What 'type' of Caucasian should vote Democrat...haven't Dems completely exposed themselves as the party committed to bringing whitey down?

[my2¢]

What three policies of Trumps do you dislike and how do they affect you?
What three policies does your wife hate?
This question always throws people for a loop.

Policies are only part of the story. I equally weigh those with my judgement on the politician's sincerity in pursuing them and his ability to carry them out. Additionally there is also the matter of execution of situations as they arise.

My list starts with a stance Trump expressed in 2016 which I whole heartedly agreed with but from the start felt he was peddling BS.

Trump: I will eliminate U.S. debt in 8 years

Trump said renegotiating trade deals would help.

thehill.com

Here goes:

What three policies of Trumps do you dislike and how do they affect you?
(1) My first and foremost source of discontent is the continued lack of control over the federal deficit. The $2 trillion Senate package Trump signed that sent out dough willy-nilly was totally ridiculous.
(2) Allowing the handling of covid-19's turned over to the bureaucrats has been an economic disaster. With the administration's turnover one possibility I sense is that too many of his appointments have been given responsibility way over their heads. The acting Secretary of Homeland Security is one of these.
(3) Other than proceeding with the space program his general lack of respect for science has put the country in need of a wake up call we haven't seen since Sputnik.
(4) Interference with states' control over elections which I find on par with the Democratically controlled House.
(5) Lack of leadership. He unnecessarily turns issues into politics. Trump can give a good speech when he sticks to script. But with an attitude that centers around himself I come away with seeing Trump using people in the same fashion as Democrats play blacks. An example of this is how Trump played coal miners back in 2016.

What three policies does your wife hate?
While my wife is further to the left than I, for her the personal aspect by far outweighs policies. She's a proud army brat and due to her personal situation I see there is nothing more that he can say or do that'll mend the feelings she's held of him ever since he expressed his opinion on prisoners of war.

 

[JoeB131]

And I'm sure people of color are thrilled to have a white leftist like you looking out for them. Because, you know, they can't take care of themselves. Or so you believe.

We only rise and fall together. I have their backs, they have mine. The guys I don't trust, dumb white trash like you who beg for the few crumbs the One Percenters toss out.

Heinlein wrote about characters seeking to be left alone by oppressive government...and you claim he's a fascist.

Did you read "Starship Troopers"? That's pretty much an open endorsement of fascism. It's most certainly NOT a libertarian book.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

And I'm sure people of color are thrilled to have a white leftist like you looking out for them. Because, you know, they can't take care of themselves. Or so you believe.

We only rise and fall together. I have their backs, they have mine. The guys I don't trust, dumb white trash like you who beg for the few crumbs the One Percenters toss out.

Heinlein wrote about characters seeking to be left alone by oppressive government...and you claim he's a fascist.

Did you read "Starship Troopers"? That's pretty much an open endorsement of fascism. It's most certainly NOT a libertarian book.

Heinlein was quite the reactionary, eh? Farnham's Freehold was his libertarian book.

Starship Troopers predicated military service for full citizenship. I would call the book more militarist than anything...of course, in the book Billions are killed--which may have focused people on survival. Great read for a 16 year old though!

 

[JoeB131]

And when the media portrays someone you like as being the most evil son of a bitch on the planet, you don't have nice things to say about the media. Wow! You believe everything the controlled news and entertainment media says about those you want to find fault with. That's called bias confirmation. And that, Angry Joe, is what makes you a useful idiot to communists.

Or these were just crazy people who were stupid enough to shoot at cops.

Shooting at cops is always stupid.

 

[JoeB131]

Heinlein was quite the reactionary, eh? Farnham's Freehold was his libertarian book.

Starship Troopers predicated military service for full citizenship. I would call the book more militarist than anything...of course, in the book Billions are killed--which may have focused people on survival. Great read for a 16 year old though!

His early stuff was good. His later stuff was just... weird.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Heinlein was quite the reactionary, eh? Farnham's Freehold was his libertarian book.

Starship Troopers predicated military service for full citizenship. I would call the book more militarist than anything...of course, in the book Billions are killed--which may have focused people on survival. Great read for a 16 year old though!

His early stuff was good. His later stuff was just... weird.

Future History stories were great...he went mainstream with Stranger in a Strange land. Time Enough for Love great.....until he started talking sex with his daughter/clones--then he goes back in time and messes with his MOM! Yeah..weird--and got weirder~

 

[Porter Rockwell]

And when the media portrays someone you like as being the most evil son of a bitch on the planet, you don't have nice things to say about the media. Wow! You believe everything the controlled news and entertainment media says about those you want to find fault with. That's called bias confirmation. And that, Angry Joe, is what makes you a useful idiot to communists.

Or these were just crazy people who were stupid enough to shoot at cops.

Shooting at cops is always stupid.

You are ignorant beyond words. Your posts show you don't understand history. The 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence and went on to be the catalyst for the War of Independence took on a Hell of a lot more than Jack Booted Thugs that try to enforce unconstitutional laws.

 

[JoeB131]

You are ignorant beyond words. Your posts show you don't understand history. The 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence and went on to be the catalyst for the War of Independence took on a Hell of a lot more than Jack Booted Thugs that try to enforce unconstitutional laws.

The 56 men who signed the "DOI" were a bunch of slave rapists who didn't want to pay their fair share in taxes.

They would have had no more use for nuts with guns than our current leaders do, which is why George Washington sent in troops to put down the Whiskey Rebellion.

 

[citygator]

Democrats win every single demographic except white men. That’s it. Even white women favor democrats. Now that you know that which party is actually the bastion of racist? In fact, if you back out racists the majority of white men vote democratic too.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You are ignorant beyond words. Your posts show you don't understand history. The 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence and went on to be the catalyst for the War of Independence took on a Hell of a lot more than Jack Booted Thugs that try to enforce unconstitutional laws.

The 56 men who signed the "DOI" were a bunch of slave rapists who didn't want to pay their fair share in taxes.

They would have had no more use for nuts with guns than our current leaders do, which is why George Washington sent in troops to put down the Whiskey Rebellion.

In your pea brain won't allow you to accept the basic truths upon which the Republic rests. People who care about fundamental Liberty know the value in maintaining the means necessary to repel it.

 

[Deleted member 73486]

If we are supposed to vote on our own personal interests why would anybody Caucasian vote for the party that champions and celebrates the notion of 'fewer whites' at every opportunity?
While this is sure to be one that will scare the living piss out of some, I pose this as a very serious question.
Before you get scared, remember, THE FLIP-SIDE OF THIS HAS BEEN ASKED MANY TIMES BEFORE WITHOUT FOLKS SHITTING THEMSELVES...."Why should minorities vote Republican?"

(PLEASE NOTE: If this is too scary please advise...I will edit and re-frame)

Why would a rational person vote for Trump -- he is the antithesis of everything that is good and decent in the human race. That's the question I pose to you!

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Democrats win every single demographic except white men. That’s it. Even white women favor democrats. Now that you know that which party is actually the bastion of racist? In fact, if you back out racists the majority of white men vote democratic too.

Ever since the people began worshiping the Golden Calf while Moses was gone, history has been shown that majorities are, by and large proven wrong time and time and time again. America was founded as a Republic. We were guaranteed unalienable Rights. Those Rights proved themselves to be indispensable in helping every American achieve his own independence and pathway to self sufficiency.

Today's "democracy" favors people like Barack Obama, who never had a real job in his life. Community organizer was just another name for chief rabble rouser. There is Joe Biden, the man who seeks to disenfranchise members of his own race. There's Bernie Sanders, the quirky little communist that has always lived off the government dole, be it welfarite or politician. Yeah, you have those women who dated worthless pieces of scatological pieces of human waste, had children by those deadbeats, and now thinks the rest of us can raise "her" kids via tax dollars while the mothers aid and assist their children in becoming drug addicts and generational welfarites. We have people coming here from the third world and I'm wondering why they came here if America was so bad. Congress and the Senate provided the answers. Foreigners are taking over and implementing the failed policies from the socialist cesspools they left to come here.

So we stock America with scum sucking bottom feeders and if any others dare resist the take-over of a country founded by whites, then they are racist. What stupidity!

 

[Porter Rockwell]

If we are supposed to vote on our own personal interests why would anybody Caucasian vote for the party that champions and celebrates the notion of 'fewer whites' at every opportunity?
While this is sure to be one that will scare the living piss out of some, I pose this as a very serious question.
Before you get scared, remember, THE FLIP-SIDE OF THIS HAS BEEN ASKED MANY TIMES BEFORE WITHOUT FOLKS SHITTING THEMSELVES...."Why should minorities vote Republican?"

(PLEASE NOTE: If this is too scary please advise...I will edit and re-frame)

Why would a rational person vote for Trump -- he is the antithesis of everything that is good and decent in the human race. That's the question I pose to you!

Why would any decent person vote for a Democrat?

 

[citygator]

Democrats win every single demographic except white men. That’s it. Even white women favor democrats. Now that you know that which party is actually the bastion of racist? In fact, if you back out racists the majority of white men vote democratic too.

Ever since the people began worshiping the Golden Calf while Moses was gone, history has been shown that majorities are, by and large proven wrong time and time and time again. America was founded as a Republic. We were guaranteed unalienable Rights. Those Rights proved themselves to be indispensable in helping every American achieve his own independence and pathway to self sufficiency.

Today's "democracy" favors people like Barack Obama, who never had a real job in his life. Community organizer was just another name for chief rabble rouser. There is Joe Biden, the man who seeks to disenfranchise members of his own race. There's Bernie Sanders, the quirky little communist that has always lived off the government dole, be it welfarite or politician. Yeah, you have those women who dated worthless pieces of scatological pieces of human waste, had children by those deadbeats, and now thinks the rest of us can raise "her" kids via tax dollars while the mothers aid and assist their children in becoming drug addicts and generational welfarites. We have people coming here from the third world and I'm wondering why they came here if America was so bad. Congress and the Senate provided the answers. Foreigners are taking over and implementing the failed policies from the socialist cesspools they left to come here.

So we stock America with scum sucking bottom feeders and if any others dare resist the take-over of a country founded by whites, then they are racist. What stupidity!

You lose all credibility when you start by spouting nonsense. Since when is a lawyer, a professor at Chicago U and a Senator not real jobs? Listen man if you don’t like black men as Presidents just say so. You don’t have to hide behind stupid reasons like that.

Your ilk thinks reality star and rich dad means experience. What the hell do you buffoons know?

Listen even your talking points are stupid. We have 2.3M of the neediest people on TANF which used to be called welfare. That’s a tiny amount of people so what are you whacking off about welfarites?!?! Want to stop the undeserved from getting your money? Fight back against the military suppliers taking trillions for starters. Or how about corporate welfare in the way of oil and big agriculture. WAKE UP. You don’t need to “obey” the talking points they spoon feed you on rightwingnuts.com.

 

[daveman]

And I'm sure people of color are thrilled to have a white leftist like you looking out for them. Because, you know, they can't take care of themselves. Or so you believe.

We only rise and fall together. I have their backs, they have mine. The guys I don't trust, dumb white trash like you who beg for the few crumbs the One Percenters toss out.

Heinlein wrote about characters seeking to be left alone by oppressive government...and you claim he's a fascist.

Did you read "Starship Troopers"? That's pretty much an open endorsement of fascism. It's most certainly NOT a libertarian book.

I don't beg for anything. I work. Try it sometime.

By the way, you know you'll have to work after your imaginary "Revolution", don't you? You won't be given a big corner office and a seat on the Politiburo. You'll work until you can't work any more, then you'll be put in a mass grave.

Yes, I read "Starship Troopers". It's an outlier. Most of Heinlein's novels are about people getting away from or fighting against oppressive government. "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress", "Methuselah's Children", "Time Enough for Love".

Or are you familiar only with the novels that have been made into movies?

 

[daveman]

You are ignorant beyond words. Your posts show you don't understand history. The 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence and went on to be the catalyst for the War of Independence took on a Hell of a lot more than Jack Booted Thugs that try to enforce unconstitutional laws.

The 56 men who signed the "DOI" were a bunch of slave rapists who didn't want to pay their fair share in taxes.

They would have had no more use for nuts with guns than our current leaders do, which is why George Washington sent in troops to put down the Whiskey Rebellion.

You'd have sided with King George. This is undeniable. You'd have informed on the Founding Fathers in hopes the Crown would give you a pat on the head.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Democrats win every single demographic except white men. That’s it. Even white women favor democrats. Now that you know that which party is actually the bastion of racist? In fact, if you back out racists the majority of white men vote democratic too.

Ever since the people began worshiping the Golden Calf while Moses was gone, history has been shown that majorities are, by and large proven wrong time and time and time again. America was founded as a Republic. We were guaranteed unalienable Rights. Those Rights proved themselves to be indispensable in helping every American achieve his own independence and pathway to self sufficiency.

Today's "democracy" favors people like Barack Obama, who never had a real job in his life. Community organizer was just another name for chief rabble rouser. There is Joe Biden, the man who seeks to disenfranchise members of his own race. There's Bernie Sanders, the quirky little communist that has always lived off the government dole, be it welfarite or politician. Yeah, you have those women who dated worthless pieces of scatological pieces of human waste, had children by those deadbeats, and now thinks the rest of us can raise "her" kids via tax dollars while the mothers aid and assist their children in becoming drug addicts and generational welfarites. We have people coming here from the third world and I'm wondering why they came here if America was so bad. Congress and the Senate provided the answers. Foreigners are taking over and implementing the failed policies from the socialist cesspools they left to come here.

So we stock America with scum sucking bottom feeders and if any others dare resist the take-over of a country founded by whites, then they are racist. What stupidity!

You lose all credibility when you start by spouting nonsense. Since when is a lawyer, a professor at Chicago U and a Senator not real jobs? Listen man if you don’t like black men as Presidents just say so. You don’t have to hide behind stupid reasons like that.

Your ilk thinks reality star and rich dad means experience. What the hell do you buffoons know?

Listen even your talking points are stupid. We have 2.3M of the neediest people on TANF which used to be called welfare. That’s a tiny amount of people so what are you whacking off about welfarites?!?! Want to stop the undeserved from getting your money? Fight back against the military suppliers taking trillions for starters. Or how about corporate welfare in the way of oil and big agriculture. WAKE UP. You don’t need to “obey” the talking points they spoon feed you on rightwingnuts.com.

You should sue your brains for non-support. At the very least it would teach you not to be an idiot when you insult people with more experience than you. A Senator is just a politician. It is not the equivalent to a job in the private sector. Joe Biden may hang out with black people and tell them if they don't vote for him they aren't black, but he is not black (as in black race.) Dope smoking Obama was nothing more than a symbol for the masses to believe in.

Since I work with welfarites, I know damn well who they are; I do not support the Democrat that has the MAGA supporters thinking he's Jesus incarnate; I'm damn well not for the corporations with a license to steal. I'm my own man, you blithering idiot.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You are ignorant beyond words. Your posts show you don't understand history. The 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence and went on to be the catalyst for the War of Independence took on a Hell of a lot more than Jack Booted Thugs that try to enforce unconstitutional laws.

The 56 men who signed the "DOI" were a bunch of slave rapists who didn't want to pay their fair share in taxes.

They would have had no more use for nuts with guns than our current leaders do, which is why George Washington sent in troops to put down the Whiskey Rebellion.

You'd have sided with King George. This is undeniable. You'd have informed on the Founding Fathers in hopes the Crown would give you a pat on the head.

You're a fucking idiot. I'm a descendant of Arthur Middleton, a signer of the Declaration of Independence and I am a strict constructionist that can tolerate some textual criticism, but I hold true to the values, goals, and objectives of the founders and framers of this country while total dumb asses like you stick your head up your ass and really believe there is some Democrat v. Republican fight going on.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

You are ignorant beyond words. Your posts show you don't understand history. The 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence and went on to be the catalyst for the War of Independence took on a Hell of a lot more than Jack Booted Thugs that try to enforce unconstitutional laws.

The 56 men who signed the "DOI" were a bunch of slave rapists who didn't want to pay their fair share in taxes.

They would have had no more use for nuts with guns than our current leaders do, which is why George Washington sent in troops to put down the Whiskey Rebellion.

Well...you would do well to revisit your early American history. 1) Many of the signers were strict abolitionists. The fight between Anti and Pro-slavery almost doomed our country before it was even formed. Oh..and not all slave owners were rapists..and many felt that sex with a slave was akin to fucking your horse. Somehow, I think you might be zeroing in on Thomas Jefferson--but whatever.

Taxes? Most of the signers of the DOI would have had no problem paying taxes..not sure just what 'fair share' would constitute....but the colonies were taxed to a great degree. It was the fact that these great men were not allowed to participate in the splitting of the loot that gave them the red-ass. No taxation without representation, ya know?

Had King George not been mad...and his advisors short-sighted..we would still be British...LOL!~

The Whiskey Rebellion...the only time a sitting President commanded troops in the field---and. eventually the tax was repealed--and the US would subsist off of import tariffs alone.

BTW..Washington sympathized with the Rebels..and eventually pardoned those who had been set to hang.

So there is your snapshot in time

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You are ignorant beyond words. Your posts show you don't understand history. The 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence and went on to be the catalyst for the War of Independence took on a Hell of a lot more than Jack Booted Thugs that try to enforce unconstitutional laws.

The 56 men who signed the "DOI" were a bunch of slave rapists who didn't want to pay their fair share in taxes.

They would have had no more use for nuts with guns than our current leaders do, which is why George Washington sent in troops to put down the Whiskey Rebellion.

Well...you would do well to revisit your early American history. 1) Many of the signers were strict abolitionists. The fight between Anti and Pro-slavery almost doomed our country before it was even formed. Oh..and not all slave owners were rapists..and many felt that sex with a slave was akin to fucking your horse. Somehow, I think you might be zeroing in on Thomas Jefferson--but whatever.

Taxes? Most of the signers of the DOI would have had no problem paying taxes..not sure just what 'fair share' would constitute....but the colonies were taxed to a great degree. It was the fact that these great men were not allowed to participate in the splitting of the loot that gave them the red-ass. No taxation without representation, ya know?

Had King George not been mad...and his advisors short-sighted..we would still be British...LOL!~

The Whiskey Rebellion...the only time a sitting President commanded troops in the field---and. eventually the tax was repealed--and the US would subsist off of import tariffs alone.

BTW..Washington sympathized with the Rebels..and eventually pardoned those who had been set to hang.

So there is your snapshot in time

Damn - JoeB gets shut down on all counts. Thank you for a very great post to end my day with.