What Is Your Own Definition of Liberal and Conservative?

[22lcidw]

Like I said, you tards would not recognize a real conservative principle if it kicked you in the balls.

The only definition the moron who started this topic could come up with is (paraphrasing), "We love Merka, the Lefties hate it."

Wow. So profound. Such deep, penetrating, analytical thinking. So original. Someone give that man a Pulitzer.

And people scoff when I say a conservative used to be the smartest person in the room but nowadays those calling themselves "conservatives" are likely to be the biggest idiot in the room.

Go to inner cities in most blue areas. You will find stupidity in abundance. Only they are given excuses. The elites who live in cities like royalty prefer it that way. Extract just enough from the peasants to transfer to the denizens there and keep the barbarians at bay in the ghettos. Trump is a caricature to you. You must not see the endless caricatures of Progs. But then again, they are not ever shown by the entertainers in a bad way.

 

[Not a Monkeys Uncle]

Like I said, you tards would not recognize a real conservative principle if it kicked you in the balls.

The only definition the moron who started this topic could come up with is (paraphrasing), "We love Merka, the Lefties hate it."

Wow. So profound. Such deep, penetrating, analytical thinking. So original. Someone give that man a Pulitzer.

And people scoff when I say a conservative used to be the smartest person in the room but nowadays those calling themselves "conservatives" are likely to be the biggest idiot in the room.

And right now YOU are the stupidest person in THIS room.

 

[Not a Monkeys Uncle]

Conservativeas believe in the dignity of the individual; that we, as human beings, have a right to live, live freely, and pursue that which motivates us not because man or some government says so, but because these are God-given natural rights. Conservatism is the antidote to tyranny. It's the only one. It's based on thousands of years of human experience. There is nothing narrow about the conservative philosophy. It's a liberating philosophy. The Conservative does not despise government. He despises tyranny. This is precisely why the Conservative reveres the Constitution and insists on adherence to it.

As Conservativeas believe in the dignity of the individual, Utopianism (i.e. Socialism, Marxism and the American Left) attempts to shape and dominate the individual by doing two things at once: it strips the individual of his uniqueness, making him indistinguishable from the multitudes that form what is commonly referred to as 'the masses,' but it simultaneously assigns him a group identity based on race, ethnicity, age, gender, income, etc., to highlight differences within the masses. Utopianism's equality is intolerant of diversity, uniqueness, debate, etc., for utopianism's purpose requires a singular focus. There can be no competing voices or causes slowing or obstructing society's long and righteous march. Utopianism relies on deceit, propaganda, dependence, intimidation, and force. In its more aggressive state, as the malignancy of the enterprise becomes more painful and its impossibility more obvious, it incites violence inasmuch as avenues for free expression and civil dissent are cut off. Violence becomes the individual's primary recourse and the state's primary response. Ultimately, the only way out is the state's termination

- Mark Levin

 

[Stann]

What exactly would you like to see function better, and how would you change it? I won’t play 20 questions….

I am not a politician, I don't have all
answers all I know is things need to change for it to be better for everyone. Unlike you I trust the politicians to do what is best for the country and not what is best for them. Although that trust is waning a bit of late.

 

[j-mac]

I am not a politician, I don't have all
answers all I know is things need to change for it to be better for everyone. Unlike you I trust the politicians to do what is best for the country and not what is best for them. Although that trust is waning a bit of late.

So, you don’t know what change you want, or how to make it happen, but were quick to post a meaningless bumper sticker, and pledge allegiance to politicians? Wow…

 

[PoliticalChic]

What change?

Conservatives believe that there are moral truths, right and wrong, and that these truths are permanent. The result of infracting these truths will be atrocities and social disaster. Liberals believe in a privatization of morality so complete that no code of conduct is generally accepted, practically to the point of ‘do what you can get away with’. These beliefs are aimed at the gratification of appetites and exhibit anarchistic impulses.

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Conservatives believe that custom and tradition result in individuals living in peace. Law is custom and precedent. Liberals are destroyers of custom and convention. To a conservative, change should be gradual, as the new society is often inferior to the old. We build on the ideas and experience of our ancestors. The species is wiser than the individual (Burke). ​

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a. From Eric Hoffer in The True Believer, “…people with a sense of fulfillment think it is a good world land would like to conserve it as it is, while the frustrated favor radical change.”​

b."… fallacy that something is bad simply because it is old or good because it is new." Logan Albright​

Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

 

[j-mac]

Conservatives believe that there are moral truths, right and wrong, and that these truths are permanent. The result of infracting these truths will be atrocities and social disaster. Liberals believe in a privatization of morality so complete that no code of conduct is generally accepted, practically to the point of ‘do what you can get away with’. These beliefs are aimed at the gratification of appetites and exhibit anarchistic impulses.

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Conservatives believe that custom and tradition result in individuals living in peace. Law is custom and precedent. Liberals are destroyers of custom and convention. To a conservative, change should be gradual, as the new society is often inferior to the old. We build on the ideas and experience of our ancestors. The species is wiser than the individual (Burke). ​

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a. From Eric Hoffer in The True Believer, “…people with a sense of fulfillment think it is a good world land would like to conserve it as it is, while the frustrated favor radical change.”​

b."… fallacy that something is bad simply because it is old or good because it is new." Logan Albright​

Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

I guess I just can’t believe they can’t see what they are doing to the country…

 

[PoliticalChic]

I guess I just can’t believe they can’t see what they are doing to the country…

It's due to the religion they belong to....


There are two religions in conflict.

That of the Founders, the Judeo-Christian faith.
The Bible is its foundation.


And that of Democrats, Liberals, Communists, Nazis, Fascists.....Militant Secularism. Lacking self-awareness, the Democrats, Liberals, Progressives ridicule religion as superstition......but kneel to their false religion, Militant Secularism.
From the Amazon review of Godless, by Coulter…


Though liberalism rejects the idea of God and reviles people of faith, it bears all the attributes of a religion. In Godless, Coulter throws open the doors of the Church of Liberalism, showing us its sacraments (abortion), its holy writ (Roe v. Wade), its martyrs (from Soviet spy Alger Hiss to cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal), its clergy (public school teachers), its churches (government schools, where prayer is prohibited but condoms are free), its doctrine of infallibility (as manifest in the "absolute moral authority" of spokesmen from Cindy Sheehan to Max Cleland), and its cosmology (in which mankind is an inconsequential accident).

Then, of course, there's the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

 

[dudmuck]

Conservatives believe that there are moral truths, right and wrong, and that these truths are permanent. The result of infracting these truths will be atrocities and social disaster. Liberals believe in a privatization of morality so complete that no code of conduct is generally accepted, practically to the point of ‘do what you can get away with’. These beliefs are aimed at the gratification of appetites and exhibit anarchistic impulses.

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Conservatives believe that custom and tradition result in individuals living in peace. Law is custom and precedent. Liberals are destroyers of custom and convention. To a conservative, change should be gradual, as the new society is often inferior to the old. We build on the ideas and experience of our ancestors. The species is wiser than the individual (Burke). ​

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a. From Eric Hoffer in The True Believer, “…people with a sense of fulfillment think it is a good world land would like to conserve it as it is, while the frustrated favor radical change.”​

b."… fallacy that something is bad simply because it is old or good because it is new." Logan Albright​

Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

its actually more simple than that now

 

[PoliticalChic]

its actually more simple than that now

As is so often the case, because you Progressives/Democrats lie about everything.....


.....the exact opposite is the case.



One can be an American patriot, or a Progressive/Democrat.....but never both....

Let me explain why:

The Constitution was a distillation of the views of Madison, Jefferson and Franklin.
Progressivism is from the views of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx.
It became the doctrines of Hitler, Stalin, Mao.....and the Democrat Party.


Now, let's quote 'progressives,' also known as totalitarians.

a. The Germans have a history of embracing authoritarian rule. As the German philosopher Hegel said, “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest” (Ralf Dahrendorf, Society and Democracy in Germany).


b. The attitude of the FDR government can be seen in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.”

From a speech delivered on the Senate floor

May 14, 1943 Happy Chandler's dangerous statism - The Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions



c. Jim Cramer, one of the Left's apparatchiks, say what Democrats believe, encourage.....but blames it on the other side.

“government has a right to force you to obey and has always exercised it especially under GOP”

Anyone think to question what the GOP has forced any to obey about?



Masks?



Injections?



Taxation?


See what I mean about the Left/Progressives lying about everything?



The Democrats are the European Party, the party of Obey.

We’re the other side, the personal liberty, individualism, the right to make personal decisions.