What made United States great ?

[Marion Morrison]

I disagree. FDR and WW II didn't not make America great.

Under Hoover we went into the great depression.

After FDR we were the source of the greatest generation.

Who would be sadly disappointed they fought and died for people like you to push their leftist agenda on future generations. They'd probably hang or shoot you.

 

[Kosh]

Many people (including me) will think entrepreneurs made the U.S a developed country and that was caused by capitalism. Also systems such as: free market, freedom of opinion, competition.. etc. provided us those technologies and science. In the history, those people from aristocratic background have been always made the useful things for the humanity.

I don't know am I right ? What do you think ?

We also have an article about that topic, you can read it here:
What made America great? – Think and Say

What made it great was WWII and how the US bound together to build this nation.

Now the far left is doing all they can to dismantle everything that help build this country, even though it was the god FDR that helped build it.

I disagree. FDR and WW II didn't not make America great.

Of course it did. It created term limits for Presidents.

The country was united in WWII, everything was dedicated for the war effort. The country prospered, especially after the war.

The nation was prosperous and before the war (after WWI) we were self sufficient.

The Constitution still has not protected the US from the political class vs the working class. As most do not understand the spirit of what it is.

 

[radical right]

The authors of the Constitution were brilliant.
It has prevented America from becoming a dictatorship.
It's why the dumb Left Wingers hate it so much.
Obama's abuse of power was a huge blow against our democracy.
Trump is trying to drain the swamp and the dirty swamp critters are apoplectic.

Are you a russian troll?

Trump has put more swamp critters in government than anybody else. From lobbyists, to those in league with lobbyists.

 

[Kosh]

It’s nice to hear you taking such great pride in slavery and what slavery accomplished.

I take no pride in it. Just like we were made great by taking the country away from the rightful owners, and used it for our own gain.

The Kennedys became great by bootlegging. So im' proud of America being great, but not of how it got there.

Nobody “owned” land. There were no deeds issued. Being born on X piece of soil never granted one ownership of said soil. Bigger stronger Armies “owned” whatever they wanted...that’s how it worked back then. You know this.

In the old west days, insurance companies where the owner of such lands, yes you went to insurance companies to "mortgage" your land. They owned your land until you paid it off.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The authors of the Constitution were brilliant.
It has prevented America from becoming a dictatorship.
It's why the dumb Left Wingers hate it so much.
Obama's abuse of power was a huge blow against our democracy.
Trump is trying to drain the swamp and the dirty swamp critters are apoplectic.

dirty swamp critters:
Obama, Hillary, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Rice, McCabe, Lynch, Holder
Dossiergate is the biggest political scandal in 100 years but the Fake Press is ignoring the story

 

[Kosh]

The authors of the Constitution were brilliant.
It has prevented America from becoming a dictatorship.
It's why the dumb Left Wingers hate it so much.
Obama's abuse of power was a huge blow against our democracy.
Trump is trying to drain the swamp and the dirty swamp critters are apoplectic.

Are you a russian troll?

Trump has put more swamp critters in government than anybody else. From lobbyists, to those in league with lobbyists.

The far left debunked religious narratives being run.

It seems the far left will ignore the 8 years of Obama.

Obama's lobbyist rule: Promise Broken

 

[BrokeLoser]

It’s nice to hear you taking such great pride in slavery and what slavery accomplished.

I take no pride in it. Just like we were made great by taking the country away from the rightful owners, and used it for our own gain.

The Kennedys became great by bootlegging. So im' proud of America being great, but not of how it got there.

Nobody “owned” land. There were no deeds issued. Being born on X piece of soil never granted one ownership of said soil. Bigger stronger Armies “owned” whatever they wanted...that’s how it worked back then. You know this.

In the old west days, insurance companies where the owner of such lands, yes you went to insurance companies to "mortgage" your land. They owned your land until you paid it off.

True...but I think we were referencing an era two centuries prior to the “Wild West”.

 

[radical right]

Nobody “owned” land. There were no deeds issued. Being born on X piece of soil never granted one ownership of said soil. Bigger stronger Armies “owned” whatever they wanted...that’s how it worked back then. You know this.

It still works that way, that doesn't make it right. In fact, if you believe in GOD that idea is abhorrent to his teachings.

 

[froggy]

Faith of the Founding Fathers

 

[beagle9]

Stealing land, taking advantage of war to sell weapons, and attracting talent from other countries. Certainly hasn't been our cultivation of talent at home, that's for sure.

Stealing land from who in character back then, and what about having to deal with wars in order to protect our claim in culture and in character that makes up the entire nation ?? Its easy to make obscene statements as you and the left love to do, but your biggest enemy is the history books, and the ability for AMERICANS to read and understand it all for themselves.

What the left hates more than anything, is the fact that people whether in groups as inhabitants of a land or citizens of a nation, can be wrong in it's ideologies or culturalistic ways, and can be seen in their folly by those who know crazy when they see it. Remember when tribes would sacrifice in order to please the god's ?? If we as a civilized people were to encounter such a cult in the world in which we want to live, do you think that we could make peace with such a cult or would we have to make war with them, defeat them, and then include them back into the citizenship once a reprogramming of their warped minds takes place ?? Do you think we could have asked nicely for the Nazi's to just be a nicer people or to just ask Japan to abandon the brainwashing of their emperor ?? If you don't like what has gone on in America, and the progress that we have made over time in America, then don't let the door hit you in the ace on the way out.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Let me make some people piss their pants with some bold truth.
“What made America great?”
No presence of “Brown” people

Actually the presence of brown people is what made america great. Without slavery, the south wouldn't have become a world agricultural market leader, making America an exporter to the world, which propelled america into economic greatness.

Negative
Smart people make shit happen using whatever resources they have access to....had they not had access to black slaves they still would have built the AG industry the same.
Bill Gates would have built Microsoft with the people he used or with other people he would have used. TA-DA!

. A fair statement, and also true, but with the AG industry back in those days it would have taken so much longer to happen. American, Immigrant, and slave labor provided very significant contributions to this nations strength, wealth and success to this very day. It's undeniable.

Let me make some people piss their pants with some bold truth.
“What made America great?”
No presence of “Brown” people

Actually the presence of brown people is what made america great. Without slavery, the south wouldn't have become a world agricultural market leader, making America an exporter to the world, which propelled america into economic greatness.

Negative
Smart people make shit happen using whatever resources they have access to....had they not had access to black slaves they still would have built the AG industry the same.
Bill Gates would have built Microsoft with the people he used or with other people he would have used. TA-DA!

. A fair statement, and also true, but with the AG industry back in those days it would have taken so much longer to happen. American, Immigrant, and slave labor provided very significant contributions to this nations strength, wealth and success to this very day. It's undeniable.

I don’t deny that.
I’ll debate the timeline and the growth trajectory though.
The leaders knew what they wanted to accomplish with America...they appointed slaves to assist in the development...it would have been others if it wasn’t slaves.
Again, Bill Gates appointed “Bob” to sweep the floors...if it wasn’t “Bob” it would have been “Larry” and Microsoft would have developed on the same timeline.
Leaders dictate the pace of development and execution.

 

[playtime]

Its Constitution.

Putting God first, and including him in spirit into the Constitution. We couldn't have written a Constitution such as we have without him being added into the mix.

The reason we are claiming that we need to MAGA now, is because over the years there has been a negative force that has been attempting to remove God from everywhere in this nation.

It has been a relentless game of attrition that has been conducted by this negative force against us, yet it has been pushed back, and it is losing ground lately.

Hopefully the trend continues in the right direction which is to keep God in our midst always, and to continue to pray that he accepts our invitation to dwell amongst us always.

Article VI
All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

Article VI

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists
The Final Letter, as Sent
To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen


The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.


Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.


I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.


Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists (June 1998) - Library of Congress Information Bulletin

 

[John Shaw]

Stealing land, taking advantage of war to sell weapons, and attracting talent from other countries. Certainly hasn't been our cultivation of talent at home, that's for sure.

Stealing land from who in character back then, and what about having to deal with wars in order to protect our claim in culture and in character that makes up the entire nation ?? Its easy to make obscene statements as you and the left love to do, but your biggest enemy is the history books, and the ability for AMERICANS to read and understand it all for themselves.

What the left hates more than anything, is the fact that people whether in groups as inhabitants of a land or citizens of a nation, can be wrong in it's ideologies or culturalistic ways, and can be seen in their folly by those who know crazy when they see it. Remember when tribes would sacrifice in order to please the god's ?? If we as a civilized people were to encounter such a cult in the world in which we want to live, do you think that we could make peace with such a cult or would we have to make war with them, defeat them, and then include them back into the citizenship once a reprogramming of their warped minds takes place ?? Do you think we could have asked nicely for the Nazi's to just be a nicer people or to just ask Japan to abandon the brainwashing of their emperor ?? If you don't like what has gone on in America, and the progress that we have made over time in America, then don't let the door hit you in the ace on the way out.

What does any of this shit have to do with my post?

 

[beagle9]

Smart people make shit happen using whatever resources they have access to....had they not had access to black slaves they still would have built the AG industry the same.

The problem is that America wasn't built on smart people, most early communities failed, and if not for the indians the pilgrims would have starved. Those intellectuals were imported as the country encouraged the best and brightest to come to america.

I see what you’re wanting to do here...I’ll play along.
So by your account, the south wouldn’t have been built without slavery...is that your assertion?

.Would have been built without slavery, but it would be that it wouldn't have been built as quickly or produced the amount of wealth that it did because of slavery.

 

[rightwinger]

Jesus made America great

 

[beagle9]

Stealing land, taking advantage of war to sell weapons, and attracting talent from other countries. Certainly hasn't been our cultivation of talent at home, that's for sure.

Stealing land from who in character back then, and what about having to deal with wars in order to protect our claim in culture and in character that makes up the entire nation ?? Its easy to make obscene statements as you and the left love to do, but your biggest enemy is the history books, and the ability for AMERICANS to read and understand it all for themselves.

What the left hates more than anything, is the fact that people whether in groups as inhabitants of a land or citizens of a nation, can be wrong in it's ideologies or culturalistic ways, and can be seen in their folly by those who know crazy when they see it. Remember when tribes would sacrifice in order to please the god's ?? If we as a civilized people were to encounter such a cult in the world in which we want to live, do you think that we could make peace with such a cult or would we have to make war with them, defeat them, and then include them back into the citizenship once a reprogramming of their warped minds takes place ?? Do you think we could have asked nicely for the Nazi's to just be a nicer people or to just ask Japan to abandon the brainwashing of their emperor ?? If you don't like what has gone on in America, and the progress that we have made over time in America, then don't let the door hit you in the ace on the way out.

What does any of this shit have to do with my post?

. What is it with some of you people here, do you have a comprehension problem or a non-ability to understand when a comparison, equasion, parrable, historic analysis and such is being made and/or used ?

 

[The VOR]

Its Constitution.

Putting God first, and including him in spirit into the Constitution. We couldn't have written a Constitution such as we have without him being added into the mix.

The reason we are claiming that we need to MAGA now, is because over the years there has been a negative force that has been attempting to remove God from everywhere in this nation.

It has been a relentless game of attrition that has been conducted by this negative force against us, yet it has been pushed back, and it is losing ground lately.

Hopefully the trend continues in the right direction which is to keep God in our midst always, and to continue to pray that he accepts our invitation to dwell amongst us always.

And for those of us who don't believe in fairy tales?

Socialism is a fairy tale, dumbass, and you believe in that.

Actually, socialism is a reality. Believing in things that don't exist are fairy tales, DOUCHEBAG.

 

[beagle9]

Its Constitution.

Putting God first, and including him in spirit into the Constitution. We couldn't have written a Constitution such as we have without him being added into the mix.

The reason we are claiming that we need to MAGA now, is because over the years there has been a negative force that has been attempting to remove God from everywhere in this nation.

It has been a relentless game of attrition that has been conducted by this negative force against us, yet it has been pushed back, and it is losing ground lately.

Hopefully the trend continues in the right direction which is to keep God in our midst always, and to continue to pray that he accepts our invitation to dwell amongst us always.

Article VI
All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

Article VI

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists
The Final Letter, as Sent
To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen


The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.


Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.


I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.


Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists (June 1998) - Library of Congress Information Bulletin

Well in what we are seeing right now today, is that such a loop hole that was created in words, has allowed a doorway in which the demons of today are using constantly in order to rise to power through that very doorway as is interpreted by those using it in these ways. Government power is the objective or target of the left in this country, and they have scoured through the documents in order to find their doorway in.

As noted - It (government) shall not restrict the free expression of or restrict the excersize of nor shall it prohibit the establishment of religion in this nation in which layeth within the hearts of man whom soon might take office within our government, and therefore if so can use it as a guiding light in times of great struggle and troubles to come, just as so many presidents and military officers had written in their letters and/or had done in the past. It has allowed them to develope just and moral decisions out of tragedy or tough circumstances while conducting themselves within any capacity or position of power that this nation had offered them through out time in the past.

The religious folks aren't encroaching on government, but rather it has been the other way around in this stage of the game.

Government being taken over by anti-religious or anti-Christianity zelots are the problem being experienced today, where as these zelots are using government power to crush Christianity, and not the other way around.

 

[John Shaw]

Its Constitution.

Putting God first, and including him in spirit into the Constitution. We couldn't have written a Constitution such as we have without him being added into the mix.

The reason we are claiming that we need to MAGA now, is because over the years there has been a negative force that has been attempting to remove God from everywhere in this nation.

It has been a relentless game of attrition that has been conducted by this negative force against us, yet it has been pushed back, and it is losing ground lately.

Hopefully the trend continues in the right direction which is to keep God in our midst always, and to continue to pray that he accepts our invitation to dwell amongst us always.

Article VI
All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

Article VI

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists
The Final Letter, as Sent
To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen


The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.


Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.


I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.


Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists (June 1998) - Library of Congress Information Bulletin

Well as we are seeing right now today, is that such a loop hole that was created in words, has allowed a doorway in which the demons of today are using constantly in order to rise to power through that very doorway as is interpreted by those using it in these ways. Government power is the objective or target of the left in this country, and they have scoured through the documents in order to find their doorway in.

As noted - It (government) shall not restrict the free expression of or restrict the excersize of nor shall it prohibit the establishment of religion in this nation in which layeth within the hearts of man whom soon might take office within our government, and therefore if so can use it as a guiding light in times of great struggle and troubles to come, just as so many presidents and military officers had written in their letters and/or had done in the past. It has allowed them to develope just and moral decisions out of tragedy or tough circumstances while conducting themselves within any capacity or position of power that this nation had offered them through out time in the past.

The religious folks aren't encroaching on government, but rather it has been the other way around in this stage of the game.

Government being taken over by anti-religious or anti-Christianity zelots are the problem being experienced today, where as these zelots are using government power to crush Christianity, and not the other way around.

You must be on some awesome drugs.

 

[beagle9]

Its Constitution.

Putting God first, and including him in spirit into the Constitution. We couldn't have written a Constitution such as we have without him being added into the mix.

The reason we are claiming that we need to MAGA now, is because over the years there has been a negative force that has been attempting to remove God from everywhere in this nation.

It has been a relentless game of attrition that has been conducted by this negative force against us, yet it has been pushed back, and it is losing ground lately.

Hopefully the trend continues in the right direction which is to keep God in our midst always, and to continue to pray that he accepts our invitation to dwell amongst us always.

God my ass...if you follow God you'll be more compassionate towards the poor, the immigrants and the refugees and less racist and more accepting. The so called liberals who don't use God to get to their goals have all of that...and I say this and I believe in God words and message. You guys so called conservatives in the US are the biggest hypocrites on the face of earth.

The left uses God to get acceptance of the poor and weak in this nation as one tactic, and when it works then they (the left) kills their souls with a big SUPRISE, where at this point the poor and weak find out they have been had, but it's to late because they have been used, and it led to the slaughter of the lost sheep they had become.