What "State Secrets" Did Joe Biden Sell ?

[protectionist]

Nope. I showed the chart as 538 described it...

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FiveThirtyEight told Reuters that it is not true that Biden received all the votes in the overnight dump: “these batches were NOT 100% Biden votes; behind the blue line, there is also a red line representing the thousands of votes Trump gained."​

NO you did NOT. You CREATED a red vertical line that was nit in the 538 chart, and you're lying to try to cover uop your first lie. You're never gonna get way with it Faun, half the forum know s what you did. I've even heard leftists condemn you for it. You are a sick dude.

Again (and I will show them again & again every time you try to lie about it >>

the original, signed chart from fivethirtyeight not showing any vertical red line>>

And here is your unsigned, fake ALTERED chart, showing a red vertical line that wasn't in the original chart >>

 

[protectionist]

The Moron in Chief POS most probably sold everything .....plus the kitchen sink!

...and will continue selling if the paying is good.

Sad times my friends!

And made even sadder by morons like Faun, who try to whitewash the Biden corruption, and trash talk Viktor Shokin.

 

[protectionist]

Nope. Paying Hunter $80K was not a crime.

And if Shokin was investigating Zlochevsky, why did he help Zlochevsky evade prosecution in Great Britain?

I don't know if it was a crime under Ukrainian law, but selling political influence is a crime in many countries >> Argentina, Belgium, Bulgaria, Brazil, France, Hungary, Italy, Portugal, Romania,[2] Spain, and the United Kingdom. and it ought to be a crime in the USA too.

Influence peddling is typically associated with corruption, and therefore delegitimises democratic politics with the general public. Another example of Joe Biden turning our country into a banana republic, just for his own selfish, personal gain.

But let's give it a bit more time, and see how the Oversight Committee investigations eventually rule on this.

 

[Smokin' OP]

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Trump Defends Putin as Biden Visits War-Torn Ukraine​

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Feb 20, 2023 — The former president said his personal relationship with the Russian autocrat would have prevented the invasion.

 

[Smokin' OP]

I don't know if it was a crime under Ukrainian law, but selling political influence is a crime in many countries >> Argentina, Belgium, Bulgaria, Brazil, France, Hungary, Italy, Portugal, Romania,[2] Spain, and the United Kingdom. and it ought to be a crime in the USA too.

Influence peddling is typically associated with corruption, and therefore delegitimises democratic politics with the general public. Another example of Joe Biden turning our country into a banana republic, just for his own selfish, personal gain.

But let's give it a bit more time, and see how the Oversight Committee investigations eventually rule on this.

The 3 Favors Trump Asked the Ukrainian President in New ...​

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Sep 25, 2019 — “I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it,” Trump told Zelensky.

 

[Faun]

The issue is Shokin, Burisma, and the Bidens, not Zlo whatever his name is.
I don't give a rat's ass what else he did.

LOLOLOLOL

That you don't know who Zlochevsky is, or what his role in that was, utterly exposes your abject ignorance on the matter.

You're done, gramps.

 

[Faun]

The Moron in Chief POS most probably sold everything .....plus the kitchen sink!

...and will continue selling if the paying is good.

Sad times my friends!

 

[Faun]

NO you did NOT. You CREATED a red vertical line that was nit in the 538 chart, and you're lying to try to cover uop your first lie. You're never gonna get way with it Faun, half the forum know s what you did. I've even heard leftists condemn you for it. You are a sick dude.

Again (and I will show them again & again every time you try to lie about it >>

the original, signed chart from fivethirtyeight not showing any vertical red line>>

And here is your unsigned, fake ALTERED chart, showing a red vertical line that wasn't in the original chart >>

Nope. I showed the red line 538 described is there which you idiotically denied...

Fact check: Biden vote spikes and county recount do not prove Democrats are trying to steal the election in Michigan and Wisconsin

Social media users are sharing an article which cites examples of two large spikes in Biden votes, a county recount and late mail-in voting to prove that Democrats are trying to steal the election in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Although the details surrounding...

www.reuters.com

FiveThirtyEight told Reuters that it is not true that Biden received all the votes in the overnight dump: “these batches were NOT 100% Biden votes; behind the blue line, there is also a red line representing the thousands of votes Trump gained."​

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Joe Biden has openly admitted to the corruption, if not treason, of selling state secrets, We all know that. But WHAT those "state secrets" are (or we should now say WERE), is my question.

Were they >>>
1. Military ?
2. Economic ?
3. Political ?
4. Scientific ?
5. You name it >>

Just ask hunter what he took to china

 

[Faun]

I don't know if it was a crime under Ukrainian law, but selling political influence is a crime in many countries >> Argentina, Belgium, Bulgaria, Brazil, France, Hungary, Italy, Portugal, Romania,[2] Spain, and the United Kingdom. and it ought to be a crime in the USA too.

Influence peddling is typically associated with corruption, and therefore delegitimises democratic politics with the general public. Another example of Joe Biden turning our country into a banana republic, just for his own selfish, personal gain.

But let's give it a bit more time, and see how the Oversight Committee investigations eventually rule on this.

Prove Biden sold influence...

 

[Smokin' OP]

Prove Biden sold influence...

They can't.
They think hearsay is "evidence' and the people providing this hearsay won't testify.

 

[Skylar]

Joe Biden has openly admitted to the corruption, if not treason, of selling state secrets, We all know that. But WHAT those "state secrets" are (or we should now say WERE), is my question.

Were they >>>
1. Military ?
2. Economic ?
3. Political ?
4. Scientific ?
5. You name it >>

No he hasn't. What we 'all know' is that you're prone to making up random shit in conspiracy addled spasms.

So much for your 'sold state secrets'.

 

[protectionist]

Feb 20, 2023 — The former president said his personal relationship with the Russian autocrat would have prevented the invasion.

Absolutely right. And lives would have been saved. Another tragedy of Biden being president.

 

[protectionist]

LOLOLOLOL

That you don't know who Zlochevsky is, or what his role in that was, utterly exposes your abject ignorance on the matter.

You're done, gramps.

I don't NEED to know about him. Again, "the matter" is Burisma, the Bidens, and Shokin. Get it ?

 

[protectionist]

No he hasn't. What we 'all know' is that you're prone to making up random shit in conspiracy addled spasms.

So much for your 'sold state secrets'.

Yes he did. And he did it (as Biden with the biggest mouth of any US POTUS ever) on VIDEO, as usual.

So even when you see videos of Biden saying things, you pretend he didn't say them. What we "all know" is that you are prone to turn a blind eye to obvious evidence, and then expect people to agree with you. Have you ever considered seeing a psychiatrist ?

So the question remains >>What state secrets did Joe Biden sell ?

This link has 17 videos of Joe Biden lying to the American people but leftists like Dopin' OP won't click the link, won't watch the videos, or see the graphics, and then will act like they know more than the rest of us.

Joe Biden Lied At Least 16 Times About His Family’s Business Schemes - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

 

[protectionist]

Prove Biden sold influence...

Last month, an FBI informant file revealed that Mykola Zlochevsky, the owner of natural gas company Burisma Holdings, was "coerced" into paying $5 million apiece in bribes to Biden and his son, in exchange for Viktor Shokin's ouster.

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In 2014, Hunter Biden introduced his father, then Vice President Joe Biden, to Kazakhstan oligarch Kenes Rakishev at a dinner. Records and testimony obtained by James Comer, chairman of the House Oversight Committee show that at that time of introducing Rakishev to Vice President Biden, Hunter Biden and his business partner Devon Archer were working on a deal involving Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company on whose board they both served, and a Chinese company that would have been based in Kazakhstan. To facilitate the deal and his relationship with Archer and the Bidens, Rakishev wired $142,300 to Rosemont Seneca—a shell company created by Devon and Hunter (the exact amount needed to fund Hunter's sports car purchase the next day).

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$3.5 million was wired into Rosemont Seneca in February 2014 by the powerful Russian oligarch Yelena Baturina, right around the time Joe Biden had first met her over dinner.

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Joe Biden’s questionable activities go back to his first year as Vice President in 2009 and continued throughout his eight years.

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Chinese elite have paid some $31 million to Hunter and the Bidens

The Biden family has done five deals in China totaling some $31 million arranged by individuals with direct ties to Chinese intelligence — some reaching the very top of China’s spy agency.

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e-mails and text messages found on Hunter Biden’s old laptop hard drive — first published by The Post — show “the big guy” being referenced repeatedly.

Hunter Biden and China: A timeline of his business ties to the Far East​

Latest Biden coverup — 5,400 emails he sent under secret names

National Archives has 5,400 Biden emails in which he uses fake names to dish gov’t info to Hunter, others as VP: suit

Jean-Pierre won’t talk Biden ‘brand’ or art sales — but says agencies should ‘work with’ GOP on records requests
For at least seven years, many when his father was vice president, Hunter Biden pursued a lucrative deal to run an investment firm founded by millions of dollars from a Chinese partnership.
Joe Biden claims he never spoke with Hunter about his dealings, and never profited from any group his family set up, but e-mails and text messages found on Hunter Biden’s old laptop hard drive — first published by The Post — show “the big guy” being referenced repeatedly. A federal investigation into Hunter is ongoing, and Republicans vow to continue to probe how Hunter profited off his father’s name, and what President-elect Biden knew about it.
“I’m not going to turn a blind eye on this,” Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.) said last week. “We’ll keep digging.”
Based on information from the laptop and interviews, here’s what we know about the Chinese deal:

June 2009​

As the Obama-Biden administration hit the halfway point of its inaugural year, Hunter Biden co-founded Rosemont Seneca Partners, an investment fund, along with Christopher Heinz — the stepson of Obama’s future Secretary of State John Kerry — and Devon Archer, a former

April 7-9, 2010

Hunter Biden visited China as a Rosemont Seneca rep during the second year of his father’s vice presidency. There he gained audiences with top officials of influential state-linked enterprises including the Postal Savings Bank, China Investment Corp., and Founder Group. He was joined on the trip by James Bulger, the politically connected co-founder of the Thornton Group, an Asia-oriented financial services firm.

2012​

As Joe Biden ran for his second term as vice president, Hunter Biden and Devon Archer made contact with Chinese financier Jonathan Li, who ran the private-equity fund Bohai Capital. The trio discussed a plan to become partners in a new operation that would invest Chinese cash in ventures outside the country. Eighty percent of the resulting company, Bohai Harvest, was controlled by Chinese state-owned interests.

December 2013​

When Chinese president Xi Jinping alarmed the rest of Asia with an aggressive expansion of his military claims over the East China Sea, Vice President Biden was dispatched to Beijing to try to de-escalate tensions. The second son tagged along on Air Force Two. While a somber and subdued Joe Biden held a marathon five-hour meeting with Xi, Hunter got together with Jonathan Li in what handlers at the time described as a social visit. The son even arranged for a handshake between Li and his father at the hotel of the American delegation — troubling some of the vice president’s advisors, according to the New Yorker. Ten days later, the Chinese business license for Bohai Harvest — the company that Hunter Biden and Devon Archer had been trying to launch for more than a year — was approved.

2015

Around this time Hunter Biden’s relationship to Chinese tycoon Ye Jianming “began to ramp up,” according to a Senate report released in September. Ye, the founder of Chinese energy giant CEFC, served as the nation’s unofficial energy liaison to Russia.

Feb. 23 and March 1, 2017​

A month after Biden left office, a total of $6 million in wire transfers were made from State Energy HK Ltd., a company controlled by Ye, to Robinson Walker LLC. That company was controlled by Rob Walker, a longtime business partner of Hunter’s who had collaborated with him in at least three other companies. Walker served in both Bill Clinton’s and George W. Bush’s administrations — and his wife, Betsy Massey Walker, is reportedly a former member of future First Lady’s Jill Biden’s personal staff. The Senate’s joint Finance Committee and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee report said it was “unclear what the true purpose is behind these transactions and who the ultimate beneficiary is.”

May 2-3, 2017​

Venture capitalist Tony Bobulinski was recruited by the Bidens around this time to serve as CEO of Sinohawk Holdings, which he describes as a partnership between Ye’s CEFC and the Biden family. Bobulinski met twice with Joe Biden at the Beverly Hilton Hotel in Beverly Hills, where the former veep was set to give a speech. Hunter, Bobulinski told The Post, “brings Joe over and introduces me, saying [Joe’s] the one who’s helping us with the business we’re doing with the Chinese.” Biden responded, “I trust you. Good luck and work hard” — and added a second instruction the next morning: “Keep an eye on my son and [brother Jim Biden] and look out for my family.”

Joe Biden has repeatedly denied any knowledge of his son’s business operation. In September 2020 he told reporters emphatically, “I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.”

May 11, 2017

James Gilliar, another Hunter Biden business associate, talked with Bobulinski about how to “get Joe involved” in a joint venture with CEFC. The two discussed ways to make the effort look like a “truly family business” in a series of text messages seen by The Post. “Let’s get the company set up, then tell H and family the high stakes and get Joe involved,” Gilliar wrote. The texts were contained in a tranche of emails and documents released by Bobulinski.

May 13, 2017​

Gilliar emailed Hunter Biden to outline remuneration packages for Hunter and five other people in an unspecified business venture. The email — found on the Hunter Biden laptop and exposed in a bombshell report by The Post — suggested equity shares were being assigned to Biden family members, with a note indicating that 10% would be held by Hunter “for the big guy” — who Bobulinski later definitively identified as Joe Biden. Three days later, Bobulinski says, the plans changed: Joe Biden’s 10% share would be held in the name of his brother Jim instead.


Bobulinski voiced his doubts about the wisdom of Joe Biden’s involvement to Jim Biden, in light of his brother’s political stature.


“I remember saying, ‘How are you guys getting away with this? Aren’t you concerned?’” Bobulinski said in an interview with The Post’s Michael Goodwin.

“‘Plausible deniability,'” Jim Biden responded with a chuckle, Bobulinski recalled.

May 20, 2017​

“Don’t mention Joe being involved, it’s only when u are face to face, I know u know that but they are paranoid,” Gilliar instructed Bobulinksi in an encrypted WhatsApp message thread. In response, Bobulinksi wrote, “OK they should be paranoid about things.” Later, Bobulinski added what seemed to be a warning about Joe Biden’s future political plans: “You need to stress to H, does he want to be the reason or factor that blows up his dad’s campaign.” The former veep was still two years away from announcing his third White House bid.

June 18, 2017

Hunter Biden made an urgent request to Ye Jianming to wire him $10 million as seed money for a new venture, SinoHawk Holdings, according to an email obtained by The Post. In the missive he said he was extending “best wishes from the entire Biden family” and that “We are all hoping to see you here again soon, or in Shanghai.”

Summer 2017

Hunter met with Ye in Miami to solicit donations for World Food Program USA, according to the Senate report. Over dinner, they discussed details of helping the Chinese magnate find investments for CEFC in the United States. Afterward, Ye sent him a 2.8-carat diamond as a thank-you gift. “I just felt like it was weird,” Hunter later told The New Yorker — but he accepted the gem. The rock later become a bone of contention in divorce proceedings between Hunter Biden and first wife Kathleen Buhle.

Aug 1, 2017​

A hand-drawn flow chart included in the Senate report shows an ownership breakdown of an entity called “Hudson West” with a 50/50 split between Biden and someone identified only as “chairman.” An email sent the next day strongly suggests the “chairman” in question was Ye Jianming — and notes that while Hunter was to have earned $10 million a year “for introductions alone,” those earlier terms had been changed “TO A MUCH MORE LASTING AND LUCRATIVE ARRANGEMENT.”

Aug. 8, 2017​

Ye’s CEFC wired $5 million to Hudson West. That same day, the company began a year-long series of payments to Owasco, Hunter Biden’s law firm, that would total $4.79 million, the Senate report found. Owasco subsequently sent $1.4 million — parceled out in 20 different wire transfers — to the Lion Hall Group, a consulting firm controlled by James Biden and his wife, Sara Biden.

Sept. 21, 2017​

Hunter Biden emailed the Washington office building House of Sweden to request a set of keys for Rosemont Seneca offices be produced for Joe Biden, Jill Biden, Jim Biden and Gongwen Dong — all of whom were described as “office mates,” according to another email. Hunter Biden also noted that Gongwen Dong was an “emissary” for CEFC and Ye.

September 2017

Chi Ping Patrick Ho, a Ye lieutenant, agreed to pay Hunter Biden a $1 million retainer for “Counsel to matters related to US law and advice pertaining to the hiring and legal analysis of any US Law Firm or Lawyer,” according to an attorney engagement letter obtained by The Post.

December 2018​

A Manhattan federal jury convicted Ho for violating the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act by trying to bribe government officials in Africa. He was sentenced to three years in prison.

2018​

The Department of Justice opens a probe into Hunter Biden’s tax affairs, business ties in China and the Ukraine and documents covering his involvement in more than two dozen entities, according to a Dec. 13, 2020 report by the Associated Press. At least one 2017 email notes Hunter Biden failed to disclose $400,000 in income he earned while on the board of the Ukrainian Energy company Burisma.

2018​

Ye Jianming vanishes in China amid suspicions of “economic crimes.”

April 12, 2019​

Hunter Biden left a waterlogged laptop at a Delaware computer repair store owned by John Paul Mac Isaac seeking repairs. The computer bore a sticker for the Beau Biden Foundation, named for his deceased brother. Hunter Biden never returned for the machine, however, and Mac Isaac said after repeated attempts to contact Hunter failed, he legally took possession of it under terms of the repair contract.

April 25, 2019​

Joe Biden announced he’s running for president.

Dec. 9, 2019​

The FBI issued a subpoena for the Hunter Biden laptop after they are informed of its existence by Mac Isaac, who was “concerned” about what he saw on its hard drive. “I just don’t know … what I’m allowed to say,” Isaac explained months later. “I know that I saw, I saw stuff. And I was concerned. I was concerned that somebody might want to come looking for this stuff eventually and I wanted it out of my shop.” Along with business emails, the device contained numerous explicit self-taken photos and videos of Hunter Biden having sex and doing what appeared to be drugs.

 

[Skylar]

Yes he did. And he did it (as Biden with the biggest mouth of any US POTUS ever) on VIDEO, as usual.

Nope.

You're quoting yourself. Not Biden.

Just like you're quoting yourself on your 'state secret' nonsense. You're literally making up your entire argument up as you go along. And then laughably trying to apply it to Biden.

As zero indictments for Biden and 91 charges against Trump demonstrate elegantly......your imagination doesn't amount to much.

 

[protectionist]

Nope.

You're quoting yourself. Not Biden.

Just like you're quoting yourself on your 'state secret' nonsense. You're literally making up your entire argument up as you go along. And then laughably trying to apply it to Biden.

As zero indictments for Biden and 91 charges against Trump demonstrate elegantly......your imagination doesn't amount to much.

I don't HAVE TO quote Biden, he's on video saying he sold state secrets.

He's also on video saying he had the the most extensive & inclusive voter fraud organization in US history.

He also on video bragging that it the prosecutor wasn't fired, that Ukraine would not get the $1 Billion loan. (extortion)

He's also on video unrequestedly grabbing, groping, kissing, hugging, sniffing, and touching women & children.

Zero indictments for Biden! What is this a JOKE ? What's the matter ? You flunked government 101 ? Where do you think indictments come from ? They come from BIDEN'S DOJ. So he's hes going to indict himself huh ? Because this guy who does nothing with his political power but enrich himself, and attack his 2024 presidntial opponent, has so much integrity that now he'll indict hmself. Yeahhh!

This discussion has gone beyond the brink. If you are so daft as to actually believe what you've been saying, get help.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Absolutely right. And lives would have been saved. Another tragedy of Biden being president.

And Russian territory/influence would be expanded.
Trump helped and teabaggers cheered.

 

[Faun]

I don't NEED to know about him. Again, "the matter" is Burisma, the Bidens, and Shokin. Get it ?

Who with Burisma was accused of committing crimes?