What the national polls say about a 2020 Trump vs. Biden race.

[PoliticalChic]

IMO there is no way 1% Joe gets the nomination with the new crazy AOC democratic party. Biden is the left's Jeb. If Biden does get the nomination it will be an easy win for TRUMP.

Then why is Trump only ahead by 1 point over Biden in the great state of Texas in the latest polling there? In Michigan, Trump is behind Biden by 13 points. Nationally he is behind Biden by 10 points. I don't see any polling by anyone that shows Trump in a good position. All the polls show that he is in serious trouble.

Is this a serious question? These are the same polls that said Hillary was going to win in a landslide and that TRUMP had no path to the presidency.

October 25, 2016...NYTimes gave Hillary 93% chance of winning the election.
2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President?

 

[U2Edge]

IMO there is no way 1% Joe gets the nomination with the new crazy AOC democratic party. Biden is the left's Jeb. If Biden does get the nomination it will be an easy win for TRUMP.

Then why is Trump only ahead by 1 point over Biden in the great state of Texas in the latest polling there? In Michigan, Trump is behind Biden by 13 points. Nationally he is behind Biden by 10 points. I don't see any polling by anyone that shows Trump in a good position. All the polls show that he is in serious trouble.

Is this a serious question? These are the same polls that said Hillary was going to win in a landslide and that TRUMP had no path to the presidency.

The national polls predicted a narrow victory for Hillary Clinton of about 3 percentage points in the popular vote. Those polls were essentially correct, since she won by 2 percentage points in the popular vote. Trump lost by nearly 3 million votes, but pulled out a FLUKE win thanks to the electoral college and tiny, narrow victories in 3 states by a combined 70,000 votes.

90% of the time, the winner of the popular vote wins the electoral college. Trump has not shown he can win the popular vote, which means he is unlikely to win in 2020.

 

[U2Edge]

Its easy to say Trump will win. But show some unbiased evidence that indicates he can win in 2020. Like his approval rating or polling data. Just claiming that he will "kick your ass" is meaningless and irrelevant.

Also, let me remind you that the Republicans just lost the House Of Representatives. It belongs to the Democrats now. By January 2021, Democrats may have the White House and both houses of Congress. It will be fun watching the Trump supporters explain how that happened.

Here is some unbiased evidence that indicates that Trump can win in 2020. The Las Vegas betting odds. If you are so confident he will lose, put your money where your mouth is and win some cash. p.s. Trump also has history on his side. Its difficult to beat an incumbent president.
Cohen Testimony Has Zero Effect on 2020 Presidential Odds

Agreed that the GOP lost the House in 2018. We can disagree on the reasons why. IMHO it was because the MSM scared off (40) incumbent GOP congressmen. Another reason is that the dems put up good candidates in toss-up districts like Connor Lamb in Pittsburgh. Then Nancy and AOC whine when they vote to tell ICE when illegals try to buy guns. Primary them in 2020 and lose the House when the leftists try to promote their agenda.

In 2020 Barr'ing anything unusual, the GOP wins the presidency, keeps the Senate, and has a good shot at taking the House back. So we're looking at 2020 very differently. When the voters see the dem's agenda they will never vote for a dem. Here are the dem policies I'm tracking for 2020:
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare, aka rationed healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones"
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges only allow liberal speakers and professors who indoctrinate kids to be liberals or flunk out
20. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and paid for the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Obama/Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger.
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
31. Democrats refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
32. Democrats want to give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but won't help US citizens living in tent cities
33. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
34. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
35. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
36. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
37. Trump has Navarro and Lightheiser managing economic & Trade Policy, to bring back good jobs the dems have no one
38. Promote or excuse the murder of newborns, i.e. "infantacide"

Best case scenario for Trump is that he loses by only one or two states in the electoral college. The worst case scenario is that he only wins a total of 12 states and 64 electoral votes. If Texas and Arizona flip blue in 2020, this could be the outcome.

Trump may get slaughtered in 2020 and win only the following states:

South Carolina
Mississippi
Alabama
Oklahoma
Kansas
Nebraska
South Dakota
North Dakota
Wyoming
Idaho
Utah
Alaska

That's only 64 electoral votes.

 

[U2Edge]

Trumps average approval rating after 2 years as President in the GALLUP poll is 40%. That's the lowest average of any sitting President in history. It does not bode well for his 2020 re-election chances. What happens in Florida won't matter. The Democrats will secure victory e.asily in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Trump barley won these states by TINY margins in 2016. It won't happen in 2020. Without those states, Trump is going home on January 20, 2021.

Trump is up to 44%

Higher than before when he won the president

Remember the average is below the real average

Trump won more senate seats during the mid terms

True, but his average of all approval ratings taken, by GALLUP, since January 20, 2017 is 40%, the lowest for any sitting President in history. 44% is just is approval rating last month, Not the average of the past two years.

Gallup is one of the most bias and wrong


Rasmussen is best because it has likely voters and not just registered voters

GALLUP is the Gold standard when it comes to polling. They have been doing polling since the 1940s. Gallup can do a comparison of approval ratings between Trump and Truman. Rasmussen can't because they did not exist back then.

I can tell you about more than a few stealth union voters that say they will vote democrat to pollsters, but will actually vote for Trump. So the polls need to adjust for that. One more thing. Your polls only predict the "popular vote" here and there, which is irrelevant, how do the polls predict the Electoral College, which is the only poll that matters.

Over 90% of the time, the winner of the popular vote is the winner of electoral college. No President has EVER been re-elected without winning the popular vote!

 

[U2Edge]

IMO there is no way 1% Joe gets the nomination with the new crazy AOC democratic party. Biden is the left's Jeb. If Biden does get the nomination it will be an easy win for TRUMP.

Then why is Trump only ahead by 1 point over Biden in the great state of Texas in the latest polling there? In Michigan, Trump is behind Biden by 13 points. Nationally he is behind Biden by 10 points. I don't see any polling by anyone that shows Trump in a good position. All the polls show that he is in serious trouble.

Is this a serious question? These are the same polls that said Hillary was going to win in a landslide and that TRUMP had no path to the presidency.

October 25, 2016...NYTimes gave Hillary 93% chance of winning the election.
2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President?

She won by 3 million votes. A FLUKE in the electoral college allowed Trump to eek out a tiny victory. It was an unlikely result, but sometimes unlikely things happen. Very unlikely to happen in 2020.

 

[The Original Tree]

90% of Hillary Clintons votes came from just 5 places. Los Angelos, Chicago, New York City, New Orleans. and your Ass.

She only won 15% of The Geographical US.

To win a National Election, you cannot just appeal to such a narrow concentrated Demographic.

The Electoral College was designed to defeat that, and make sure that a President appealed to the widest possible cross section of The Country.

Trump won 85% of all the counties in THE US, and that is exactly how The Electoral College was supposed to Work.

I think he wins by an even wider margin now as any concerns about his ability to do the job have no merit, and scare tactics by The Left are going to fall on deaf ears.

Carry on with your propaganda campaign. You go girl.

People just aren't going to listen this time. It had some traction back in 2016...but you dimwits have painted yourself in a corner having accomplished nothing but division, calls for impeachment, your subpoena cannon, and your Nothing Burger waste of $40 Million Dollars on Moscow Mueller.

 

[kyzr]

Its easy to say Trump will win. But show some unbiased evidence that indicates he can win in 2020. Like his approval rating or polling data. Just claiming that he will "kick your ass" is meaningless and irrelevant.

Also, let me remind you that the Republicans just lost the House Of Representatives. It belongs to the Democrats now. By January 2021, Democrats may have the White House and both houses of Congress. It will be fun watching the Trump supporters explain how that happened.

Here is some unbiased evidence that indicates that Trump can win in 2020. The Las Vegas betting odds. If you are so confident he will lose, put your money where your mouth is and win some cash. p.s. Trump also has history on his side. Its difficult to beat an incumbent president.
Cohen Testimony Has Zero Effect on 2020 Presidential Odds

Agreed that the GOP lost the House in 2018. We can disagree on the reasons why. IMHO it was because the MSM scared off (40) incumbent GOP congressmen. Another reason is that the dems put up good candidates in toss-up districts like Connor Lamb in Pittsburgh. Then Nancy and AOC whine when they vote to tell ICE when illegals try to buy guns. Primary them in 2020 and lose the House when the leftists try to promote their agenda.

In 2020 Barr'ing anything unusual, the GOP wins the presidency, keeps the Senate, and has a good shot at taking the House back. So we're looking at 2020 very differently. When the voters see the dem's agenda they will never vote for a dem. Here are the dem policies I'm tracking for 2020:
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare, aka rationed healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones"
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges only allow liberal speakers and professors who indoctrinate kids to be liberals or flunk out
20. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and paid for the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Obama/Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger.
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
31. Democrats refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
32. Democrats want to give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but won't help US citizens living in tent cities
33. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
34. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
35. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
36. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
37. Trump has Navarro and Lightheiser managing economic & Trade Policy, to bring back good jobs the dems have no one
38. Promote or excuse the murder of newborns, i.e. "infantacide"

Best case scenario for Trump is that he loses by only one or two states in the electoral college. The worst case scenario is that he only wins a total of 12 states and 64 electoral votes. If Texas and Arizona flip blue in 2020, this could be the outcome.

Trump may get slaughtered in 2020 and win only the following states:

South Carolina
Mississippi
Alabama
Oklahoma
Kansas
Nebraska
South Dakota
North Dakota
Wyoming
Idaho
Utah
Alaska

That's only 64 electoral votes.

I see an unqualified opinion, but nothing to back it up. So lets just say we'll see in 2020. Remember how Hillary had a 95% probability of winning in 2016?

 

[PoliticalChic]

IMO there is no way 1% Joe gets the nomination with the new crazy AOC democratic party. Biden is the left's Jeb. If Biden does get the nomination it will be an easy win for TRUMP.

Then why is Trump only ahead by 1 point over Biden in the great state of Texas in the latest polling there? In Michigan, Trump is behind Biden by 13 points. Nationally he is behind Biden by 10 points. I don't see any polling by anyone that shows Trump in a good position. All the polls show that he is in serious trouble.

Is this a serious question? These are the same polls that said Hillary was going to win in a landslide and that TRUMP had no path to the presidency.

October 25, 2016...NYTimes gave Hillary 93% chance of winning the election.
2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President?

She won by 3 million votes. A FLUKE in the electoral college allowed Trump to eek out a tiny victory. It was an unlikely result, but sometimes unlikely things happen. Very unlikely to happen in 2020.

No she didn't.

In America we count the votes of citizens, not illegals that Democrats encourage to vote.


illegals get driver's licenses that say no voting.....

Really?

I say Democrat's who work the polls ignore that blue bar and simply look at the name on the driver's license.

And guess what?

"It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes.
.... if you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this election."
It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California


Think California is loaded with illegal alien voters??????

You betcha'!!!!





California has the largest number of illegal immigrants in the United States, with an estimated 2.4 million unauthorized immigrants making up about 6.3 percent of the state's total population, according to the Pew Research Center.Sep 14, 2015

iIllegal Immigration Statistics in California - Newsmax.com
www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/illegal-immigration-California/2015/09/14/.../691462/





You do know that Obama told illegals to vote....don't you?

 

[U2Edge]

90% of Hillary Clintons votes came from just 5 places. Los Angelos, Chicago, New York City, New Orleans. and your Ass.

She only won 15% of The Geographical US.

To win a National Election, you cannot just appeal to such a narrow concentrated Demographic.

The Electoral College was designed to defeat that, and make sure that a President appealed to the widest possible cross section of The Country.

Trump won 85% of all the counties in THE US, and that is exactly how The Electoral College was supposed to Work.

I think he wins by an even wider margin now as any concerns about his ability to do the job have no merit, and scare tactics by The Left are going to fall on deaf ears.

Carry on with your propaganda campaign. You go girl.

People just aren't going to listen this time. It had some traction back in 2016...but you dimwits have painted yourself in a corner having accomplished nothing but division, calls for impeachment, your subpoena cannon, and your Nothing Burger waste of $40 Million Dollars on Moscow Mueller.

The Democrats did win back the House Of Representatives which The Donald is not happy about. I support the electoral college for some the reasons you mentioned. Having said that, the winner of the popular vote is still more than 90% of the time also the winner of the electoral college. No sitting President has ever been re-elected without winning the popular vote.

The polling to date on Trump VS. Biden does not look good for Trump at all. Trump has the lowest average approval rating of any President in history after over two years in office. His average after two years is 40%. The next lowest average was Truman at 45% and he declined to run for a second election after his first victory in 1948.

I'm waiting for the next Trump VS. Biden matchup poll to be released. Will see if Trump's position improves at all.

 

[U2Edge]

Its easy to say Trump will win. But show some unbiased evidence that indicates he can win in 2020. Like his approval rating or polling data. Just claiming that he will "kick your ass" is meaningless and irrelevant.

Also, let me remind you that the Republicans just lost the House Of Representatives. It belongs to the Democrats now. By January 2021, Democrats may have the White House and both houses of Congress. It will be fun watching the Trump supporters explain how that happened.

Here is some unbiased evidence that indicates that Trump can win in 2020. The Las Vegas betting odds. If you are so confident he will lose, put your money where your mouth is and win some cash. p.s. Trump also has history on his side. Its difficult to beat an incumbent president.
Cohen Testimony Has Zero Effect on 2020 Presidential Odds

Agreed that the GOP lost the House in 2018. We can disagree on the reasons why. IMHO it was because the MSM scared off (40) incumbent GOP congressmen. Another reason is that the dems put up good candidates in toss-up districts like Connor Lamb in Pittsburgh. Then Nancy and AOC whine when they vote to tell ICE when illegals try to buy guns. Primary them in 2020 and lose the House when the leftists try to promote their agenda.

In 2020 Barr'ing anything unusual, the GOP wins the presidency, keeps the Senate, and has a good shot at taking the House back. So we're looking at 2020 very differently. When the voters see the dem's agenda they will never vote for a dem. Here are the dem policies I'm tracking for 2020:
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare, aka rationed healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones"
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges only allow liberal speakers and professors who indoctrinate kids to be liberals or flunk out
20. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and paid for the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Obama/Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger.
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
31. Democrats refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
32. Democrats want to give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but won't help US citizens living in tent cities
33. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
34. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
35. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
36. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
37. Trump has Navarro and Lightheiser managing economic & Trade Policy, to bring back good jobs the dems have no one
38. Promote or excuse the murder of newborns, i.e. "infantacide"

Best case scenario for Trump is that he loses by only one or two states in the electoral college. The worst case scenario is that he only wins a total of 12 states and 64 electoral votes. If Texas and Arizona flip blue in 2020, this could be the outcome.

Trump may get slaughtered in 2020 and win only the following states:

South Carolina
Mississippi
Alabama
Oklahoma
Kansas
Nebraska
South Dakota
North Dakota
Wyoming
Idaho
Utah
Alaska

That's only 64 electoral votes.

I see an unqualified opinion, but nothing to back it up. So lets just say we'll see in 2020. Remember how Hillary had a 95% probability of winning in 2016?

She won by 3 million votes. The polls were right. A fluke of the electoral college is how Trump pulled out a victory. Its rare that it happens. No sitting President has been re-elected without winning the Popular vote.

 

[U2Edge]

IMO there is no way 1% Joe gets the nomination with the new crazy AOC democratic party. Biden is the left's Jeb. If Biden does get the nomination it will be an easy win for TRUMP.

Then why is Trump only ahead by 1 point over Biden in the great state of Texas in the latest polling there? In Michigan, Trump is behind Biden by 13 points. Nationally he is behind Biden by 10 points. I don't see any polling by anyone that shows Trump in a good position. All the polls show that he is in serious trouble.

Is this a serious question? These are the same polls that said Hillary was going to win in a landslide and that TRUMP had no path to the presidency.

October 25, 2016...NYTimes gave Hillary 93% chance of winning the election.
2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President?

She won by 3 million votes. A FLUKE in the electoral college allowed Trump to eek out a tiny victory. It was an unlikely result, but sometimes unlikely things happen. Very unlikely to happen in 2020.

No she didn't.

In America we count the votes of citizens, not illegals that Democrats encourage to vote.


illegals get driver's licenses that say no voting.....

Really?

I say Democrat's who work the polls ignore that blue bar and simply look at the name on the driver's license.

And guess what?

"It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes.
.... if you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this election."
It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California


Think California is loaded with illegal alien voters??????

You betcha'!!!!





California has the largest number of illegal immigrants in the United States, with an estimated 2.4 million unauthorized immigrants making up about 6.3 percent of the state's total population, according to the Pew Research Center.Sep 14, 2015

iIllegal Immigration Statistics in California - Newsmax.com
www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/illegal-immigration-California/2015/09/14/.../691462/





You do know that Obama told illegals to vote....don't you?

I wish this were true, because then Trumps chances of winning in 2020 would be even lower.

 

[U2Edge]

Its easy to say Trump will win. But show some unbiased evidence that indicates he can win in 2020. Like his approval rating or polling data. Just claiming that he will "kick your ass" is meaningless and irrelevant.

Also, let me remind you that the Republicans just lost the House Of Representatives. It belongs to the Democrats now. By January 2021, Democrats may have the White House and both houses of Congress. It will be fun watching the Trump supporters explain how that happened.

Here is some unbiased evidence that indicates that Trump can win in 2020. The Las Vegas betting odds. If you are so confident he will lose, put your money where your mouth is and win some cash. p.s. Trump also has history on his side. Its difficult to beat an incumbent president.
Cohen Testimony Has Zero Effect on 2020 Presidential Odds

Agreed that the GOP lost the House in 2018. We can disagree on the reasons why. IMHO it was because the MSM scared off (40) incumbent GOP congressmen. Another reason is that the dems put up good candidates in toss-up districts like Connor Lamb in Pittsburgh. Then Nancy and AOC whine when they vote to tell ICE when illegals try to buy guns. Primary them in 2020 and lose the House when the leftists try to promote their agenda.

In 2020 Barr'ing anything unusual, the GOP wins the presidency, keeps the Senate, and has a good shot at taking the House back. So we're looking at 2020 very differently. When the voters see the dem's agenda they will never vote for a dem. Here are the dem policies I'm tracking for 2020:
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare, aka rationed healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones"
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges only allow liberal speakers and professors who indoctrinate kids to be liberals or flunk out
20. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and paid for the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Obama/Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger.
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
31. Democrats refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
32. Democrats want to give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but won't help US citizens living in tent cities
33. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
34. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
35. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
36. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
37. Trump has Navarro and Lightheiser managing economic & Trade Policy, to bring back good jobs the dems have no one
38. Promote or excuse the murder of newborns, i.e. "infantacide"

Best case scenario for Trump is that he loses by only one or two states in the electoral college. The worst case scenario is that he only wins a total of 12 states and 64 electoral votes. If Texas and Arizona flip blue in 2020, this could be the outcome.

Trump may get slaughtered in 2020 and win only the following states:

South Carolina
Mississippi
Alabama
Oklahoma
Kansas
Nebraska
South Dakota
North Dakota
Wyoming
Idaho
Utah
Alaska

That's only 64 electoral votes.

Ok, I got to revise this list. There four other states that I think Trump will win, even with the worst night possible for Trump.

West Virginia
Kentucky
Tennessee
Arkansas

South Carolina
Mississippi
Alabama
Oklahoma
Kansas
Nebraska
South Dakota
North Dakota
Wyoming
Idaho
Utah
Alaska

So that is 94 electoral votes. Biden wins with 444 electoral votes to Trumps 94 electoral votes.

 

[kyzr]

Its easy to say Trump will win. But show some unbiased evidence that indicates he can win in 2020. Like his approval rating or polling data. Just claiming that he will "kick your ass" is meaningless and irrelevant.

Also, let me remind you that the Republicans just lost the House Of Representatives. It belongs to the Democrats now. By January 2021, Democrats may have the White House and both houses of Congress. It will be fun watching the Trump supporters explain how that happened.

Here is some unbiased evidence that indicates that Trump can win in 2020. The Las Vegas betting odds. If you are so confident he will lose, put your money where your mouth is and win some cash. p.s. Trump also has history on his side. Its difficult to beat an incumbent president.
Cohen Testimony Has Zero Effect on 2020 Presidential Odds

Agreed that the GOP lost the House in 2018. We can disagree on the reasons why. IMHO it was because the MSM scared off (40) incumbent GOP congressmen. Another reason is that the dems put up good candidates in toss-up districts like Connor Lamb in Pittsburgh. Then Nancy and AOC whine when they vote to tell ICE when illegals try to buy guns. Primary them in 2020 and lose the House when the leftists try to promote their agenda.

In 2020 Barr'ing anything unusual, the GOP wins the presidency, keeps the Senate, and has a good shot at taking the House back. So we're looking at 2020 very differently. When the voters see the dem's agenda they will never vote for a dem. Here are the dem policies I'm tracking for 2020:
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare, aka rationed healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones"
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges only allow liberal speakers and professors who indoctrinate kids to be liberals or flunk out
20. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and paid for the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Obama/Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger.
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
31. Democrats refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
32. Democrats want to give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but won't help US citizens living in tent cities
33. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
34. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
35. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
36. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
37. Trump has Navarro and Lightheiser managing economic & Trade Policy, to bring back good jobs the dems have no one
38. Promote or excuse the murder of newborns, i.e. "infantacide"

Best case scenario for Trump is that he loses by only one or two states in the electoral college. The worst case scenario is that he only wins a total of 12 states and 64 electoral votes. If Texas and Arizona flip blue in 2020, this could be the outcome.

Trump may get slaughtered in 2020 and win only the following states:

South Carolina
Mississippi
Alabama
Oklahoma
Kansas
Nebraska
South Dakota
North Dakota
Wyoming
Idaho
Utah
Alaska

That's only 64 electoral votes.

I see an unqualified opinion, but nothing to back it up. So lets just say we'll see in 2020. Remember how Hillary had a 95% probability of winning in 2016?

She won by 3 million votes. The polls were right. A fluke of the electoral college is how Trump pulled out a victory. Its rare that it happens. No sitting President has been re-elected without winning the Popular vote.

Stop with that bullshit. HILLARY LOST TO TRUMP. There is no "popular vote" there is only the Electoral College.
Watch the video and see how the MSM went thru all the states and said that there was no way Trump could win the election.
The MSM/CNN said in the video that Hillary had a 95% probability of winning the election. Its the election that matters not the popular vote. The polls were all wrong.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Total BS

The 2020 election is just like the 2016

Same states in play


Trump won 5 states and the election by going for the workers

The same thing again

This time the proof is there more jobs

Vietnam signs a deal worth 15 billion worth of American goods while trump was in Vietnam

His jobs programs will be kicking in stronger and stronger each month

He will win easily 2020

Especially when Barr starts investigations into the democrat crimes

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Wrong again wrong

The same voters at play

Florida mid terms both the state wide repubs won. Over a long term Demi senator

Trump has higher approval ratings today than the mid terms where he increased the republicans senators

Trumps average approval rating after 2 years as President in the GALLUP poll is 40%. That's the lowest average of any sitting President in history. It does not bode well for his 2020 re-election chances. What happens in Florida won't matter. The Democrats will secure victory e.asily in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Trump barley won these states by TINY margins in 2016. It won't happen in 2020. Without those states, Trump is going home on January 20, 2021.

Trump is up to 44%

Higher than before when he won the president

Remember the average is below the real average

Trump won more senate seats during the mid terms

True, but his average of all approval ratings taken, by GALLUP, since January 20, 2017 is 40%, the lowest for any sitting President in history. 44% is just is approval rating last month, Not the average of the past two years.

Gallup is one of the most bias and wrong


Rasmussen is best because it has likely voters and not just registered voters

GALLUP is the Gold standard when it comes to polling. They have been doing polling since the 1940s. Gallup can do a comparison of approval ratings between Trump and Truman. Rasmussen can't because they did not exist back then.

Nope Gallup has changed to support the system

Polling registered voters is not good enough as polling likely voters


If 18 yr olds are less likely to vote

And since they are polled by Gallup as equal to likely voters

Then that is what makes Gallup a fraud poll compared to rasmussen

 

[GreenAndBlue]

This is why only Rasmussen is a legit poll

......,,

In the 2012 election, voters between the ages of 18-29 made up just 19 percent of the electorate — that's HALF the share of the Baby Boomer votingbloc (who were 38 percent of the electorate). In fact, millennials continue to have the lowest voter turnout of any age group.May 16, 2016


.......

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Its easy to say Trump will win. But show some unbiased evidence that indicates he can win in 2020. Like his approval rating or polling data. Just claiming that he will "kick your ass" is meaningless and irrelevant.

Also, let me remind you that the Republicans just lost the House Of Representatives. It belongs to the Democrats now. By January 2021, Democrats may have the White House and both houses of Congress. It will be fun watching the Trump supporters explain how that happened.

Trump is higher when he DiD win


That's the proof he will win again

Trumps never had approval rating above 45%. He actually got just under 46% of the popular vote. His most popular month was when he was elected. Its been down hill since then. He barely got elected to begin with. Now he is tied with Biden in states like Texas and Arizona. If these polls stay this way, Trump could lose in the biggest landslide loss since the 1980s for a President.

Wrong

Trump is not tied in Texas

Only Rasmussen polls likely voters

Weighted too high for the normal turnout of the young

 

[U2Edge]

Its easy to say Trump will win. But show some unbiased evidence that indicates he can win in 2020. Like his approval rating or polling data. Just claiming that he will "kick your ass" is meaningless and irrelevant.

Also, let me remind you that the Republicans just lost the House Of Representatives. It belongs to the Democrats now. By January 2021, Democrats may have the White House and both houses of Congress. It will be fun watching the Trump supporters explain how that happened.

Here is some unbiased evidence that indicates that Trump can win in 2020. The Las Vegas betting odds. If you are so confident he will lose, put your money where your mouth is and win some cash. p.s. Trump also has history on his side. Its difficult to beat an incumbent president.
Cohen Testimony Has Zero Effect on 2020 Presidential Odds

Agreed that the GOP lost the House in 2018. We can disagree on the reasons why. IMHO it was because the MSM scared off (40) incumbent GOP congressmen. Another reason is that the dems put up good candidates in toss-up districts like Connor Lamb in Pittsburgh. Then Nancy and AOC whine when they vote to tell ICE when illegals try to buy guns. Primary them in 2020 and lose the House when the leftists try to promote their agenda.

In 2020 Barr'ing anything unusual, the GOP wins the presidency, keeps the Senate, and has a good shot at taking the House back. So we're looking at 2020 very differently. When the voters see the dem's agenda they will never vote for a dem. Here are the dem policies I'm tracking for 2020:
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare, aka rationed healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones"
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges only allow liberal speakers and professors who indoctrinate kids to be liberals or flunk out
20. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and paid for the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Obama/Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger.
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
31. Democrats refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
32. Democrats want to give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but won't help US citizens living in tent cities
33. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
34. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
35. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
36. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
37. Trump has Navarro and Lightheiser managing economic & Trade Policy, to bring back good jobs the dems have no one
38. Promote or excuse the murder of newborns, i.e. "infantacide"

Best case scenario for Trump is that he loses by only one or two states in the electoral college. The worst case scenario is that he only wins a total of 12 states and 64 electoral votes. If Texas and Arizona flip blue in 2020, this could be the outcome.

Trump may get slaughtered in 2020 and win only the following states:

South Carolina
Mississippi
Alabama
Oklahoma
Kansas
Nebraska
South Dakota
North Dakota
Wyoming
Idaho
Utah
Alaska

That's only 64 electoral votes.

I see an unqualified opinion, but nothing to back it up. So lets just say we'll see in 2020. Remember how Hillary had a 95% probability of winning in 2016?

She won by 3 million votes. The polls were right. A fluke of the electoral college is how Trump pulled out a victory. Its rare that it happens. No sitting President has been re-elected without winning the Popular vote.

Stop with that bullshit. HILLARY LOST TO TRUMP. There is no "popular vote" there is only the Electoral College.
Watch the video and see how the MSM went thru all the states and said that there was no way Trump could win the election.
The MSM/CNN said in the video that Hillary had a 95% probability of winning the election. Its the election that matters not the popular vote. The polls were all wrong.

01. The National Polls are predicting the popular vote.

02. Over 90% of the time, the winner of the popular vote wins the electoral college. There have been 58 Presidential elections. In only 5 of those elections, did the popular vote winner, fail to win the electoral college. Its a rare fluke when the popular vote winner is not the winner of the electoral college.

03. The National Polls predicted Hillary Clinton would win the popular vote.

04. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote proving that the polls were correct.

05. Trump's victory in the electoral college was a rare fluke and it was a victory by very tiny margins in three states that the Hillary Campaign had neglected in terms of visits and funding.

06. One news organization predicted Hillary has a 95% chance of winning is not representative of all polling organizations and all elections before that time or since that time. The prediction also was NOT 100% chance of winning either.

07. The national polls correctly predicted the popular vote in 2016. No sitting President has ever been re-elected without winning the popular vote.

08. There is such a thing as rare win under unlikely conditions based on probability. That is exactly what happened in 2016. Trump was lucky. You can be lucky once, but it would not be rational to believe that 2016 shows or proves that Trump is going to win in 2020. The razer thin margin of victory and how improbable the victory was in 2016 makes it extremely unlikely that situation will repeat itself in 2020.

09. Trump will not be re-elected President in 2020 without winning the popular vote. The average of his approval ratings the past two years and the early polling match ups against Biden done by multiple polling agencies, all show that Trumps chances in 2020 are even less likely than they were in 2016.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Please run the male Hillary.

/——/ The make Hillary? You mean Manchella Obama?

 

[Darkwind]

How'd that work out for you last time?