bigrebnc1775
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What if I did not want to be enrolled in the public option?
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What if I did not want to be enrolled in the public option?
MikeK
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A major problem with the existing health care system, whether privately or federally (Medicare/Medicaid) funded, is the medical bureaucracy, as manifest in the following example.
Some time ago I pulled a hangnail and developed an painful infection on a Friday evening. It was too late to call my GP so I went to a hospital emergency ward. To shorten the long story I spent four hours there which included a long clerical interview and about two hours lying in a ward bed, fully dressed but covered with a sheet. A tired intern, who seemed bored and annoyed by my relatively minor complaint, insisted on surgically opening the infection in spite of my request for an antibiotic prescription. The bottom line was a stinging incision, a half-hour soak in Betadyne, a huge bandage and two days inconvenience during healing.
None of the above was necessary. I'd had the same infection twice before, once in the military and once during my GP's normal office hours. Both times I was given penicillin tablets. Both times the infection receded within minutes and was gone within hours. But the bottom line in this emergency ward situation was my insurance provider was billed over six hundred dollars (for "surgery") and I was hit with a $175 co-pay.
When I had the same infection while in the Marine Corps I walked over to Sick Bay, a Navy Medical Corpsman looked at the finger and gave me a little box of penicillin tablets. The whole thing took about ten minutes and the infection was gone within a few hours.
Another time, while on field maneuvers in the Philippines, I developed a huge boil on an inner thigh that was painfully disabling. A Navy Corpsman, who appeared to be no older than I, gave me a shot of novocaine, a penicillin shot, he lanced the boil, put a drain in it, dressed it and gave me a little box of penicillin tablets. All this took about half an hour and was done in a squad tent -- and I was back on my bulldozer next day.
The point I wish to make is too much time, money and talent is wasted in our Country's hospital emergency wards, most of which is the result of treating the poor and indigent for everything from minor injuries to major medical problems. The problems are the bureaucratic procedures and the legal requirement that every case, no matter how minor, must be treated by an MD.
I've described my emergency ward situation and how it compared with basically the same situation in the military examples. Massive, unnecessary waste!
There is a great deal of educated talent going to waste in the form of nurse practicioners, ex-military medics and trained EMTs who quite competently could handle a significant percentage of emergency room cases, most of which are relatively minor complaints. I believe that appropriately situated walk-in medical centers, open to the poor and indigent, including the illegal populations, would take the pressure off hospital emergency wards and dramatically reduce the overall cost of public health care. And the bottom line argument in favor of such a program is if that level of treatment is good enough for military personnel it certainly is good enough for the poor and indigent.
Some time ago I pulled a hangnail and developed an painful infection on a Friday evening. It was too late to call my GP so I went to a hospital emergency ward. To shorten the long story I spent four hours there which included a long clerical interview and about two hours lying in a ward bed, fully dressed but covered with a sheet. A tired intern, who seemed bored and annoyed by my relatively minor complaint, insisted on surgically opening the infection in spite of my request for an antibiotic prescription. The bottom line was a stinging incision, a half-hour soak in Betadyne, a huge bandage and two days inconvenience during healing.
None of the above was necessary. I'd had the same infection twice before, once in the military and once during my GP's normal office hours. Both times I was given penicillin tablets. Both times the infection receded within minutes and was gone within hours. But the bottom line in this emergency ward situation was my insurance provider was billed over six hundred dollars (for "surgery") and I was hit with a $175 co-pay.
When I had the same infection while in the Marine Corps I walked over to Sick Bay, a Navy Medical Corpsman looked at the finger and gave me a little box of penicillin tablets. The whole thing took about ten minutes and the infection was gone within a few hours.
Another time, while on field maneuvers in the Philippines, I developed a huge boil on an inner thigh that was painfully disabling. A Navy Corpsman, who appeared to be no older than I, gave me a shot of novocaine, a penicillin shot, he lanced the boil, put a drain in it, dressed it and gave me a little box of penicillin tablets. All this took about half an hour and was done in a squad tent -- and I was back on my bulldozer next day.
The point I wish to make is too much time, money and talent is wasted in our Country's hospital emergency wards, most of which is the result of treating the poor and indigent for everything from minor injuries to major medical problems. The problems are the bureaucratic procedures and the legal requirement that every case, no matter how minor, must be treated by an MD.
I've described my emergency ward situation and how it compared with basically the same situation in the military examples. Massive, unnecessary waste!
There is a great deal of educated talent going to waste in the form of nurse practicioners, ex-military medics and trained EMTs who quite competently could handle a significant percentage of emergency room cases, most of which are relatively minor complaints. I believe that appropriately situated walk-in medical centers, open to the poor and indigent, including the illegal populations, would take the pressure off hospital emergency wards and dramatically reduce the overall cost of public health care. And the bottom line argument in favor of such a program is if that level of treatment is good enough for military personnel it certainly is good enough for the poor and indigent.
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The ignorance is on your part.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE]YouTube - Obama on single payer health insurance[/ame]
Obama has ALWAYS been a proponent of a single payer system, AND he has always maintained that we would have to get there by taking small steps until we are there. This Bill is one such step.
See this what I don't understand, you idiots either just don't know what Obama is about, or you just don't care to admit it because you know it flies in the face of what most Americans want. Honestly I think it's a mix, I think that most who support Obama and his plans are just stupid people who don't even know what is they are supporting. I think some are people who know exactly what they are supporting and they know that it flies in the face of democracy and so they try to hide the real truth.
Your man is a socialist, you're either
A) An idiot if you don't acknowledge that fact
or
B) A liar for not acknowledging that fact
There is no option C.
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Then you don't enroll in the public option. That's what makes it an OPTION.
How would that solve the problem? You would have still needed to wait because actual emergencies take priority, and the doctors would have still needed to perform the full standard of care. Removing poor people doesn't mean doctors change how they practice medicine. Tort reform does that. Regardless what we have is the "expert" medical opinion of a lay person as to whether an incision was necessary or not. Sorry to say, but I don't believe your experience seeing something mildly similar twice before compares to an ER doctor.
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Tell that to the woman who two weeks or so ago went to a local hospital to have her baby and was sent home and had her baby in the cab. She was denied.
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I hope she gave the cab driver a tip. I doubt she cleaned up after herself.
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hilarious coming from confabulatinghog
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Can you name a single industrialized country that is less socialist than the US??
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russia in the 90's
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bigrebnc1775
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Just like a hammer dead on the head of a nail
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Everybody is more socialist then America.
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faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat finger
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And!!!!
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then some!!!
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