What to do With Occupied Germany?

[zaangalewa]

your sentence structure is German, not English

What is a sentence structure, ET? And what has this to do with what except the senility of toodlers?

 

[Zebra]

¿Succeeded? ¿What? Are you proud to be the grand duke of Baden who "wan" in the end? Because "the Prussians", the new nobles, wan? By the way: Prussia had conquered one by one Germany nation and made them to "colonies of Prussia" - no joke!!! - this was verbally written so in some of the new constitutions made from the Prussians. Later this British Prussification of Germany and the intrigues and lies of Prussia forced a military unity of Germany because the stupid French king declared war on Germany on reason of his "honor". What an absurd honor of a statesman to slaughter the own people in war. Unfortunatelly we had to win this stupid war on France in 1870. But who for heavens sake really needed all this new arrogant Prussian Brits in the tradition of Napoleon Bonaparte and Queen Victoria now in Germany? The Prussian blind obedience ("Kadavergehorsam") opened - together with many other factors - the way to World War 1 and was later the most mighty weapon of Adolf Hitler and his supercriminal gang for the downfall of Germany.

better write in German than in bad English

 

[zaangalewa]

better write in German than in bad English

Aha. The confused man who has no nothing to say tells others not to speak with others in bad English. You will also not understand me if I would speak in German with you. Or do you know now why you are a 13.8 billion years old existing reality although you would not exist in other histories of the universe?

 

[Zebra]

What for heavens sake could I have to do with your confusion?



I'm a German. I'm for example not able to translate the word "Kadavergehorsam" - an obedience which ignores that the result of this obedience will be the own death. So I call it "blind obedience" - what's not really the meaning but only an approximation. When I write the German word I give a native English speaker the ability to find out what I really think about. Perhaps exists such a structure also in the English language which I only do not know.

your sentences are not really English, but still German

and you are so full of hatred, that one does better not read your hateful attacks against anybody and anything.

#igno#

 

[Zebra]

I believe because he is German and probably an East German zealot who wishes for the good old days of control by the Stasi and the totalitarian government were back.

whatever he or she is, it is no use talking to this hateful being

 

[zaangalewa]

your sentences are not really English, but still German

So ask if you like to understand what you seem not to be able to understand - or don't read it. You are by the way the British Prussian who tries to give to me the order not to use the German grammar because I'm anyway not using the German grammar in my daily life in Germany. Why do you think I could suffer "blind obedience", Prussian? Only God is my judge.

 

[zaangalewa]

whatever he or she is, it is no use talking to this hateful being

Sapere aude,
Immanual Kant
incipe.
Horace

Dare to be wise,
Immanual Kant
begin immediatelly.
Horace

Hate preacher, Immanuel Kant was by the way a Prussian and his mother was from Nuremberg, Bavaria.

 

[zaangalewa]

your sentences are not really English, but still German

and you are so full of hatred, that one does better not read your hateful attacks against anybody and anything.

#igno#

Idiot and hate preacher: I will never understand why some people degrade themselves so drastically as you are doing and try to live a billion lightyears far from the possibilities, the talents, god gave them.

 

[Zebra]

I believe because he is German and probably an East German zealot who wishes for the good old days of control by the Stasi and the totalitarian government were back.

i dont think he is political

he just hates everybody and shouts nothing but insults

 

[Zebra]

In the immediate aftermath of the Second World War, Konrad Adenauer worked to construct a new Christian Democratic Union (CDU) political party in Germany's western occupied zones. He hoped the new CDU would be embraced by democratically minded Protestants and Catholics that would prevent the resurgence of the Prussianism that he felt had led to the rise of National Socialism and Hitler.

Adenauer's guiding vision was to integrate the new Federal Republic with other western states, especially with France and the United States, oppose Communism and build a reconstructed Germany. Adenauer recognized that the price of this Policy of Strength might lead to a permanently divided Germany. The leading opposition party advocated a united, Socialist (though anti-Communist) and neutral Germany.

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Adenauer prevailed, and though elderly at age 73, he would lead the West German government for the next 14 years. Taking advantage of opportunities provided by the developing Cold War and successfully balancing the political desires of the German people with those of the occupying western powers, Adenauer succeeded in restoring German national sovereignty, the establishment of close ties with the West, the reconciliation with France, and the unification of Europe; and the construction of a novel social market economy that led to the German “Economic Miracle.” His popularity waned in the early 1960s and he stepped down from power after one last triumph with the signing of the Franco-German Treaty which helped solidify the foundations of the European Union.

Adenauer was a stroke of luck.
And he wasreally popular

 

[zaangalewa]

i dont think he is political

he just hates everybody and shouts nothing but insults

Finally you say something at all. Wrong nonsense to the wrong person - but you say something. Now you have only to switch on your reality simulator and to bring this wrong simulation into balance with reality. Or you stay to be a sissy what we subsumize in Germany sometimes under the expression „Wein doch!“ = "Go ahead and cry!".

 

[zaangalewa]

Adenauer was a stroke of luck.
And he wasreally popular

„Demokratie ist mehr als eine parlamentarische Regierungsform, sie ist eine Weltanschauung, die wurzelt in der Auffassung von der Würde, dem Werte und den unveräußerlichen Rechten eines jeden einzelnen Menschen. Eine echte Demokratie muß diese unveräußerlichen Rechte und den Wert eines jeden einzelnen Menschen achten im staatlichen, im wirtschaftlichen und kulturellen Leben. Wer wirklich demokratisch denkt, muß Achtung vor dem anderen, vor dessen ehrlichem Wollen und Streben haben.“
Konrad Adenauer
“Democracy is more than a parliamentary form of government; it is a worldview rooted in the concept of the dignity, value, and inalienable rights of every individual human being. A true democracy must respect these inalienable rights and the value of each individual human being in political, economic, and cultural life. Anyone who thinks truly democratically must have respect for others, for their honest intentions and aspirations.“


„Wir stehen vor der Wahl zwischen Sklaverei und Freiheit. Wir wählen die Freiheit!“
Konrad Adenauer
“We are faced with a choice between slavery and freedom. We choose freedom!”

 

[Zebra]

The Morgenthau Plan for the occupation of Germany was conceived prior to the end of the Second World War in 1944. It was first proposed by United States Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau Jr. in a memorandum entitled Suggested Post-Surrender Program for Germany.

The plan proposed to eliminate Germany's ability to wage war by eliminating its arms industry, and the removal or destruction of other key industries basic to military strength. This included the removal or destruction of all industrial plants and equipment in the Ruhr.

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While the Morgenthau Plan had some influence on Allied planning for the occupation of Germany, it was not adopted. US occupation policies aimed at "industrial disarmament," but contained a number of deliberate "loopholes", limiting any action to short-term military measures and preventing large-scale destruction of mines and industrial plants, giving wide-ranging discretion to the military governor and the US War Department. From 1947, US policies aimed at restoring a "stable and productive Germany" and were soon followed by the Marshall Plan.

better .....

and the Kaufman Plan was worse

 

[whitehall]

Occupied Japan seemed to do quite well despite the nuclear attack. The problem with Germany was that FDR was a dying man when democrats fooled Americans into electing him for a 4th term and he gave away the country to his pal Uncle Joe Stalin. Harry Truman was in way over his head and didn't have a clue other then to adhere to FDR's agenda.

 

[zaangalewa]

better .....

and the Kaufman Plan was worse

What Theodore Newman Kaufman wrote was totally stupid. No one took this serios - except the Nazis because this superidiot had been a Jew and US-American. Indeed he had helped them.