What Isael can do to save itself -?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Wow you dug really deep and found a second marriage between a Jew and a Christian.

David Arquette married Courteny cox (He is Jewish and she is not)

She is one beauty too -

This is not a debate that I care to participate in no more

see ya -

You were debating?

 

[72VirginCamels]

You post about Israel's money train but nothing about its efforts to foster peace in the Middle East. You would think these Zions believe money will guarantee their entrance into heaven.

Not likely, no not even close. But this guy loves ya

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Of course some people believe that Jew hate guarantees them a place in heaven.

 

[tooldtocare]

Here is a thread that says it

NOTtheTalk - Anti-Semitism where did it come from? (International)


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[Liability]

Somebody doesn't like Jooooooz or Israel.

 

[tooldtocare]

[/quote]Of course some people believe that Jew hate guarantees them a place in heaven.[/QUOTE]

What folks -?

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[tooldtocare]

Somebody doesn't like Jooooooz or Israel.

Besides seeing yourself in the mirrow who in the hell are you referring tooo ?

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[Liability]

Somebody doesn't like Jooooooz or Israel.

Besides seeing yourself in the mirrow who in the hell are you referring tooo ?

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You ought to be able quote the post(s) of mine which have supposedly led you to the conclusion that I have a problem with Jewish people or with Israel.

Sorry, but who and what you are is so clear, that what you say loses any shred of credibility.

 

[tooldtocare]

“Surely you do know this is a religious war perpetrated by Muslims ?”

Perpetuated by Muslim’s ?

Even to the last day you cannot help but tell another lie

How sad -

btw this wasn’t yesterday my sweet plump dumpling

The Hypocrisy of the Middle East Conflict

Americans only get one side of the story and it seems so do the Israelis. They lie to themselves and US.

Israeli FM Says Israel does not Target Civilians as Palestinian Civilians Victimized by Israeli Warplanes September 7, 2003

Salvan Shalom, Israeli Foreign Minister, was quoted as saying Sunday to Israeli Radio, Arabic Service, that Israel does not target Palestinian civilians when striking Palestinian Intifada activists.

http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_e/ipc_e-1/e_News/news2003/2003-09/029.html

The Jews Murder a 7-year-old boy

Mohammed fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1112
055,00.html

Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die*September 8, 2003

The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni , was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_di
e.htm

Chris McGrealThe Guardian28 July 2003

Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother , Lila Abu Selmi. Almost every day here the Israelis shoot at random, so when you hear it you get inside as quickly as possible," says Mrs Selmi. "Haneen went to the grocery store to buy some crisps. When the shooting started, I came out to find her.

She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying, 'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other. She was still in my arms and she died."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1007051,
00.html

Israel Baby is born then dies Ha'aretz*September 11, 2003*Birth and death at the checkpointhttp://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/338937.htmlAn eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends , the youngster's grieving mother said today.

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,71
27339%255E1702,00.html

Three shot in the back by Israeli snipers, one a 15-year-old boy

Siege off NablusJanuary, 2004

Two men and a boy were killed by Israeli military fire since this morning. The first, Amjad Bilal Masri is a 15 year old boy who was shot while standing in front of his house. The sniper bullet hit Amjad in the back.

He died on his way to the hospital. The second is Amer Kathym Arafat who was also shot in the back by a sniper bullet. The third is Rouhi Hazem Shouman, 25 who was also shot in the back by a sniper.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals/lift_the_s
iege.htm

“ I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport." From Khan Yunis refugee camp, Gaza, Palestine. The Diary of journalist Christopher Hedges ("Gaza Diary").

http://www.ariga.com/5763/2003-01-19-windowsnewsletter.shtml

Yahoo! Groups

Israeli Army to investigate 'trophy photos' of dead Palestinians.

by Tom Regan | csmonitor.comThe Christian Science MonitorNovember 22, 2004

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1122/dailyUpdate.htm
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What is there left to say ? -

 

[Hossfly]

“Surely you do know this is a religious war perpetrated by Muslims ?”

Perpetuated by Muslim’s ?

Even to the last day you cannot help but tell another lie

How sad -

btw this wasn’t yesterday my sweet plump dumpling

The Hypocrisy of the Middle East Conflict

Americans only get one side of the story and it seems so do the Israelis. They lie to themselves and US.

Israeli FM Says Israel does not Target Civilians as Palestinian Civilians Victimized by Israeli Warplanes September 7, 2003

Salvan Shalom, Israeli Foreign Minister, was quoted as saying Sunday to Israeli Radio, Arabic Service, that Israel does not target Palestinian civilians when striking Palestinian Intifada activists.

http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_e/ipc_e-1/e_News/news2003/2003-09/029.html

The Jews Murder a 7-year-old boy

Mohammed fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1112
055,00.html

Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die*September 8, 2003

The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni , was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_di
e.htm

Chris McGrealThe Guardian28 July 2003

Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother , Lila Abu Selmi. Almost every day here the Israelis shoot at random, so when you hear it you get inside as quickly as possible," says Mrs Selmi. "Haneen went to the grocery store to buy some crisps. When the shooting started, I came out to find her.

She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying, 'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other. She was still in my arms and she died."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1007051,
00.html

Israel Baby is born then dies Ha'aretz*September 11, 2003*Birth and death at the checkpointhttp://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/338937.htmlAn eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends , the youngster's grieving mother said today.

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,71
27339%255E1702,00.html

Three shot in the back by Israeli snipers, one a 15-year-old boy

Siege off NablusJanuary, 2004

Two men and a boy were killed by Israeli military fire since this morning. The first, Amjad Bilal Masri is a 15 year old boy who was shot while standing in front of his house. The sniper bullet hit Amjad in the back.

He died on his way to the hospital. The second is Amer Kathym Arafat who was also shot in the back by a sniper bullet. The third is Rouhi Hazem Shouman, 25 who was also shot in the back by a sniper.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals/lift_the_s
iege.htm

“ I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport." From Khan Yunis refugee camp, Gaza, Palestine. The Diary of journalist Christopher Hedges ("Gaza Diary").

http://www.ariga.com/5763/2003-01-19-windowsnewsletter.shtml

Yahoo! Groups

Israeli Army to investigate 'trophy photos' of dead Palestinians.

by Tom Regan | csmonitor.comThe Christian Science MonitorNovember 22, 2004

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1122/dailyUpdate.htm
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What is there left to say ? -

Well, for one thing each link you provided either wouldn't open, said error-not found or said server failed to locate. Try some different impartial links.

 

[Ropey]

Wow you dug really deep and found a second marriage between a Jew and a Christian.

David Arquette married Courteny cox (He is Jewish and she is not)

She is one beauty too -

This is not a debate that I care to participate in no more

see ya -

 

[SAYIT]

From: To old
Takeaway the petty donations to this failed abomination and you have pennies to the dollar. It is a failed experiment in masquerading as a holy people, and what a joke it has been. I even laugh at the pictograms posted here. Straight out of midnight horror flicks.
wow, they fail to listen just as it was written
Still no suggestions on how to save their souls -?
cause you ain’t got any



The title of this thread suggests that Israel must take certain actions to save itself yet all of the author's [To-old] posts claim that Jews, not Israel, must take these actions. To-old seems to be hiding his true feelings behind code words. If you mean Jews, To-old, say Jews [unless, of course, you're To-old].

 

[72VirginCamels]

Anti semtism is a mental illness. In your case it comes from your early childhood, famiy environment, upbringing, schools, religious teachings, in short it is learned behavior. Pigs will raise piglets to continue being pigs.

 

[Wolverine1984]

The Counter Jihad Report? Good source.

Indeed the source may be biased ... I took my cue from you as you often post biased sources as evidence ...

However you are right, biased sources can't be trusted so my question is this ,Are you saying that Christians are not prosecuted in Muslim countries and they have total religious freedoms ?

We are not talking about Muslim countries. Palestine is one of the most "western" countries in the ME. Religion is only an issue for hard core fanatics as it is in many other places.

The mayor of Ramallah is a Christian woman. She was elected in a Muslim majority city. A Christian was elected to parliament in Gaza. A Christian woman sat in the cabinet of the Hamas led government.

Israeli police prevented Christians from celebrating Easter in East Jerusalem.

Christians celebrated Easter in the West Bank without a cop in sight.

Christians celebrated Easter in Gaza without a cop in sight.

LOL

Palestine is one of the most "western" countries in the ME.

Really ?

research on domestic violence in some Arab countries has provided considerable evidence to debunk the myth that wife-battering affects only a small percentage of women. In Egypt, the Egyptian Demographic and Health Survey of 1995 (El Zanaty et al., 1996), conducted among a national random sample of 14, 779 women, indicated that one out of three Egyptian women ever married has been beaten at least once since marriage and one
third of those were abused during pregnancy. In Palestine, two national surveys were undertaken in the West Bank and Gaza Strip using
systematic random samples of respectively 2,410 (1994) and 1,334 (1995) married Palestinian women (Haj Yahia, 2001). The results showed that up to 34% of women participating in the first survey and 37% of those participating in the second survey reported having experienced one or more acts of physical violence at least once during the 12 months

This is from the Archive of women's heath.
Violence against women in Arab and Islamic countries.pdf - 4shared.com - document sharing - download

Are those numbers true to the 'lesser' western countries ?

In what 'lesser' western countries does that happen ?

Execution of the pig at the hands of the al-Qassam Brigades.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjI_5A7z0u4&feature=player_embedded"]‫[/ame]

And a final question , how many western countries do this ?

Yes , the 'Most' western country indeed ...

 

[P F Tinmore]

Indeed the source may be biased ... I took my cue from you as you often post biased sources as evidence ...

However you are right, biased sources can't be trusted so my question is this ,Are you saying that Christians are not prosecuted in Muslim countries and they have total religious freedoms ?

We are not talking about Muslim countries. Palestine is one of the most "western" countries in the ME. Religion is only an issue for hard core fanatics as it is in many other places.

The mayor of Ramallah is a Christian woman. She was elected in a Muslim majority city. A Christian was elected to parliament in Gaza. A Christian woman sat in the cabinet of the Hamas led government.

Israeli police prevented Christians from celebrating Easter in East Jerusalem.

Christians celebrated Easter in the West Bank without a cop in sight.

Christians celebrated Easter in Gaza without a cop in sight.

LOL
Really ?

research on domestic violence in some Arab countries has provided considerable evidence to debunk the myth that wife-battering affects only a small percentage of women. In Egypt, the Egyptian Demographic and Health Survey of 1995 (El Zanaty et al., 1996), conducted among a national random sample of 14, 779 women, indicated that one out of three Egyptian women ever married has been beaten at least once since marriage and one
third of those were abused during pregnancy. In Palestine, two national surveys were undertaken in the West Bank and Gaza Strip using
systematic random samples of respectively 2,410 (1994) and 1,334 (1995) married Palestinian women (Haj Yahia, 2001). The results showed that up to 34% of women participating in the first survey and 37% of those participating in the second survey reported having experienced one or more acts of physical violence at least once during the 12 months

This is from the Archive of women's heath.
Violence against women in Arab and Islamic countries.pdf - 4shared.com - document sharing - download

Are those numbers true to the 'lesser' western countries ?

In what 'lesser' western countries does that happen ?

Execution of the pig at the hands of the al-Qassam Brigades.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjI_5A7z0u4&feature=player_embedded"]‫[/ame]

And a final question , how many western countries do this ?

Yes , the 'Most' western country indeed ...

You jumped off of Christians onto women, but that's OK. Perhaps you can get back to Christians later.

I do not know the numbers in the west but they are bad enough to create domestic violence laws. That would not happen if it were not a problem.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCB-ULChV4]Jordan's Queen Rania on Arab women - YouTube[/ame]

However, Queen Rania stated that one in three women worldwide experience violence. That is in line with the numbers for Egypt and Palestine.

I await your response on my post about Palestinian Christians.

 

[Wolverine1984]

We are not talking about Muslim countries. Palestine is one of the most "western" countries in the ME. Religion is only an issue for hard core fanatics as it is in many other places.

The mayor of Ramallah is a Christian woman. She was elected in a Muslim majority city. A Christian was elected to parliament in Gaza. A Christian woman sat in the cabinet of the Hamas led government.

Israeli police prevented Christians from celebrating Easter in East Jerusalem.

Christians celebrated Easter in the West Bank without a cop in sight.

Christians celebrated Easter in Gaza without a cop in sight.

LOL
Really ?
This is from the Archive of women's heath.
Violence against women in Arab and Islamic countries.pdf - 4shared.com - document sharing - download

Are those numbers true to the 'lesser' western countries ?

In what 'lesser' western countries does that happen ?

Execution of the pig at the hands of the al-Qassam Brigades.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjI_5A7z0u4&feature=player_embedded"]‫[/ame]

And a final question , how many western countries do this ?

Yes , the 'Most' western country indeed ...

You jumped off of Christians onto women, but that's OK. Perhaps you can get back to Christians later.

I do not know the numbers in the west but they are bad enough to create domestic violence laws. That would not happen if it were not a problem.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCB-ULChV4"]Jordan's Queen Rania on Arab women - YouTube[/ame]

However, Queen Rania stated that one in three women worldwide experience violence. That is in line with the numbers for Egypt and Palestine.

I await your response on my post about Palestinian Christians.

First of all your statment said that Palestine is the most 'Western' country in the middle east ...(Which is not true as i showed you above...) You did not say that Palestine is the most Christian friendly country in the ME... So you opened the door for this...

I do not know the numbers in the west but they are bad enough to create domestic violence laws. That would not happen if it were not a problem.

This is a very weak argument, laws are the reflection of society, and they show what this society would and would not tolerate. Thus making a law stating that domestic violence is illegal means that this kind of behavior is intolerable for this society (True for western countries.)

Australia is the country with the lowest homicide rate in the year (2010) This means that murder is not a common problem in Australia.
By your logic , this would mean that Australia should not outlaw homicide ? This is absurd.

The fact that some countries don't have laws against domestic violence shows that the society in that country do not consider this to be a problem.
In Palestinian law page it states that:

According to Article 4:

1. Islam is the official religion in Palestine. Respect and sanctity of all other heavenly religions shall be maintained.
2. The principles of Islamic Shari'a shall be the main source of legislation.
3. Arabic shall be the official language.

Palestinian law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm sure you know that one of the aspects of Sharia law is the prohibition the use of intoxicants (alcohol/drug use).
So it would not be a big surprise if there was a Palestinian law that banns alcohol , and no law against domestic violence.
So the society is basically saying "We will not tolerate drinking of alcohol , but domestic violence ... well I guess we are OK with that ...".

Israeli police prevented Christians from celebrating Easter in East Jerusalem.

Christians celebrated Easter in the West Bank without a cop in sight.

Christians celebrated Easter in Gaza without a cop in sight.

Do you have the link to show why Israeli police had prevented the Easter celebrations ?

Anyway , are you equating not being able celebrate Easter to this :

Slain Church leader

In April 2007, one of Gaza Baptist Church's leaders, Rami Ayyad, was kidnapped, publicly beaten, and murdered by unidentified Islamic militants.[16][17][18] Ayyad—the first Palestinian Christian in living memory to be murdered for his religious faith[1][19]—had been the manager of Gaza's only Christian bookstore, The Teacher's Bookshop.[20][12] Following Ayyad's death, authorities advised Pastor Massad to relocate in order to ensure the safety of himself and his family.[4] As a result of the violence, regular attendance at the church was adversely affected in following months.[21][22]

Gaza Baptist Church - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How many Christians were advised by the authorities of Israel to leave to ensure their safety ? And for that matter , how many Christians where brutally murdered just for being christian by Israeli militants?


PS,
I have the out-most respect for Queen Rania and King Abdullah of Jordan, if all Arab countries were moving in the direction she said it would be better for everyone especial Arab women.

 

[Douger]

Why is their GDP so large?

What a joke. Israel's GDP stands for GodDumptedPoor us so we begged for handouts and the US handed out lol

Their GDP was about $235 billion last year, about $31,000 per capita.

GDP = private consumption + gross investment + government spending + (exports − imports)

Govt spending includes the welfare coming directly from the Fallen Empires(including the queen whores), Donations from the multitude of Zionist(Nazi) orgs around the world, etc.
Keep in mind IsNtReal is full of hooked nosed fatcats that got there long after they made their money. They do plenty of spending and jetsetting, running those numbers up.

It's like the idiots posting about " YAYYYY Auto sales" That has nothing to do with the conditions in the empire. It's corporate success and has nothing to do with Walmart Shoppers.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why is their GDP so large?

What a joke. Israel's GDP stands for GodDumptedPoor us so we begged for handouts and the US handed out lol

Their GDP was about $235 billion last year, about $31,000 per capita.

GDP = private consumption + gross investment + government spending + (exports − imports)

Govt spending includes the welfare coming directly from the Fallen Empires(including the queen whores), Donations from the multitude of Zionist(Nazi) orgs around the world, etc.
Keep in mind IsNtReal is full of hooked nosed fatcats that got there long after they made their money. They do plenty of spending and jetsetting, running those numbers up.

It's like the idiots posting about " YAYYYY Auto sales" That has nothing to do with the conditions in the empire. It's corporate success and has nothing to do with Walmart Shoppers.

GDP isn't related to production?

 

[Wolverine1984]

Why is their GDP so large?

What a joke. Israel's GDP stands for GodDumptedPoor us so we begged for handouts and the US handed out lol

Their GDP was about $235 billion last year, about $31,000 per capita.

GDP = private consumption + gross investment + government spending + (exports − imports)

Govt spending includes the welfare coming directly from the Fallen Empires(including the queen whores), Donations from the multitude of Zionist(Nazi) orgs around the world, etc.
Keep in mind IsNtReal is full of hooked nosed fatcats that got there long after they made their money. They do plenty of spending and jetsetting, running those numbers up.

It's like the idiots posting about " YAYYYY Auto sales" That has nothing to do with the conditions in the empire. It's corporate success and has nothing to do with Walmart Shoppers.

In the situation where GDP is defined as the value of the final goods and services (as in the first definition), the value of intermediate goods is not counted. GDP also does not count production in the household chores or voluntary work done by social workers and charity institutions. Furthermore, GDP does not count philanthropic actions such as giving gifts or charity donation.

Govt spending includes the welfare coming directly from the Fallen Empires(including the queen whores)

You know , Proof is not a dirty word ...

In summation, You did not present any statement of substance, the formula for GDP is correct but other then that , you have nothing.

 

[Ropey]

Israel is recreated and strong. Israel will do what it needs to in order to survive. Our Samson tells us so.

 

[tooldtocare]

Israel is recreated and strong. Israel will do what it needs to in order to survive. Our Samson tells us so.

What Israel can do is erase its existance from all maps and the Zions living there should move back to where they came from assuming they would be welcome. If not sneak across the US/Mexico border and become a Mexian.

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