What is worse, Cuba's government or Hungary's government?

To my knowledge the government in Hungary is popularly elected

Judges are not

Orban has methodically changed Hungary from a democracy to an autocracy. It's not even subtle.
 
Supermarkets in Hungary,

List of supermarket chains in Hungary​

Aldi[edit]​


Aldi store entrance
Fürdő utca 31.Petőfi Sándor utca 80.
Kandó Kálmán u. 2.Malomkő u. 3.
II., Pasaréti út 98.III., Huszti út 33.III., Rákóczi út 38.IV., Óceánárok u. 3-5.V., Kossuth Lajos u. 13.V., Báthory u. 8.VIII., Rákóczi út 65.IX., Tűzoltó u. 10-16.IX., Vámház körút 1-3.X., Kerepesi út 73.XI., Kondorosi út 7.XI., Soproni út 60.XI., Hunyadi János út 19.XI., Rétköz u. 10/b.XIII., Rokolya u. 1-13.XIII., Pannónia utca 59-63.XIII., Petneházy utca 12.XIV., Szugló u. 60-62.XV., Régi Fóti út 64.XV., Erdőkerülő u. 47.XV., Késmárk utca 10.XVI., Bökényföldi út 102.XVII., Pesti út 237/pXVII., Pesti út 2.XVIII., Cziffra György utca 7.XIX., Szalay u. 7-17.XIX., Hofherr Albert u. 38-40.XIX., Üllői út 280.XX., Köves út 9.XXI., II. Rákóczi F. út 154-170.XXI., Szent Imre tér 6-8.XXII., Háros u. 11.XXII., Nagytétényi út 145-147.XXIII., Haraszti út 32/b
Kishatár utca 9/AOzmán utca 1.Ötvenhatosok tere 5/b.Vincellér utca 5.
Eszperantó út 4.Kandó Kálmán tér 10.
Szauter Ferenc u. 3/CCsipkegyári út 11.Fehérvári út 5/AMalomszéki utca 11.
Árpád utca 31.Petőfi utca 56.
Izsáki út 69.Rákóczi út 13/A.Szt. István krt. 30.
Kiss Ernő utca 13/APesti út
Kállói út 16/CPazonyi út 40.Törzs utca 2.
Zsolnay Vilmos utca 48.Árnyas utca 25.Tüzér utca 5/A
Ágfalvi út 4/AGyőri út 45.
Kossuth Lajos sgt. 119.Katona József utca 89.
Holland fasor 1.Jancsár köz 1-3.Szt. Flórián krt. 11.
Demeter utca 2.Szent Gellért utca 49.
Dornyai Béla u. 5.Észak-keleti útgyűrű 6.

Lidl[edit]​


Lidl store entrance
III. Bécsi út 325-337.III. Huszti út 20.III. Szentendrei út 251.IV. Megyeri út 53.VI. Bajcsy-Zsilinszky út 61.VI. Király u. 112.VIII. Hungária körút 26.VIII. Leonardo da Vinci u. 23.VIII. Teleki tér 1.IX. Gubacsi út 34.IX. Lobogó u. 12.X. Ceglédi út 1-3.X. Maglódi út 17.X. Sibrik Miklós út 30.XI. Bartók Béla út 47.XIII. Béke tér 2-4.XIV. Mogyoródi út 23-29.XV. Erdőkerülő út 36.XV. Régi Fóti u. 1.XVI. János u. 196.XVI. Újszász u. 47/BXVII. Pesti út 2.XVII. Pesti út 237/HXVIII. Cziffra György u. 115.XVIII. Margó Tivadar u. 83.XVIII. Nagykorösi út 35.XVIII. Üllői út 379-381.XIX. Báthory u. 6.XXI. Ady Endre út 58.XXII. Nagytétényi út 216.XXIII. Ciklámen u. 3.XXIII. Haraszti út 34-36.
Derék utcaFaraktár utca 58.
Bánomi útDobogokői út
Jereváni utca 42.Mécs László utcaSzeszgyár utca 6.Tihanyi Árpád utca 9.
Bereczk Sándor u. 2.Előd vezér u. 3.Füredi út
Sopron utca 43.Tapolcai utca 45/A
Csermőkei út 207.Kiss Ernő utca 13/BPesti út 5.
Debreceni út 106/CPazonyi út 37/A
Lahti utca 45.Lázár Vilmos utca 10.Puskin tér 22.Siklósi út 52/A
Bánfalvi út 12.Lófuttató utca 4.
Makkosházi körút 21.Szabadkai út 1/C
Balatoni út 21.Farkasvermi útMártírok út 11.
Széchenyi körút 4/BDélibáb utca 4-6.
Kenyérvíz utca 2.Verseny utca 30.Zanati út
Győri út 31.Szent Borbála út 31.
Bolgár u. 1.Naszály utca 20.
Cholnoky Jenő u. 29/1.Észak Keleti útgyűrű 2.
Átkötő utca 3.Platán sor 6/A

Penny Market[edit]​


Penny Market store entrance
Temető Sor 1/1Berényi Út 14.
III. Huszti Út 36.III. Pacsirtamező U. 41-43.III. Pünkösdfürdő U. 52-54.IV. Baross Utca 6.IV. Külső Szilágyi Út 4.VI. Király Utca 82.VII. Garay Tér 20.VIII. József Krt. 45.VIII. Hős U. 9.VIII. Könyves K. Krt. 62-64.X. Kolozsvári Utca 55.X. Sibrik Miklós Út 23.XI. Rétköz U. 1.XIII. Véső Utca 11.XIII. Váci Út 9-15.XIII. Jász U. 105.XIV. Füredi Út 37.XV. Régi Fóti Út 66-68.XVII. Pesti Út 16-18.XVIII. Margó Tivadar U. 31.XVIII. Üllői Út 661.XIX. Ady E. Út 32-40.XX. Topánka U. 7.XXI. Kossuth Lajos U. 69.
Malomtószél 27.Kőrösi Út 38.
Péterfia U. 13-19.Külső Szoboszlói Út 1.Sámsoni Út 99.
Baracsi Út 5.Kenyérgyári U. 2.
Mátyás Király Út 139.II. Rákóczi Ferenc U. 96.
Bajcsy-Zsilinszky Út 133-135.Budai Út 24.
Tihanyi Árpád Út 89.Gerence Út 29-31.Szabadrév U. 20.
Kossuth Krt. 60.Kodály Zoltán Tér 8.Tordai U. 2.
Csapás Út 6.Frech Miklós U. 1.
Ilona U.1.Soltész Nagy Kálmán U. 40.Andrássy Utca 65.
Dózsa György Utca 160.Kalmár U. 8.
Család U. 35.László U. 10.Állomás Tér 6.
Zsolnay Vilmos U. 8.Pécsváradi Út 1.Megyeri Út 84.Siklósi Út 68/ASztárai Mihály Út 4.
Makkosházi Krt. 27.Víztorony Tér 3.Dorozsmai Út 52/A.
Széchenyi U. 104.Palotai Út 10.
Bolt Köz 2.Széchenyi István Krt. 137.
Gazdag Erzsi U. 12.Körmendi Út 42-48.Sárvár U. 1.
Ságvári Út 44.Győri Út 35.
Aulich Lajos Utca 1.Csillag U. 22.Dózsa György Tér 1.
Köztársaság Útja 51.Platán Sor 17/B.

Supermarkets[edit]​


NameStores
Auchan5
CBA (Príma)141
Coop (Coop Szuper, Coop C+C)423
Spar (Spar, City Spar, Spar Partner, Spar Express)377
Tesco (Expressz, Szupermarket, S-Market)93

Regional and local chains[edit]​

NameStores
CBA2359
Coop5057
Reál2310
Privát100+

Specialty chains[edit]​

Consumer electronics[edit]​



Cuban communist owned food stores Cuba
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Orban has methodically changed Hungary from a democracy to an autocracy. It's not even subtle.
He’s tough on judges

Something the left has not been favorable of in America

Though their attitude on that is subject to change with the new consrrvative supreme court
 
Hungary is not the problem of Hungary. The problem of Hungary is Orban. And as well the governments of Poland and Hungary have the problem that they are members of the EU but do not like to accept the independence of judges.

And what is going on in Cuba I have absolutelly not any concrete idea about. They have nice old cars there I heard. And the terrible concentration camp Guantanamo is in Cuba, isn't it? But that's a serios problem of the USA.
I think the communist government in Cuba has not worked for the people. I agree with your assessment of Hungary and Poland. When Americans see that as a preferrable form of government, that is concerning. Trump loves Orban. He would prefer his authority as President. Trump tried to over ride the checks and balances of the executive branch.
 
Why do so many people criticize Mr. O (and implicitly the Hungarian people)?

Yes, I know next to nothing about Hungary.

But I hear tell that Mr. O. is just saying something like: "If countries like the United States, England, France, Sweden, etc., want to embrace multiculturalism, that's fine with us. But we Hungarians feel that a homogeneous society is more congenial. In other words, we prefer to be the Japan of Europe. Please let us live in peace."
His words do not bother you.
 
Lefties seemed to admire the crooked Ukraine regime but they dislike the relatively friendly government of Hungary. What gives? I guess it beats talking about the mess the Biden administration is in over Taiwan.
 
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Lefties seemed to admire the crooked Ukraine regime but they dislike the relatively friendly government of Hungary. What gives? I guess it beats talking about the mess the Biden administration is in over Taiwan.

Viktor Orban is dangerous. Texans better wake up. What the hell are you going to do about all the brown skinned, mixed race, non Protestants in Texas?
 
Cuba's government is by far worse than Hungary's government. You see Cuban refugees rafting across the Florida Straits in large numbers but not so with Hungarians they seem to be happy where they are
 
What is worse, Cuba's government or Hungary's government? Cuba is as close as you can get to pure Communism in the real world. Hungary is an authoritarian, close to a dictatorship, with goals of purity of races. Orban said, "we do not want to become peoples of mixed race." Who does that sound like?
We do not want Communism for obvious reasons but the far right is embracing Orban and his Hungarian government. This is a threat to democratic union. It has to be stopped.


Interesting.

Communism IS authoritarian by design and in practice so they if your description of Hungary is correct they are similar at least in one respect.

Cuba however is clearly worse being as close as you can get to pure communism it is a shit hole
 
I think the communist government in Cuba has not worked for the people. I agree with your assessment of Hungary and Poland. When Americans see that as a preferrable form of government, that is concerning. Trump loves Orban. He would prefer his authority as President. Trump tried to over ride the checks and balances of the executive branch.

Do you think Trump actually knows what Orban is about or just caught up in the moment?
 
He’s tough on judges

Something the left has not been favorable of in America

Though their attitude on that is subject to change with the new consrrvative supreme court
Move to Hungary Mac- we do not want Hungary here. You belong in Hungary, Russia or North Korea. The USA is far to good for you
 
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Interesting.

Communism IS authoritarian by design and in practice so they if your description of Hungary is correct they are similar at least in one respect.

Cuba however is clearly worse being as close as you can get to pure communism it is a shit hole
The US needs neither form of authoritarianism. Stop all people pushing either.
 
The US needs neither form of authoritarianism. Stop all people pushing either.

Hungary was Communist until 1989. They've really been through some ugly bloodletting.

 
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To my knowledge the government in Hungary is popularly elected

Judges are not

Are you mad? Independent judges are a base for every democratic system where elections make any sense at all. A system which starts to eliminate an independent system of justice will land in a tyranny where nobody will have any right to vote for anything else than the will of a leading tyrant.
 
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Do you think Trump actually knows what Orban is about or just caught up in the moment?
Trump knows authoritarianism. He has shined on authoritarian leaders; Putin, Kim Jong Un and shied away from democratic western countries.
No. Does courage bother you?
You must think Hitler was a very courageous human.
 
His words do not bother you.
I do not know any of his words other than those related to ethnicity.

I have read that he believes Hungary is a happier country if everyone remains a Caucasian and a Christian.

He does not hate anyone.

He does NOT say that other countries should follow Hungary's example (or Japan's example, either).

Israel, for example, also believes that the nation's survival depends on remaining a Jewish nation. It harbors no "dislike" for other groups.


So, NO: his words with which I am familiar do not "bother" me.
 
Trump knows authoritarianism. He has shined on authoritarian leaders; Putin, Kim Jong Un and shied away from democratic western countries.

You must think Hitler was a very courageous human.

Trump embraces Viktor Orban and Putin. Hungary is an autocracy.

 
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