Zone1 What kind of LDS Mormon are you (Utah)?

[Donald H]

Mormons should frankly dump Joseph Smith and his magic rocks. It's all a lie and has trapped too many souls.

It's just a little lie compared to the Catholics dumping creation myths and turning to belief in Darwin's evolution!.
And did you know that they don't buy into the Noah's ark and the big flood either.

Ask Ding, or ask him about the big fish and jonah story?

Cut the mormons a bit of slack on their magic underwear for Dog's sake.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Here's your damn Mormons.

Utah v. Lafferty - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

There are, yes, criminal Mormons like the Laffertys, the Daybills, the Vallos, the Fourfor1.

 

[onefour1]

go ask your daddy - the liar moses - they'll feed you everything you can think of.

Moses was called of God to be a prophet and he led Israel out of Egypt by the power and strength of God with mighty miracles. Through Moses, God gave his law of Moses to the children of Israel.

 

[onefour1]

Here's your damn Mormons.

Utah v. Lafferty - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Notice in your article how the Lafferty's were excommunicated from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints before committing their heinous crime. Your flaw in pointing this out is that there is no church on the face of this earth with members who are absolutely perfect and never commit sin. I'm sure you can find murderers in many of the various Christian churches in the world. Mankind are fallen beings and are capable of committing all manner of sins regardless of their religious affiliation. What God would want is that mankind become faithful in keeping his commandments so that such murders would never occur.

 

[BreezeWood]

Moses was called of God to be a prophet and he led Israel out of Egypt by the power and strength of God with mighty miracles. Through Moses, God gave his law of Moses to the children of Israel.

never happened ...

- provide the tablets moses claimed were etched in the heavens as well destroyed by moses before ever being read.

 

[onefour1]

never happened ...

- provide the tablets moses claimed were etched in the heavens as well destroyed by moses before ever being read.

After Moses broke the first tablets, God had him create a new set of tablets that God would again write his law upon (see Exodus 34). Those new tablets were had within the ark of the covenant. We don't have the tablets today but we do have copies of what was written upon them (see Exodus 20). Even if we had the original tablets, you would probably claim they were not from God.

 

[BreezeWood]

After Moses broke the first tablets ... but we do have copies of what was written upon them

you have nothing from the heavens as you claim -

what is in their bibles are used to persecute and victimize the innocent for centuries unabated by those religions.

you did not reference the authority moses used to destroy heavenly works preventing their view for anyone else for reasoning ... moses - the shall not murder - is a heretic, liar and murderer.

 

[onefour1]

you have nothing from the heavens as you claim -

what is in their bibles are used to persecute and victimize the innocent for centuries unabated by those religions.

Lets take a look at what was on the plates:

1. Thou shalt have no other Gods before me.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
4, Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
5, Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
6, Thou shalt not kill.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8. Thou shalt not steal.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.

So what evil do you see in these teaching from God that were given to his prophet Moses? How were these used to persecute and victimize the innocent for centuries?

you did not reference the authority moses used to destroy heavenly works preventing their view for anyone else for reasoning ... moses - the shall not murder - is a heretic, liar and murderer.

Like I've shown you in Exodus 34, Moses made other plates and God again wrote his law upon them. These were had for ages and written in other works and we have them today as I've shown you above.

 

[BreezeWood]

So what evil do you see in these teaching from God that were given to his prophet Moses?

they are not from the heavens anything those religions claim they have - they are not justifiable.

they are from the liar moses copies are written by others ... you have not given an explanation for moses destroying the original stones before they were read by anyone - those are what would be inspiration from the heavens contrary to every commandment claimed, written by the false desert religions.

1. Thou shalt have no other Gods before me.

no such commandment was ever made from the heavens having no relevancy for admission to the everlasting - is a false endearment moses chose for himself and the religion of judaism ...

etc etc etc ....

 

[tyroneweaver]

I have known Mormons all of my life. The religion is all American, and many like me find it very interesting without believing in it.

Robert W dropped the other day that he is Utah LDS but with a twist. He does not believe that Joseph Smith practiced polygamy. (Robert W, is this right? Correct me if I am wrong).

Modern Latter Day Saints are facing schisms in the future.

One, a monogamous Jospeh Smith church with no need for temple work or garment wearing. Michelle Brady Stone and Denver Snuffer are two charismatic leaders of this persuasion.

Two, the LDS Utah church as it is today, with a monogamous present and the polygamous past, temple work, etc. The current leadership as it is now with three high priests and 12 apostles are in charge, very heavily masculine dominant.

Three, an actively plural marriage mainstream LDS Church based in Salt Lake City. This is not the Fundamentalist LDS Church, which is a different organization altogether.

Let's dialogue.

Im a practicing Mormon that grew up in Utah. Joseph Smith definitely practiced plural marriage
There have been break off groups that still try and practice it My dad was a high Mormon Church official and he would get letters from Church headquarters of certain people practicing plural marriage in our area to excommunicate
There once was a pamphlet written by Joseph Fielding Smith it was called, The Origin of Plural Marriage and Blood Atonement. In there he gave eye witness accounts of his family and his great uncle Joseph practicing plural marriage

heres a quote from the pamphet by JFS himself
THE UTAH VISIT.

In connection with this, let me call your attention to
your visit to Salt Lake City some three years ago. At that
time you met President Lorenzo Snow, a man whose veracity
cannot justly be questioned; you heard him bear his testi-
mony to the effect that he was taught that principle by the
Prophet Joseph Smith, and that the Prophet declared to
Lorenzo Snow that he had married his sister, Eliza R. Snow.
You met and conversed with Lucy Walker Smith, and she
told you that she was married to the Prophet Joseph Smith on
the first day of May, 1843, in Nauvoo, Elder William Clayton
performing the ceremony. You met Gatherine Phillips Smith,
who told you she was married in August, 1843, in Nauvoo,
to the Patriarch Hyrum Smith, his brother Joseph the Prophet
officiating in that ceremony. You will remember that the
first wives of both these men were living at the time. I hardly
think these testimonies have passed from your memory in so
brief a time. I am personally acquainted with these women,
and know that they are truthful and honest — honorable
women, whose testimonies should be believed.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Im a practicing Mormon that grew up in Utah. Joseph Smith definitely practiced plural marriage
There have been break off groups that still try and practice it My dad was a high Mormon Church official and he would get letters from Church headquarters of certain people practicing plural marriage in our area to excommunicate
There once was a pamphlet written by Joseph Fielding Smith it was called, The Origin of Plural Marriage and Blood Atonement. In there he gave eye witness accounts of his family and his great uncle Joseph practicing plural marriage

I know many who believe as you do. Reform Mormonism (JosephasMonogamous) is holding a Journal of Mormon Polygamy Conference in March of University of Utah, so I have been told.

 

[ding]

It's just a little lie compared to the Catholics dumping creation myths and turning to belief in Darwin's evolution!.
And did you know that they don't buy into the Noah's ark and the big flood either.

Ask Ding, or ask him about the big fish and jonah story?

Cut the mormons a bit of slack on their magic underwear for Dog's sake.

There will most likely be a point in your life when you will regret what you were.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Im a practicing Mormon that grew up in Utah. Joseph Smith definitely practiced plural marriage
There have been break off groups that still try and practice it My dad was a high Mormon Church official and he would get letters from Church headquarters of certain people practicing plural marriage in our area to excommunicate

I know many who believe as you do. Reform Mormonism (JosephasMonogamous) is holding a Journal of Mormon Polygamy Conference in March of University of Utah, so I have been told.

I quoted from the pamphlet above. read it
If I go to the U of U it's only to buy a ute sweatshirt from the Book Store or a Ute Bball game... and..
Go Utes.

 

[hobelim]

100%. Just stating the facts. Homosexual behavior by definition is deviant.

Baloney.

Homosexuality is by nature only one of the varieties of NORMAL human sexuality. What about hemaphrodites? According to your ignorance anyone they would have sex with would be sinning.

Derp.

You get a room full of men and some would be a bully, some will be a follower, some would be a comedian, some would be an artist, some would be a mathematician, some would be a jock, some would be a thinker, some would be rational, some would be insane, some would 'just believe' in nonsense, some would not, some would be attracted to women, some would be attracted to men.

If you can't deal with that reality, crawl into a hole. You have no moral or ethical basis for your bigotry unless this is a case of homophobia, self loathing, based on your own sexual insecurities.
You can't blame that on God or scripture since you understand neither the words nor subjects.

So, do you get a boner in church when staring at a naked Jewish man dying on a bloody cross?

Freak.

Life begins at conception.

Life will begin when you clean out all the garbage festering in your defiled and contaminated mind. Until then you are just a meat puppet unlikely to ever become a "living being", a God made man.

As it is written;

"Very naughty boys who remain on Pleasure Island too long will be wearing jackass ears for life."
(Pinocchio 3:14)

Can I get a Hee Haw?

 

[tyroneweaver]

There are, yes, criminal Mormons like the Laffertys, the Daybills, the Vallos, the Fourfor1.

ya, better not turn your back on that tyroneweaver either out there in Burley, idaho

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

ya, better not turn your back on that tyroneweaver either out there in Burley, idaho

Yes, better be aware of the SpudMeisterMormon.

You been cold up there the last couple of weeks?

 

[tyroneweaver]

Yes, better be aware of the SpudMeisterMormon.

You been cold up there the last couple of weeks?

very, I hate it. But... Warming trend starts tomorrow So by friday low 40's
Which I can play golf in if the wind don't blow.
thx for asking

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

very, I hate it. But... Warming trend starts tomorrow So by friday low 40's
Which I can play golf in if the wind don't blow.
thx for asking

It's been pretty chilly on I15 out of St George to N215 the last two weeks.

Will be 68 by the weekend. Still no rain.

 

[ding]

Baloney.

Homosexuality is by nature only one of the varieties of NORMAL human sexuality. What about hemaphrodites? According to your ignorance anyone they would have sex with would be sinning.

Derp.

You get a room full of men and some would be a bully, some will be a follower, some would be a comedian, some would be an artist, some would be a mathematician, some would be a jock, some would be a thinker, some would be rational, some would be insane, some would 'just believe' in nonsense, some would not, some would be attracted to women, some would be attracted to men.

If you can't deal with that reality, crawl into a hole. You have no moral or ethical basis for your bigotry unless this is a case of homophobia, self loathing, based on your own sexual insecurities.
You can't blame that on God or scripture since you understand neither the words nor subjects.

So, do you get a boner in church when staring at a naked Jewish man dying on a bloody cross?

Freak.


Life will begin when you clean out all the garbage festering in your defiled and contaminated mind. Until then you are just a meat puppet unlikely to ever become a "living being", a God made man.

As it is written;

"Very naughty boys who remain on Pleasure Island too long will be wearing jackass ears for life."
(Pinocchio 3:14)

Can I get a Hee Haw?

I'm not going to argue with you about statistics and science. I'll just talk over you instead. Homoseuality is statistically a deviant behavior. Life beginning at conception is based upon empirical scientific evidence.

Deal with it.