What the Chauvin trial reveals.

[sealybobo]

he still doesn't know that Zimmerman isn't white. That mere fact blows up his entire thesis.

Zimmerman was white (according to Sealy) because Sealy's a racist who is exploiting blacks because Sealy is a racist.

It it politically served Sealy for Zimmerman to be Latino, Sealy would suddenly get that he's Latino.

It's like Asians and Jews who go back and forth as people of color or whites as Sealy and the Nazi Democrats exploit them. You're either a white man or Democrats exploit you. Or both as you point out with alternately Hispanic/white guy Zimmerman

Do cops pick on Latinos? Asians? Jews? Nope. Just blacks. And it doesn't even have to be in a hood. It could be a black guy living in the white suburbs. The cops treat them differently/worse.

Data confirms that police treat Black Americans with less respect

New research out of Stanford University substantiates what Black America has always known – that police officers treat Blacks differently than they do whites.

www.prisonpolicy.org

Just blacks? Really? No other minorities, just blacks.

It's whatever serves Sealy's political agenda. For example, the Hispanic Zimmerman was according to Sealy "white" because he killed a black. If the cops had killed Zimmerman, then Sealy would be screaming they killed a Hispanic.

Cops killed an armed black man Jacob Blake and it was the cops fault. Then in DC the cops killed an unarmed white woman and it was the white woman's fault.

Sealy is a racist. He says he's pro black, but when a black tries to leave his Democrat plantation, Sealy and his gang of thugs show them that the Democrat party is the party of racism, slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow and segregation and blacks are still their property.

One thing Sealy does not care about are all the blacks killed by blacks because he hasn't figured out how to exploit that.

Sealy is a sick, manipulative fuck

Hispanics aren't complaining that cops are abusing/murdering them. As long as they don't have an accent they are treated just like you are by the cops.

You just love to make blanket statements about racial groups, don't you?

I wonder, did you ever hear of stop and frisk? That wasn't opposed just for targeting blacks, but rather blacks and Latinos.

How about this? :
Or this? : ‘We’re suffering the same abuses’: Latinos hear their stories echoed in police brutality protests
Or this? : Why aren't more people talking about Latinos killed by police?
Or this? : It’s time to talk about police violence against Latinos
Or this? : Say Their Names: Latino Lives Lost to Police Brutality (OPINION)
Or this? : OPINION: Stop ignoring the police killings of Latinos

And it's not just blacks and Latinos, of course : The forgotten minority in police shootings - CNN

Native Lives Matter: The Overlooked Police Brutality Against Native Americans.

Jason Pero is tragically the latest name in the trend of violence against Native Americans by law enforcement.

lakotalaw.org

But other minorities don't have any problems with police, right?

Yes they do. So you agree, the police need to be reformed.

Like I said to someone else yesterday, raising the minimum wage would mostly help the black community because a very large percentage of blacks work for minimum wage. Whites not so much.

So reforming police will mostly help blacks, but it will also help other minorities and even white guys like me who have run into dickhead cops with attitudes.

Did you see this morning a latino man was murdered by cops. It's bullshit. Has to stop.

Outrage grows as new video shows Latino man dying after Bay Area police pin him for 4 minutes

Outrage grows as new video shows Latino man dying after Bay Area police pin him for 4 minutes

Mario Gonzalez can be heard saying, 'I didn't do nothing, OK?' before losing consciousness. Family members compare his death to George Floyd's.

www.latimes.com

You told someone that a "very large percentage of blacks work for minimum wage," did you? According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 1.8% of blacks work at or below minimum wage. To compare, 1.2% of Asians, 1.3% of Latinos, and 1.4% of whites work at or below minimum wage.

As for those making minimum wage, for blacks it's 0.5%, Asians 0.1%, Latinos 0.3%, whites 0.3%.

https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2020/pdf/home.pdf

Do you consider 0.5% to be a "very large percentage"?

There's nothing wrong with police reform, nor with helping minority communities. There is, however, something wrong with tossing around a bunch of generalizations (some of which are false) and incorrect statements.

I don’t know what to tell you if you don’t believe women and people of color will benefit most from raising minimum wage.

The demographic that will benefit the least is white men btw

Blacks benefit from losing their jobs. Keep em poor and dependent, your racist strategy. And if they try to leave the Democrat plantation, remind them that Democrats are also the party of lynching

This is just right wing bullshit. You can't stay on topic and you go off on conspiracy theories. Hard to debate with someone like you, stupid.

Liar. Everything the Democrat Nazi party does to blacks is designed to keep them poor and dependent on your racist, fascist party

fuck you. Look at what the mirrorthief said about Floyd. This is what we know you Republicans think about black people. So you can call us liberals Nazi's all you want. We know who the real kkk is. It's you guys in the GOP.

Is the mirrorthief a conservative? Of course he is. Why would black people ever vote for the same people that nazi supports?

Almost all Republicans say Floyd was murdered, racist garbage. Pedal your hate shit somewhere else

Bullshit bitch!

Thirty-six percent of those surveyed described Floyd’s death as murder, compared to 60 percent who said the same last June. Seventeen percent said they didn’t know how to describe it, compared to only 4 percent who said the same last year.

Why did 24% change their minds? What could they have possibly seen to change their minds? I can tell you this. None of them were democrats. None of them were BLM supporters.

Poll: Number who think George Floyd’s death was murder down more than 20 percent

The proportion of Americans who think that George Floyd’s death in police custody last May was murder is down more than 20 percent, according to a USA Today-Ipsos Poll released Frida…

thehill.com

The poll found that 64 percent of blacks viewed Floyd’s death as murder and whites only 28 percent.

Only 28% of whites? That's hardly ALMOST ALL REPUBLICANS.

 

[kaz]

he still doesn't know that Zimmerman isn't white. That mere fact blows up his entire thesis.

Zimmerman was white (according to Sealy) because Sealy's a racist who is exploiting blacks because Sealy is a racist.

It it politically served Sealy for Zimmerman to be Latino, Sealy would suddenly get that he's Latino.

It's like Asians and Jews who go back and forth as people of color or whites as Sealy and the Nazi Democrats exploit them. You're either a white man or Democrats exploit you. Or both as you point out with alternately Hispanic/white guy Zimmerman

Do cops pick on Latinos? Asians? Jews? Nope. Just blacks. And it doesn't even have to be in a hood. It could be a black guy living in the white suburbs. The cops treat them differently/worse.

Data confirms that police treat Black Americans with less respect

New research out of Stanford University substantiates what Black America has always known – that police officers treat Blacks differently than they do whites.

www.prisonpolicy.org

Just blacks? Really? No other minorities, just blacks.

It's whatever serves Sealy's political agenda. For example, the Hispanic Zimmerman was according to Sealy "white" because he killed a black. If the cops had killed Zimmerman, then Sealy would be screaming they killed a Hispanic.

Cops killed an armed black man Jacob Blake and it was the cops fault. Then in DC the cops killed an unarmed white woman and it was the white woman's fault.

Sealy is a racist. He says he's pro black, but when a black tries to leave his Democrat plantation, Sealy and his gang of thugs show them that the Democrat party is the party of racism, slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow and segregation and blacks are still their property.

One thing Sealy does not care about are all the blacks killed by blacks because he hasn't figured out how to exploit that.

Sealy is a sick, manipulative fuck

Hispanics aren't complaining that cops are abusing/murdering them. As long as they don't have an accent they are treated just like you are by the cops.

You just love to make blanket statements about racial groups, don't you?

I wonder, did you ever hear of stop and frisk? That wasn't opposed just for targeting blacks, but rather blacks and Latinos.

How about this? :
Or this? : ‘We’re suffering the same abuses’: Latinos hear their stories echoed in police brutality protests
Or this? : Why aren't more people talking about Latinos killed by police?
Or this? : It’s time to talk about police violence against Latinos
Or this? : Say Their Names: Latino Lives Lost to Police Brutality (OPINION)
Or this? : OPINION: Stop ignoring the police killings of Latinos

And it's not just blacks and Latinos, of course : The forgotten minority in police shootings - CNN

Native Lives Matter: The Overlooked Police Brutality Against Native Americans.

Jason Pero is tragically the latest name in the trend of violence against Native Americans by law enforcement.

lakotalaw.org

But other minorities don't have any problems with police, right?

Yes they do. So you agree, the police need to be reformed.

Like I said to someone else yesterday, raising the minimum wage would mostly help the black community because a very large percentage of blacks work for minimum wage. Whites not so much.

So reforming police will mostly help blacks, but it will also help other minorities and even white guys like me who have run into dickhead cops with attitudes.

Did you see this morning a latino man was murdered by cops. It's bullshit. Has to stop.

Outrage grows as new video shows Latino man dying after Bay Area police pin him for 4 minutes

Outrage grows as new video shows Latino man dying after Bay Area police pin him for 4 minutes

Mario Gonzalez can be heard saying, 'I didn't do nothing, OK?' before losing consciousness. Family members compare his death to George Floyd's.

www.latimes.com

You told someone that a "very large percentage of blacks work for minimum wage," did you? According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 1.8% of blacks work at or below minimum wage. To compare, 1.2% of Asians, 1.3% of Latinos, and 1.4% of whites work at or below minimum wage.

As for those making minimum wage, for blacks it's 0.5%, Asians 0.1%, Latinos 0.3%, whites 0.3%.

https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2020/pdf/home.pdf

Do you consider 0.5% to be a "very large percentage"?

There's nothing wrong with police reform, nor with helping minority communities. There is, however, something wrong with tossing around a bunch of generalizations (some of which are false) and incorrect statements.

I don’t know what to tell you if you don’t believe women and people of color will benefit most from raising minimum wage.

The demographic that will benefit the least is white men btw

Blacks benefit from losing their jobs. Keep em poor and dependent, your racist strategy. And if they try to leave the Democrat plantation, remind them that Democrats are also the party of lynching

This is just right wing bullshit. You can't stay on topic and you go off on conspiracy theories. Hard to debate with someone like you, stupid.

Liar. Everything the Democrat Nazi party does to blacks is designed to keep them poor and dependent on your racist, fascist party

fuck you. Look at what the mirrorthief said about Floyd. This is what we know you Republicans think about black people. So you can call us liberals Nazi's all you want. We know who the real kkk is. It's you guys in the GOP.

Is the mirrorthief a conservative? Of course he is. Why would black people ever vote for the same people that nazi supports?

Almost all Republicans say Floyd was murdered, racist garbage. Pedal your hate shit somewhere else

Bullshit bitch!

Thirty-six percent of those surveyed described Floyd’s death as murder, compared to 60 percent who said the same last June. Seventeen percent said they didn’t know how to describe it, compared to only 4 percent who said the same last year.

Why did 24% change their minds? What could they have possibly seen to change their minds? I can tell you this. None of them were democrats. None of them were BLM supporters.

Poll: Number who think George Floyd’s death was murder down more than 20 percent

The proportion of Americans who think that George Floyd’s death in police custody last May was murder is down more than 20 percent, according to a USA Today-Ipsos Poll released Frida…

thehill.com

The poll found that 64 percent of blacks viewed Floyd’s death as murder and whites only 28 percent.

Only 28% of whites? That's hardly ALMOST ALL REPUBLICANS.

God you're a racist. You just have to squeeze out of every opportunity to exploit blacks. You still wear black face, don't you?

 

[jc456]

State Representative Will Dismukes took part in an event marking the KKK grand wizard and former Confederate Army General, Nathan Bedford Forrest, as Alabama honoured the late Georgia Democrat this weekend.

where's a link?

 

[jc456]

I'm sure a lot of kids who have rich father's and father in laws can pass on disability payments. But most of you even if you are rich will still take those checks. Do you need a great fucking example? John McCain. Married to a millionaire and still getting government checks every month for being 100% disabled. First of all, he wasn't 100% disabled. If he was he wouldn't have been able to work. So he was a senator making 6 figures and would get a pension after he retired, also had a millionaire wife and yet still collected 100% disability payments every month his entire life even though the mother fucker hiked the Grand Canyon every year.

you sure can't stay on topic.

 

[Ray9]

There is almost certainly going to be a mistrial in this case.

Brandon Mitchell, Derek Chauvin juror who attended pre-trial rally, may jeopardize guilty verdict

A juror in the Derek Chauvin trial may have jeopardized the guilty verdict by attending a rally last year and wearing a “Get Your Knee Off Our Necks/BLM” T-shirt, raising questions about whether he told the truth during jury selection.

www.washingtontimes.com

 

[sealybobo]

why did Trevon Martin fight with Zimmerman?

I think I've changed my mind about this case. Zimmerman, not guilty. Based on a recent experience I had with a young black male who purposely slowed up while walking across a cross walk so that I had to stop completely. Then he slowly got out of the way and looked at me like I'm the one with the problem. Correll pointed out how these young thugs are just looking for a sign of disrespect in order to justify them getting violent.

I know Zimmerman was an asshole rent a cop want a be but was Trevon acting right? If a guy with a gun who lives in the community is questioning me a visitor, I just answer his questions respectfully. And then later I call the cops. I don't try to fight him.

 

[Rigby5]

I think I've changed my mind about this case. Zimmerman, not guilty. Based on a recent experience I had with a young black male who purposely slowed up while walking across a cross walk so that I had to stop completely. Then he slowly got out of the way and looked at me like I'm the one with the problem. Correll pointed out how these young thugs are just looking for a sign of disrespect in order to justify them getting violent.

I know Zimmerman was an asshole rent a cop want a be but was Trevon acting right? If a guy with a gun who lives in the community is questioning me a visitor, I just answer his questions respectfully. And then later I call the cops. I don't try to fight him.

The problem is that Zimmerman did not just ask Martin questions.
Knowing the neighborhood, Zimmerman ran south and east while Martin walked east and then south, so Zimmerman had cut him off and was blocking his way. Being dark out, that is a very intimidating thing for Zimmerman to do.
Martin did not know Zimmerman had a gun, and no one knows who started the physical fight.
You are assuming Martin started the fight, and I doubt that since at Martin's age, they don't yet really know how to fight.
Zimmerman had over 100 pounds on skinny Martin.

 

[jc456]

The problem is that Zimmerman did not just ask Martin questions.
Knowing the neighborhood, Zimmerman ran south and east while Martin walked east and then south, so Zimmerman had cut him off and was blocking his way. Being dark out, that is a very intimidating thing for Zimmerman to do.
Martin did not know Zimmerman had a gun, and no one knows who started the physical fight.
You are assuming Martin started the fight, and I doubt that since at Martin's age, they don't yet really know how to fight.
Zimmerman had over 100 pounds on skinny Martin.

Martin was a big boy, you assume him small because they used a baby photo of him. You have no idea the paths either took.

 

[SavannahMann]

The Derek Chauvin trial is revealing a dangerous drop in intelligence in the United States presided over by media, academia, and politics. Americans old enough to remember the verdict in the 1995 OJ Simpson double murder trial witnessed no mass rioting by whites even though Simpson was clearly guilty. Simpson, a black celebrity, killed his estranged wife’s lover by slashing his throat and nearly decapitated her with a knife that was never found.

Simpson then got an airplane with a severely cut hand and fled the scene. What followed was an almost cartoon-like caricature of the US legal system where the venue was changed to make use of a racially tainted population that virtually guaranteed a not guilty finding. The prosecution was comically incompetent relying on the new science of DNA, overwhelming an IQ-challenged jury that could barley comprehend ABC. In defense of the jury, they also knew that if they did not ignore the obvious evidence and free Simpson they would likely have been murdered by an angry mob. Once again, after the verdict, no rioting by whites.

In the ensuing 26 years American higher education, in particular liberal arts, has shifted from educating to indoctrinating and with emergence social media sites like Facebook and Twitter, white intelligence has plummeted to levels so low that life expectancy has dropped in the United States. The resounding theme in American education and its arm banded propaganda media today is that white Americans are bad and must be ethnically cleansed by marginalized minorities via Critical Race Theory with help of “good” whites in order to save democracy.

George Floyd was the victim of the Great Society, the War on Poverty, and Affirmative Action, not Derek Chauvin. The destruction of the nuclear family by white intellectuals put Floyd on the pavement that day so loaded with drugs that his heart gave out. So, in essence, Floyd did die at the hands of White Supremacy imposed on him by white elites that have ruined America by inciting groups to overthrow the country and rebuild it in the image of socialist academic and political aristocracy.

Our system is in dire straits. A ballot stuffed election is the least of our problems. The intelligence of many Americans is so low that they could easily be persuaded to give up all their freedoms and liberties. Meanwhile cities will burn if we do not comply with the plan. Stay tuned.

I honestly don’t know where to start. I don’t remember seeing this thread before, so my first reply months later is without benefit of watching it get here.

First, let’s start with OJ. I’ve covered this favorite of the RW to the point where everyone is sick of it. The truth is that OJ was found not guilty because the Defense did a fantastic job. They challenged every single piece of evidence, and got the best possible ruling on the Jury. Let’s start at the Jury.

The Jury selection included a decision by the Judge to disallow anyone who read the newspaper, or watched the news. The Defense claim was that this would limit anyone who might be biased based upon the wall to wall news coverage. The Judge agreed and the Prosecution did not challenge it in an appeal. They should have. Because what you ended up with is people who were so uninterested in anything that they didn’t watch even a few minutes of news ever. This demonstrated a short attention span, a fact that the Prosecution ignored.

Now, to the defense. Everything the Prosecution pointed to as proof was challenged. Everything. Not one piece of evidence got by. As the trial went on, the Prosecution tried to get even more detail oriented with the DNA evidence.

DNA was practically Science Fiction in those days. You have to view things in the context of the era and society that they happened in. At that time in our history, DNA was practically magic. People didn’t understand it, and the scientifically specific description was guaranteed to confuse people, and what it did to people who were so apathetic that they didn’t read or watch news? They were in an open eyed coma in fifteen minutes. A day later the Prosecution is still droning on about DNA.

Then we get to the Defense. The Defense realizing that the Jury had a short attention span, was again, brilliant. They asked the Prosecution Expert what the odds were that two people would have identical DNA. The DNA Scientist said one in ten million. The Defense then pointed out that in the Los Angeles Basin that meant that at least five people had the same DNA as OJ. The DNA expert agreed that was likely given statistics.

So the Science Fiction was now totally discredited in the minds of the Jury.

We get to the Cops. The fantastic Detective that we heard so much about. His expertise, his professionalism. He got caught in a lie ten minutes into the Defense Cross Examination. Now, he’s tainted, a couple decades later he would be put on the Brady List, of cops who were caught lying on the stand and the Prosecution wouldn’t put them up for anything.

Nothing was left to go by. Even simple evidence was challenged, and in each case, the Prosecution Experts had to admit that it was possible in some almost insane theory that the evidence could mean something else, no matter how unlikely.

To say OJ got off because of Race is to ignore the details. I watched the trial, and I remember laughing a lot as the Defense challenged and discredited everything. Some things didn’t need discrediting. Kato for example, came off looking and sounding like a stoned surfer. Hardly a great witness. You wouldn’t trust him if you asked him what time it was on the street.

So we have a cop who was caught in a lie, after he was used to introduce all the evidence, that he himself participated in the collection of. We have expert witnesses that could be used to cure insomniacs who didn’t respond to heavy medication. We have a Prosecutor who couldn’t get in front of the Defense without tripping over her own feet. Then we have the Defense who was as brief as possible, and far more energetic and enthusiastic than the quiet professionals of the Prosecution.

Now, to the conclusion of the OJ part of this reply. Do I think he did it? Yes. Would I have found him guilty? Probably not. The Prosecution has to prove it. And their efforts were, poorly done.

On to Chauvin.

What can I say that hasn’t been said. No Coroner testified that Chauvin had nothing to do with the death. All of them said that Chauvin’s action contributed to the death, directly contributed. So if you do something and someone dies as a result, doesn’t that make you responsible?

That brings up the next part. The actions that Chauvin claimed were reasonable and part of him doing his job. That leg was cut out by his own supervisors. They pointed to the policy letters, and showed it was not permitted. They pointed to the training, and showed it had not been permitted for a long time.

Finally we get to the CT nonsense. Where Chauvin was sacrificed to BLM and the rest. The truth is that Chauvin was sacrificed. But not by BLM, and not to them. He was sacrificed by the cops themselves to middle class America. The same way that cops are always sacrificed.

Chauvin had what? I think was 19 complaints, many sustained as accurate, over his career. Yet, he didn’t stop doing the things he was getting complaints about.

Let’s pretend you own a company. I am one of your employees. I drive a delivery truck for you. I run into a car while watching a video on my phone. You write me up and suspend me for a week. A year later I do the same thing, and a year after that another incident where I do the same thing. How many times will you let me do it before you fire me? I’m betting the first time, I’m gone.

Finally I kill someone in an accident. The company records are disclosed during the lawsuit, and it is shown that I had a habit of driving distracted. How much money is it going to cost you to pay for the decision not to fire me before the fatal? I’m betting pretty much all of it.

Chauvin was the same thing. They slapped his wrist while patting him on the back. They did not actively make an effort to stop the bad behavior. It was just understood that was what good cops do. They are rough, and tough, and they use what the book would call excessive force because the policies do not reflect reality. Then Floyd died.

The Department did what they always do, what all the departments do. They rushed out and told the press, and the world, that they were shocked and heartbroken over this. The officers actions do not reflect the behavior and actions of the rest of the fine officers. They are embarrassed. Humiliated even, by the actions of this one bad officer.

They lied. They threw Chauvin to the wolves, as they always do.

Chauvin was responsible for the death of Floyd. The facts show that. And I don’t mean your nonsense CT facts from some website. I’m talking about the evidence of the trial.

OJ was found Not Guilty because the Prosecution wasn’t up to the task. Chauvin was found guilty because the Prosecution was up to the task.

 

[Rigby5]

Martin was a big boy, you assume him small because they used a baby photo of him. You have no idea the paths either took.

No, we know exactly the paths both took, since most of the time they were walking/running on wet grass.
Martin was tall, 5'11", but only 17 and 125 lbs. No one knows how to fight at that age, and he was skinny as a rail.

We know where Martin was due to the cellphone call he made while Zimmerman ran in front of him.
We know the route Zimmerman took because there are only 2 possible routes, and we do not see Zimmerman's tracks anywhere else.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The world is a better place without Floyd. Dozens, maybe hundreds of lives will now not be put at risk by his criminal career.

Good riddance

 

[jc456]

No, we know exactly the paths both took, since most of the time they were walking/running on wet grass.
Martin was tall, 5'11", but only 17 and 125 lbs. No one knows how to fight at that age, and he was skinny as a rail.

We know where Martin was due to the cellphone call he made while Zimmerman ran in front of him.
We know the route Zimmerman took because there are only 2 possible routes, and we do not see Zimmerman's tracks anywhere else.

why does it say assumed path? hmmmmmmmmm

 

[Rigby5]

The world is a better place without Floyd. Dozens, maybe hundreds of lives will now not be put at risk by his criminal career.

Good riddance

That is ridiculous.
Floyd committed one criminal act, over 40 years ago.
Nothing after that.

 

[Rigby5]

why does it say assumed path? hmmmmmmmmm

Well without any witnesses, it can't be proven what their paths may have been.
But these are also the paths Zimmerman testified to, and what Martin's cellphone indicated.

 

[jc456]

Well without any witnesses, it can't be proven what their paths may have been.
But these are also the paths Zimmerman testified to, and what Martin's cellphone indicated.

so you have no point. You're trying to justify something with bullshit. wow. Admitting it as well. amazing.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

That is ridiculous.
Floyd committed one criminal act, over 40 years ago.
Nothing after that.

He was passing counterfeit money the day he died and had been in possession of deadly narcotics as seen from his own death

 

[Rigby5]

so you have no point. You're trying to justify something with bullshit. wow. Admitting it as well. amazing.

Those conclusions of yours are without justification.
Those are the paths both prosecution and defense agreed upon.
No one disagreed.
The fact it was dark and raining made if very unlikely there would be any one else to testify about paths.
Martin's path was supported by the cellphone location and his path in the wet grass.

The POINT is that these paths establish that Martin was definitely NOT the aggressor.
He did not go after Zimmerman, but Zimmerman did cut off Martin.
Are you actually trying now to contest what everyone accepts as fact?

 

[jc456]

Those conclusions of yours are without justification.
Those are the paths both prosecution and defense agreed upon.
No one disagreed.
The fact it was dark and raining made if very unlikely there would be any one else to testify about paths.
Martin's path was supported by the cellphone location and his path in the wet grass.

The POINT is that these paths establish that Martin was definitely NOT the aggressor.
He did not go after Zimmerman, but Zimmerman did cut off Martin.
Are you actually trying now to contest what everyone accepts as fact?

Assume is not the path of facts

 

[Rigby5]

He was passing counterfeit money the day he died and had been in possession of deadly narcotics as seen from his own death

Wrong.
There was no testimony as to Floyd knowing any bills were counterfeit, and in fact I doubt they were.
Nor is fentanyl normally deadly.
And Floyd did not die from any narcotics.

 

[Rigby5]

Assume is not the path of facts

That is silly.
Of course without witnesses, one could walk backwards and leave a false path.
But there is no reason to doubt these assumed paths, since everyone says they were accurate.
That includes Zimmerman and the police investigators.
That we do not have more facts since we have no other witnesses, does not indicate the paths are questionable.
What alternate paths do you believe?