What to do with the $800 billion the illegal aliens send home?

[lafayette]

NO, libbie, you use the equity to buy into an assisted living facility.

You really ARE clueless as to the harm the illegals do to the working class.

So you may get three or four years. That's a start. What comes next?

 

[Lisa558]

So you may get three or four years. That's a start. What comes next?

And you got MORE TIME before the illegals moved in.

Why should working class people have to be punished for all the illegals the libs are letting in? And why are you on the side of the illegals instead of working class citizens?

 

[d0gbreath]

NO, libbie, you use the equity to buy into an assisted living facility.

You really ARE clueless as to the harm the illegals do to the working class.

Vans are way cheaper. I'm not working class. That could be why I'm not seeing the harm. I doubt that you can see it either.

 

[Lisa558]

Vans are way cheaper. I'm not working class. That could be why I'm not seeing the harm. I doubt that you can see it either.

That’s the point. You’re not working class, so the invasion of illegals doesn’t harm you. That’s why libs don’t care about the millions of illegals - they have the money to avoid the harm they cause.

But I don’t just consider what harms ME. I consider what harms the biggest segment of Americans - the working and lower-middle class - and the illegal invasion has been horrible for them.

 

[john doe 101]

Why not? Obama did.

That already reside here?

 

[Rigby5]

And you got MORE TIME before the illegals moved in.

Why should working class people have to be punished for all the illegals the libs are letting in? And why are you on the side of the illegals instead of working class citizens?

Wrong.
We do not have enough workers any more, and if we want to compete with China, we need more immigrant workers.
The immigrant workers produce more, so make the whole country wealthier.
More immigrants are the only way to pay Social Security.
The working class benefits from the immigrants, by selling them stuff and the immigrants funding the government.

 

[Rigby5]

That’s the point. You’re not working class, so the invasion of illegals doesn’t harm you. That’s why libs don’t care about the millions of illegals - they have the money to avoid the harm they cause.

But I don’t just consider what harms ME. I consider what harms the biggest segment of Americans - the working and lower-middle class - and the illegal invasion has been horrible for them.

The immigrants do not cause harm, but instead produce wealth for the whole country.
The high prices are what is harming the lower-middle class, and that is due to a shortage of workers.

 

[Rigby5]

You wanna do something about illegals working for cheap? Make it PAINFUL to hire them.

That would actually work.

The rest is just bullshit

There is no way for those hiring to know who is illegal or not.
All you can legally ask for is a social security number, and they can just borrow one.

And you do not want to make is painful for employers to make a profit and be able to compete with China.

 

[Rigby5]

Didn’t need to. He made them stay in Mexico.

Actually, the majority now are from Venezuela, Haiti, and Cuba, since we illegally impose economic sanctions on those countries.

 

[Rigby5]

The first part being by far the most important. The amount we would save by not being forced to cater to illegal aliens will far outway any slight increase in prices.

How could it, when there are so many other attractions in this country for illegal aliens besides low wage jobs? All punishing employers would do would have more them go on welfare or turn to crime.

How could that be, if you insist that employers will be forced to pay much higher wages?

Of course it does, whether you know it or not. Your party certainly is using that strategy.

My only fear is the money that Americans lose by catering to illegal aliens.

Suppose we made it a felony for a federal state or local official to provide welfare benefits without checking immigrations status? That would save way more than some vague and planless idea of going after employers.

Wrong.
Immigrants, illegal or legal, can't get welfare. In fact, the only welfare is ADC or disability.
They also have half the crime rate of citizens.
The US is going broke due to our trade imbalance, which we can only fix with more immigrant workers.

 

[eagle1462010]

There is no way for those hiring to know who is illegal or not.
All you can legally ask for is a social security number, and they can just borrow one.

And you do not want to make is painful for employers to make a profit and be able to compete with China.

While E Verify doesnt catch stolen ids it finds fake junk. This with fascial recognition can catch many.

This BS can end when our govt stops looking the other way

 

[Nostra]

The immigrants do not cause harm, but instead produce wealth for the whole country.
The high prices are what is harming the lower-middle class, and that is due to a shortage of workers.

Tell that to all the Americans they have raped and killed, moron.

 

[Lisa558]

Wrong.
We do not have enough workers any more, and if we want to compete with China, we need more immigrant workers.
The immigrant workers produce more, so make the whole country wealthier.
More immigrants are the only way to pay Social Security.
The working class benefits from the immigrants, by selling them stuff and the immigrants funding the government.

Wrong.

1) We have too many able-bodied people who are not working because they are given welfare instead. Put more restrictions on welfare, and enforce the restrictions we already have, and you’ll find Americans willing to take jobs.

2) They don’t create “wealth.” They are costing Americans a net of $150 billion a year - and that doesn’t account for the drop in the caliber of public schools or the damage to property values.

3) You have said the most hateful, antisemitic things about Jewish people, and you’re defending illegal aliens?! More upside down values.

And AGAIN…..we are not talking about “immigrants.” We are talking about illegal aliens.

 

[kyzr]

The immigrants do not cause harm, but instead produce wealth for the whole country.
The high prices are what is harming the lower-middle class, and that is due to a shortage of workers.

Total nonsense.
Immigrants living in luxury hotels getting free food are a drain on the government.
We do need more hi-tech workers not the 166,000 Chinese, 125,000 Russians, 600,000 convicted criminals, and hundreds of terrorists, including ISIS that Biden's open borders let into the US.

 

[Seymour Flops]

That already reside here?

Yes!

Don't fall for the spin!

Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President

Trump may be getting closer to Obama's recent policy.

abcnews.go.com

How many people have been deported under Obama?​

President Barack Obama has often been referred to by immigration groups as the "Deporter in Chief."

Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn’t include the number of people who "self-deported" or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

Deporting people found to be living here illegally is the obvious, logical, and customary thing to do. It was only under Trump did deporting illegals suddenly become bad and wrong, under the logic that anything Trump does is bad and wrong.

 

[lafayette]

And you got MORE TIME before the illegals moved in.

Why should working class people have to be punished for all the illegals the libs are letting in? And why are you on the side of Iillegals instead of working class citizens?

Illegals should go home, yes. But if citizen children live with them, Homan is going to have to find an alternative to en masse deportation. Americans as a whole will not let it happen.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Illegals should go home, yes. But if citizen children live with them, Homan is going to have to find an alternative to en masse deportation. Americans as a whole will not let it happen.

There isn't really an issue with illegal aliens that are parents of a minor US Citizen.

Deport the parents. Then the choice is theirs. The minor child can accompany them and return on their own at a later time, since they are citiziens. Or, the parents give up legal custody in either an adoption, loca parentis, or ward of the state and the child remainss in the US.

WW

 

[lafayette]

There isn't really an issue with illegal aliens that are parents of a minor US Citizen.

Deport the parents. Then the choice is theirs. The minor child can accompany them and return on their own at a later time, since they are citiziens. Or, the parents give up legal custody in either an adoption, loca parentis, or ward Tthe state and the child remainss in the US.

WW

The parents do not have to do any such thing, and the state can't make them.

 

[Lesh]

The first part being by far the most important. The amount we would save by not being forced to cater to illegal aliens will far outway any slight increase in prices.

How could it, when there are so many other attractions in this country for illegal aliens besides low wage jobs? All punishing employers would do would have more them go on welfare or turn to crime.

How could that be, if you insist that employers will be forced to pay much higher wages?

Of course it does, whether you know it or not. Your party certainly is using that strategy.

My only fear is the money that Americans lose by catering to illegal aliens.

Suppose we made it a felony for a federal state or local official to provide welfare benefits without checking immigrations status? That would save way more than some vague and planless idea of going after employers.

Total bullshit and way too implicated and full of wishful thinking

Simply addressing hiring does everything you want.

 

[Lesh]

The illegals living in luxury hotels and getting free food will LOWER costs.

Welfare reform will also lower costs.

Costs of groceries?

Nope