when a human life begins. You seem to say that life begins at conception. I don't necessarily believe that.

“Many scientists would say they don’t know when life begins. There are a series of landmark moments,” said Arthur Caplan, professor and founding head of the Division of Medical Ethics at New York University Langone Medical Center. “The first is conception, the second is the development of the spine, the third the development of the brain, consciousness, and so on.” That perspective, it turns out, has deep roots. It’s also one that resonates for many pregnant women who experience the embryo’s gradual passage to personhood on a visceral level.

* * *

Many religious traditions, including a number of denominations of Christianity, are ambivalent about the beginnings of life. The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and many American Baptists don’t believe abortion is akin to murder. Presbyterians concede that they “may not know exactly when human life begins” and encourage their followers to make their own careful decisions on abortion. Unitarians are more overtly pro-choice and “believe not only in the value of life itself but also in the quality of life.”

When does life begin? Outside the Christian right, the answer is “over time.” (slate.com)

Stop seeking an excuse for the fact that you follow Trotsky, and accept that you are an unprincipled blood thirsty savage.
That's what makes you a Democrat voter.

Trotsky "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon

 

[PoliticalChic]

your voters cannot either explain any Trump policies they voted against......
....or Biden policies they voted for.

What you mean is that you don't understand how anyone can have values that differ from yours. Your lack of understanding does not reflect on me so much as it does on you. You should try to do better.

Nay, nay......normal people have the value that I have.

Watch:

Now......which of these parts of the Democrat Party's agenda represent 'normal' values????


The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,
socialism,
infanticide,
opposition to free speech,
substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,
support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,
accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,
and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.


And, perhaps you can offer your analysis of which Trump values you reject?

Most of your list are just silly lies, not worthy of a response but you did mention 'infanticide', by which I assume you meant abortion. I presume you know the difference between an infant and a fetus so I'll just ignore your childish spin (get it?).

The fact is that nearly 7 in 10 Americans do not want the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade, the landmark ruling that established the right to abortion, according to a poll released Tuesday on the 47th anniversary of the decision.

Shockingly, you and Trump, seem to be outside the norm, one might say you are both abnormal.

"Most of your list are just silly lies, not worthy of a response but you did mention 'infanticide', by which I assume you meant abortion."

No, I mean 'infanticide.'






A major, and dispositive, difference between civilized folks and you Wehrmacht voters is respect for human life.


1. Democrat Virginia Governor, and medical doctor, Northam, adhered to and explained that Democrat principle, here: "If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die.” Fake News: Liberal Rag Says Trump Lied About VA Governor's Support For After Birth Abortion. Uh, There's Tape.



Do you need the definition of 'infanticide'?


“What happens when the mother and doctor decide not to let the infant live?
Do they withhold care and let the infant die on its own or do they kill the infant? And how?
The media claims Trump’s comment is incorrect, but no one in the abortion industry will answer the question.” What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.





2. "Exactly zero Democratic senators voted to protect pain-capable children? Have they not been paying attention to the laws in states like Illinois, New Mexico, New York, Vermont, and Virginia? The Democratic governor of Virginia — a man considered a moderate in his party — proved on live radio that the Post’s description is inaccurate.

A born, living human being—with no human rights. That is the position of the Democratic Party. The Democratic platform calls for worldwide, unlimited, taxpayer-funded elective abortion on demand. Not only that, but the Democratic establishment also promises a litmus test for federal judges who will rule without fail for elective abortion on demand, no matter what the law or facts provide. The Democratic establishment is a hotbed of abortion extremism the likes of which we have never before seen on a national scale.”
Washington Post Lies About Democratic Party’s Support For Infanticide





3. The Democrat administration in Virginia offered a law for...in favor of....infanticide....stopped by Republicans.

The Democrat governor of Virginia actually agreed with the bill for infanticide.



4. "New York abortion law changes allow infanticide"
New York abortion law changes allow infanticide



5. "Anti-infanticide bill blocked by Senate Democrats"
Senate Democrats block Republicans’ anti-infanticide bill





6. And, as several states now allow abortion up to the moment of birth,… “The state of New York recently passed a horrific new abortion law removing almost all previous restrictions. The law now allows abortions to be performed up to the point of natural birth by physicians and also by some non-physician health care practitioners. It also removes protections for babies who accidentally survive an abortion procedure.”
New York abortion law changes allow infanticide





7.” In progressive Pennsylvania, here was a doctor, Kermit Gosnell, an African-American, he’s in his early 70s now, who ran an abortion clinic for 30 years, where he routinely, and these are not my words, this is the grand jury’s words, where he routinely delivered babies alive and then cut their necks with scissors.



And he did this for 30 years. That’s why in the eyes of the grand jury and also ABC’s Terry Moran, he was described as America’s biggest serial killer,…”

The True Story of Kermit Gosnell and His Victims





“…in the Kermit Gosnell trial (which received very little media attention), eye-witnesses testified that babies were moving and breathing before their spinal cords were cut; others were flushed in toilets or were thrown in the garbage with a shoebox for a coffin--while still alive inside!

The fact is, babies can survive abortion attempts.



The CDC tells us that, between 2003-2014, at least 143 infants died after being born alive during an abortion procedure, and the report even admits that this number is underestimated.



That’s an average of one infant a month! According to the report, some of these infants hung on to life for more than 24 hours after the induced abortion before they died!”
What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.





8. To prove that the Democrats are the assassins, the Republicans have a plan to make them reveal it:

"Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) introduced the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which would provide medical care to babies born after botched abortions. Doctors would be required to provide medical care to a baby who survived an abortion, just as they would with any other patient. If doctors failed to provide care he or she would face criminal charges.

"I want to ask each and every one of my colleagues whether or not we're OK with infanticide," Sasse asked his colleagues.
But when the bill came to the Senate floor for a vote on Monday, Democrats filibustered."

Disgusting: Dems Prove, Once Again, They Support Infanticide With Their Latest Filibuster



Filibustered to defeat the proposal….exactly what the Democrats did to stop the attempts by the Republicans to get the vote for women (1919) and the same ploy the Democrats used to block every anti-lynching law (1920-1940).



"...all six Democrats running for president in 2020 voted against the bill. The list includes Sens. Cory Booker (NJ), Sherrod Brown (OH), Kirsten Gillibrand (NY), Kamala Harris (CA.), Amy Klobuchar (MN), and Elizabeth Warren (MA.). Independent Bernie Sanders (VT) also voted in line with Democrats." Ibid.

You people use the word infanticide to stir up ignorant people. Abortions should be ended by convincing women not to have abortions not by laws that in some cases jail women for having abortions. That makes you a dictator.

"You people use the word infanticide to stir up ignorant people."


So, you're claiming that this 'stirred you up'?????


A major, and dispositive, difference between civilized folks and you Wehrmacht voters is respect for human life.


1. Democrat Virginia Governor, and medical doctor, Northam, adhered to and explained that Democrat principle, here: "If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die.” Fake News: Liberal Rag Says Trump Lied About VA Governor's Support For After Birth Abortion. Uh, There's Tape.



Do you need the definition of 'infanticide'?


“What happens when the mother and doctor decide not to let the infant live?
Do they withhold care and let the infant die on its own or do they kill the infant? And how?
The media claims Trump’s comment is incorrect, but no one in the abortion industry will answer the question.” What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.





2. "Exactly zero Democratic senators voted to protect pain-capable children? Have they not been paying attention to the laws in states like Illinois, New Mexico, New York, Vermont, and Virginia? The Democratic governor of Virginia — a man considered a moderate in his party — proved on live radio that the Post’s description is inaccurate.

A born, living human being—with no human rights. That is the position of the Democratic Party. The Democratic platform calls for worldwide, unlimited, taxpayer-funded elective abortion on demand. Not only that, but the Democratic establishment also promises a litmus test for federal judges who will rule without fail for elective abortion on demand, no matter what the law or facts provide. The Democratic establishment is a hotbed of abortion extremism the likes of which we have never before seen on a national scale.”
Washington Post Lies About Democratic Party’s Support For Infanticide





3. The Democrat administration in Virginia offered a law for...in favor of....infanticide....stopped by Republicans.

The Democrat governor of Virginia actually agreed with the bill for infanticide.



4. "New York abortion law changes allow infanticide"
New York abortion law changes allow infanticide



5. "Anti-infanticide bill blocked by Senate Democrats"
Senate Democrats block Republicans’ anti-infanticide bill





6. And, as several states now allow abortion up to the moment of birth,… “The state of New York recently passed a horrific new abortion law removing almost all previous restrictions. The law now allows abortions to be performed up to the point of natural birth by physicians and also by some non-physician health care practitioners. It also removes protections for babies who accidentally survive an abortion procedure.”
New York abortion law changes allow infanticide





7.” In progressive Pennsylvania, here was a doctor, Kermit Gosnell, an African-American, he’s in his early 70s now, who ran an abortion clinic for 30 years, where he routinely, and these are not my words, this is the grand jury’s words, where he routinely delivered babies alive and then cut their necks with scissors.



And he did this for 30 years. That’s why in the eyes of the grand jury and also ABC’s Terry Moran, he was described as America’s biggest serial killer,…”

The True Story of Kermit Gosnell and His Victims





“…in the Kermit Gosnell trial (which received very little media attention), eye-witnesses testified that babies were moving and breathing before their spinal cords were cut; others were flushed in toilets or were thrown in the garbage with a shoebox for a coffin--while still alive inside!

The fact is, babies can survive abortion attempts.



The CDC tells us that, between 2003-2014, at least 143 infants died after being born alive during an abortion procedure, and the report even admits that this number is underestimated.



That’s an average of one infant a month! According to the report, some of these infants hung on to life for more than 24 hours after the induced abortion before they died!”
What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.





8. To prove that the Democrats are the assassins, the Republicans have a plan to make them reveal it:

"Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) introduced the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which would provide medical care to babies born after botched abortions. Doctors would be required to provide medical care to a baby who survived an abortion, just as they would with any other patient. If doctors failed to provide care he or she would face criminal charges.

"I want to ask each and every one of my colleagues whether or not we're OK with infanticide," Sasse asked his colleagues.
But when the bill came to the Senate floor for a vote on Monday, Democrats filibustered."

Disgusting: Dems Prove, Once Again, They Support Infanticide With Their Latest Filibuster



Filibustered to defeat the proposal….exactly what the Democrats did to stop the attempts by the Republicans to get the vote for women (1919) and the same ploy the Democrats used to block every anti-lynching law (1920-1940).



"...all six Democrats running for president in 2020 voted against the bill. The list includes Sens. Cory Booker (NJ), Sherrod Brown (OH), Kirsten Gillibrand (NY), Kamala Harris (CA.), Amy Klobuchar (MN), and Elizabeth Warren (MA.). Independent Bernie Sanders (VT) also voted in line with Democrats." Ibid.

Again who cares about politicians. You people are extreme rightwingers who want to jail people for having a abortion. I remember the anti-abortion people saying that they did not want to jail people and now that is apparently their goal. It is not murder either as when does a fetus become a life is unknown. If you want to get rid of abortions then convince a woman she should not get one rather than using laws. This is not a theocracy like Iran yet that is what you want. Instead of islamic theocracy, you wsnt to use Christian theocracy.

"You people are extreme rightwingers.."

Actually, I am an American, and you aren't.

Let's prove it: can you name any positions taken by conservatives that do not directly reflect American traditions and heritage?


See what I mean?

You are a American Nazi. I am just a American.

The Nazis were socialists...."NationalSocialistWorker'sParty."

Just like you and the rest of the Democrats, and they and you stand for the same things.

Both put their citizens in concentration camps.




I can't begin to tell you how pleased I am every time you post, and embarrass the Left.

 

[gmeyers1944]

This is yet another whack-job conspiracy theory from this poster.

Why do you let these remain in the politics section?

What's with the left's obsession with controlling speech?

Who's controlling speech? It can post as many wacko-job koo-koo conspiracy theories as it wants in the appropriate section of the forum.

When former president Donald Trump cannot even post on Twitter, that is controlling speech!

No it is not. Twitter is not a part of the government so they have every right to control what goes on their platform.

Twitter wants to have it both ways. They want to be protected by Section 230 so they won't be sued. But, when they "control what goes on their platform" they are not a platform. They are a publisher. They, and Facebook, and others don't deserve Section 230 protection.

 

[gmeyers1944]

This is yet another whack-job conspiracy theory from this poster.

Why do you let these remain in the politics section?

What's with the left's obsession with controlling speech?

Who's controlling speech? It can post as many wacko-job koo-koo conspiracy theories as it wants in the appropriate section of the forum.

When former president Donald Trump cannot even post on Twitter, that is controlling speech!

Nope. He violated their TOS. You and I would have gotten banned, why shouldn't be?

The only thing President Trump is guilty of is being a conservative. That is not a violation of their TOS!

 

[gmeyers1944]

A woman has an abortion and you, knowing all the details, agrees she made the right decision.

I don't follow you, but there's absolutely no medical justification for the abortion of gestationally viable fetuses.

PoliticalChic would never cite any case where abortion is reasonable, moral, ethical, desirable, etc. Can you?

Even a leading group opposing abortion, the National Right to Life Committee, issued a statement saying that its position is "to allow abortion if necessary to prevent the death of the mother."

If you can abort, then you can deliver. Give the baby a chance to live. He (she) can always be adopted if the mother does not want or thinks that she cannot take care of him (her).

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is yet another whack-job conspiracy theory from this poster.

Why do you let these remain in the politics section?

What's with the left's obsession with controlling speech?

Who's controlling speech? It can post as many wacko-job koo-koo conspiracy theories as it wants in the appropriate section of the forum.

When former president Donald Trump cannot even post on Twitter, that is controlling speech!

No it is not. Twitter is not a part of the government so they have every right to control what goes on their platform.

Twitter wants to have it both ways. They want to be protected by Section 230 so they won't be sued. But, when they "control what goes on their platform" they are not a platform. They are a publisher. They, and Facebook, and others don't deserve Section 230 protection.

I remind: RHINOs refused to end 230.

 

[PoliticalChic]

A woman has an abortion and you, knowing all the details, agrees she made the right decision.

I don't follow you, but there's absolutely no medical justification for the abortion of gestationally viable fetuses.

PoliticalChic would never cite any case where abortion is reasonable, moral, ethical, desirable, etc. Can you?

Even a leading group opposing abortion, the National Right to Life Committee, issued a statement saying that its position is "to allow abortion if necessary to prevent the death of the mother."

If you can abort, then you can deliver. Give the baby a chance to live. He (she) can always be adopted if the mother does not want or thinks that she cannot take care of him (her).

But......it's the party of death.

 

[Crepitus]

This is yet another whack-job conspiracy theory from this poster.

Why do you let these remain in the politics section?

What's with the left's obsession with controlling speech?

Who's controlling speech? It can post as many wacko-job koo-koo conspiracy theories as it wants in the appropriate section of the forum.

When former president Donald Trump cannot even post on Twitter, that is controlling speech!

No it is not. Twitter is not a part of the government so they have every right to control what goes on their platform.

I am surprised that you don’t feel conspicuous, marching around in that brown shirt and the helmet with the spike on top….

You were looking in the mirror at yourself. Trump supporters are the Nazis.

The op in particular. It is paid foreign actor. She/ he has been outed as a plant (it couldn't even tell me what time of day it was in New York where it supposedly lives) but the tRumplings still love it because it reinforces their bias.

 

[Crepitus]

This is yet another whack-job conspiracy theory from this poster.

Why do you let these remain in the politics section?

What's with the left's obsession with controlling speech?

Who's controlling speech? It can post as many wacko-job koo-koo conspiracy theories as it wants in the appropriate section of the forum.

When former president Donald Trump cannot even post on Twitter, that is controlling speech!

No it is not. Twitter is not a part of the government so they have every right to control what goes on their platform.

Twitter wants to have it both ways. They want to be protected by Section 230 so they won't be sued. But, when they "control what goes on their platform" they are not a platform. They are a publisher. They, and Facebook, and others don't deserve Section 230 protection.

Wrong. Enforcing the TOS does not make them a publisher.

 

[Crepitus]

This is yet another whack-job conspiracy theory from this poster.

Why do you let these remain in the politics section?

What's with the left's obsession with controlling speech?

Who's controlling speech? It can post as many wacko-job koo-koo conspiracy theories as it wants in the appropriate section of the forum.

When former president Donald Trump cannot even post on Twitter, that is controlling speech!

Nope. He violated their TOS. You and I would have gotten banned, why shouldn't be?

The only thing President Trump is guilty of is being a conservative. That is not a violation of their TOS!

That's like three lies in one post.

Well done.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is yet another whack-job conspiracy theory from this poster.

Why do you let these remain in the politics section?

What's with the left's obsession with controlling speech?

Who's controlling speech? It can post as many wacko-job koo-koo conspiracy theories as it wants in the appropriate section of the forum.

When former president Donald Trump cannot even post on Twitter, that is controlling speech!

No it is not. Twitter is not a part of the government so they have every right to control what goes on their platform.

I am surprised that you don’t feel conspicuous, marching around in that brown shirt and the helmet with the spike on top….

You were looking in the mirror at yourself. Trump supporters are the Nazis.

The op in particular. It is paid foreign actor. She/ he has been outed as a plant (it couldn't even tell me what time of day it was in New York where it supposedly lives) but the tRumplings still love it because it reinforces their bias.

You're truly a moron.

But you must be tired of folks telling you that.

 

[Ringtone]

I understand what you're saying. I'm not sure 'viable' is something so cut and dried but I understand your point.

There's nothing mysterious about it. A fetus is gestationally viable at 5 to 6 months.