What is the purpose behind the clock hoax?

[charwin95]

Bullshit.

>> Family and close friends say the gifted ninth-grader gets his drive and enterprise from his dad, a local imam and respected Muslim leader in his hometown of Irving, Texas.

And they revealed to Daily Mail Online the remarkable rags to riches story that saw Mohamed leave his impoverished village three decades ago and head to the US with little more than a passport.

Since then he's built up several businesses, had seven children and even traveled back to his native Sudan to bravely challenge its feared dictator Omar al-Bashir for the presidency.

He's also stood up against Islam-loathing Christian pastor Terry Jones while facing criticism from hardline members of his own faith who attack his moderate Sufi beliefs.


... Mohamed still runs a handful of businesses, including a solar energy company in his native Sudan, while mentoring local college kids and serving as president of the AlSufi Center in Irving. << -- Daily Mail
​

Now what were you saying, Dumbass?

What a gullible idiot you are....
The father is an agitator just like your messiah.

You don't even have a clue what the fuck "Sufi" means do ya, Brainless? No, I didn't think so.

Btw I don't have a fucking "messiah". That's for fucking authoritarian-passives.

Ahmeds old man is a fucken agitator....deal with it.

Are you so stupid you think, what, that "Sufi" is the opposite of "agitator"?
Really, can you be that fucking stupid? Is it within human capacity?

Are you so stupid as to think that the father has run for the presidency of Sudan twice and there's no political aspirations here?
Do you actually think the slamming of Shira law by Irving had nothing to do with this?
What a fucken dolt....

Your getting fuck all over the place. That hurt eh!!! Muslim lover. Where is your Koran?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

What a gullible idiot you are....
The father is an agitator just like your messiah.

You don't even have a clue what the fuck "Sufi" means do ya, Brainless? No, I didn't think so.

Btw I don't have a fucking "messiah". That's for fucking authoritarian-passives.

Ahmeds old man is a fucken agitator....deal with it.

Are you so stupid you think, what, that "Sufi" is the opposite of "agitator"?
Really, can you be that fucking stupid? Is it within human capacity?

Are you so stupid as to think that the father has run for the presidency of Sudan twice and there's no political aspirations here?
Do you actually think the slamming of Shira law by Irving had nothing to do with this?
What a fucken dolt....

Your getting fuck all over the place. That hurt eh!!! Muslim lover. Where is your Koran?

Get back with me when you've mastered english....Hadji.

 

[tinydancer]

So the clock was actually built by a subsidiary of Radio Shack. Micronta.

 

[candycorn]

So you guys are under the impression that the whole thing was contrived to make conservatives in this nation look like narrow minded bigots who know nothing but hate except where it comes to guns and possibly pulling wings off of flies?

Really....

I don't think you guys need any help making you look intolerant.

 

[jon_berzerk]

"So this raises a sticky question. The media may simply accept out of hand the notion that Ahmed "invented a clock," but if he really didn't, then who put this together and what was the point of doing so? It's possible, of course, that Ahmed threw this together, took it to school to show his teacher and misused the term "invented" in the course of explaining what he did.

Talbot's theory, though, is that someone else put it together and its purpose was to inspire the very reaction it got - presumably to provoke an incident that would forward the narrative that America is full of Islamophobic bigots - a storyline you can advance very easily when your supposed victim is an innocent 14-year-old. It didn't take long for the White House to get on board, or for the entire Internet to embrace the dopey #IStandWithAhmed hashtag.

Let's be honest here, shall we? It looks like a bomb. Any teacher who looked at it and didn't get concerned would have been derelict in his or her duty. A mischief maker, knowing full well that the contraption looked like a bomb, could easily envision an overreaction that could be used to score propaganda points."

http://www.caintv.com/guy-on-youtube-makes-pretty-co

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEmSwJTqpgY&feature=player_embedded


An engineer looked closely at the clock. He said there was no assembly, no modification and nothing other than the original manufacturer's parts in the exact state they were made in.

He simply removed a clock from it's casing and arranged it in a certain way in the case. Why would he be proud of something he didn't do? He didn't connect a single wire or attach anything new. It was simply a transfer of the clock parts from the original casing to a small briefcase-shaped pencil case. No invention. No creativity. Nothing.

Why does the media and Obama act like the kid actually put a clock together when, according to this engineer, everything is exactly as it was when it came from the factory, other than the outter case being removed? I still think his parents might have encouraged this and I believe it's just a way to use a willing press to further divide people by accusing the country of being Islamophobic. The only 'creation' here is on part of the Obama administion and CAIR, who have invented yet another problem that they will address. It further divides people and Muslims will make more demands because they want this country to change for them. CAIR is a questionable organization at best and I find it scary that they have so much influence over the current regime in Washington. Obama jumps in some cases pretty fast, like this one, while other things go without comment until he supposedly sees it on the news like the rest of us. Must have gotten a phone call on this one.

Also suspicious is a phone call between Mark Cuban and Ahmed. Sounds like the kid is smart and was "engaged" when the conversation centered around science, but when asked what happened regarding the suitcase clock, Ahmed's sister was telling him what to say. I think the kid is following instructions from his family, including taking the clock to school in the first place. He didn't just take it to show his science teacher. He showed it to each and every teacher. Again, why would such a smart kid be so proud of something he didn't even create? I think he could build a clock from parts, but he didn't do that this time.

CAIR is treating this like a major incident. While cuffing the kid was out of line, the kid did break the insane zero tolerance rules and some kind of action was warranted. There have been people saying that Ahmed worried people would think it was a bomb and I think his parents knew that, too. Why would they allow this non-invention to be taken to school unless they knew it would be flagged due to the zero tolerance rules and they knew that it could be used to the advantage of radical groups like CAIR? Amned is now the poster child for Islamophobia and all the other 'victims' of zero tolerance continue to be ignored. All kids will continue to get treated like some kind of criminals as long as the zero common sense rules are in place.



"Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban stated that when he talked on the phone Ahmed Mohamed, his sister was "giving him the answer" on Friday’s broadcast of HBO’s "Real Time."

Cuban said, "I talked to the kid, he’s from Dallas, and I’ve talked to the people in the school district. The kid is super smart kid, science geek. We talked about science, but while I’m talking to him on the phone, as I ask him a question, ‘Tell me what happened,’ because I’m curious, right? His sister, over his shoulder, you could hear, listening to the question, giving him the answer. So, I don’t know all the details of what happened, but what I do know, when I talked to him about science, when I talked to him about magnets, when I talked to him about creating things, he was very, very engaged.""

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/18/cuban-ahmed-mohameds-sister-was-giving-him-the-answer-when-i-talked-to-him/




Love him or hate him, Richard Dawkins is one of the most famous names in science.

"The British biologist, well-known for his hardline stance against religion and strong support for atheism and the theory of evolution, is no stranger to controversy.

On Sunday, Dawkins again found himself in a heated debate on social media. This time, however, it had little to do with biology or God, but instead concerned a 14-year-old ‘clock kid’ that seems to have become a household name nearly overnight.


Dawkins' post reads:

"This man seems to know what he's talking about. If he's right, Ahmed didn't

build a clock. He simply took one out of its casing.

Did he deliberately want to be suspected of making a bomb? Did he want to be

arrested, to be seen as a victim of "Islamophobia"? If so, Texas police played


right into his hands and most of us (including me) fell for it.""

We’ve All Been ‘Fooled’: Richard Dawkins Peeks Inside Ahmed’s Clock & Finds a ‘Hoax’

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/09/425460-scientist-richard-dawkins-drops-twitter-bomb-ahmeds-clock-says-weve-fooled/?author=pl&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign=life&utm_term=ijamerica

the administration has been full of these little tricks to try and sway folks

fast n furious

the epa Gold King Mine spill


the rancher terrorist

and maybe the muslim clock

 

[jon_berzerk]

So the clock was actually built by a subsidiary of Radio Shack. Micronta.

pretty much

however the leftist sheeple will eat it up

 

[jon_berzerk]

"So this raises a sticky question. The media may simply accept out of hand the notion that Ahmed "invented a clock," but if he really didn't, then who put this together and what was the point of doing so? It's possible, of course, that Ahmed threw this together, took it to school to show his teacher and misused the term "invented" in the course of explaining what he did.

Talbot's theory, though, is that someone else put it together and its purpose was to inspire the very reaction it got - presumably to provoke an incident that would forward the narrative that America is full of Islamophobic bigots - a storyline you can advance very easily when your supposed victim is an innocent 14-year-old. It didn't take long for the White House to get on board, or for the entire Internet to embrace the dopey #IStandWithAhmed hashtag.

Let's be honest here, shall we? It looks like a bomb. Any teacher who looked at it and didn't get concerned would have been derelict in his or her duty. A mischief maker, knowing full well that the contraption looked like a bomb, could easily envision an overreaction that could be used to score propaganda points."

http://www.caintv.com/guy-on-youtube-makes-pretty-co

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEmSwJTqpgY&feature=player_embedded


An engineer looked closely at the clock. He said there was no assembly, no modification and nothing other than the original manufacturer's parts in the exact state they were made in.

He simply removed a clock from it's casing and arranged it in a certain way in the case. Why would he be proud of something he didn't do? He didn't connect a single wire or attach anything new. It was simply a transfer of the clock parts from the original casing to a small briefcase-shaped pencil case. No invention. No creativity. Nothing.

Why does the media and Obama act like the kid actually put a clock together when, according to this engineer, everything is exactly as it was when it came from the factory, other than the outter case being removed? I still think his parents might have encouraged this and I believe it's just a way to use a willing press to further divide people by accusing the country of being Islamophobic. The only 'creation' here is on part of the Obama administion and CAIR, who have invented yet another problem that they will address. It further divides people and Muslims will make more demands because they want this country to change for them. CAIR is a questionable organization at best and I find it scary that they have so much influence over the current regime in Washington. Obama jumps in some cases pretty fast, like this one, while other things go without comment until he supposedly sees it on the news like the rest of us. Must have gotten a phone call on this one.

Also suspicious is a phone call between Mark Cuban and Ahmed. Sounds like the kid is smart and was "engaged" when the conversation centered around science, but when asked what happened regarding the suitcase clock, Ahmed's sister was telling him what to say. I think the kid is following instructions from his family, including taking the clock to school in the first place. He didn't just take it to show his science teacher. He showed it to each and every teacher. Again, why would such a smart kid be so proud of something he didn't even create? I think he could build a clock from parts, but he didn't do that this time.

CAIR is treating this like a major incident. While cuffing the kid was out of line, the kid did break the insane zero tolerance rules and some kind of action was warranted. There have been people saying that Ahmed worried people would think it was a bomb and I think his parents knew that, too. Why would they allow this non-invention to be taken to school unless they knew it would be flagged due to the zero tolerance rules and they knew that it could be used to the advantage of radical groups like CAIR? Amned is now the poster child for Islamophobia and all the other 'victims' of zero tolerance continue to be ignored. All kids will continue to get treated like some kind of criminals as long as the zero common sense rules are in place.



"Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban stated that when he talked on the phone Ahmed Mohamed, his sister was "giving him the answer" on Friday’s broadcast of HBO’s "Real Time."

Cuban said, "I talked to the kid, he’s from Dallas, and I’ve talked to the people in the school district. The kid is super smart kid, science geek. We talked about science, but while I’m talking to him on the phone, as I ask him a question, ‘Tell me what happened,’ because I’m curious, right? His sister, over his shoulder, you could hear, listening to the question, giving him the answer. So, I don’t know all the details of what happened, but what I do know, when I talked to him about science, when I talked to him about magnets, when I talked to him about creating things, he was very, very engaged.""

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/18/cuban-ahmed-mohameds-sister-was-giving-him-the-answer-when-i-talked-to-him/




Love him or hate him, Richard Dawkins is one of the most famous names in science.

"The British biologist, well-known for his hardline stance against religion and strong support for atheism and the theory of evolution, is no stranger to controversy.

On Sunday, Dawkins again found himself in a heated debate on social media. This time, however, it had little to do with biology or God, but instead concerned a 14-year-old ‘clock kid’ that seems to have become a household name nearly overnight.


Dawkins' post reads:

"This man seems to know what he's talking about. If he's right, Ahmed didn't

build a clock. He simply took one out of its casing.

Did he deliberately want to be suspected of making a bomb? Did he want to be

arrested, to be seen as a victim of "Islamophobia"? If so, Texas police played


right into his hands and most of us (including me) fell for it.""

We’ve All Been ‘Fooled’: Richard Dawkins Peeks Inside Ahmed’s Clock & Finds a ‘Hoax’

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/09/425460-scientist-richard-dawkins-drops-twitter-bomb-ahmeds-clock-says-weve-fooled/?author=pl&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign=life&utm_term=ijamerica

the administration has been full of these little tricks to try and sway folks

fast n furious

the epa Gold King Mine spill


the rancher terrorist

and maybe the muslim clock

and who can forget obama and hillary on the national tour

blaming a poorly made youtube

for the Benghazi terror attack

 

[Rotagilla]

If they found something like that in a public place...a federal building, an airport, a bus terminal or a train station they'd shut the whole place down until they figured out what it was...It's suspicious looking..
this is just more media and gvt. anti white psyops

 

[charwin95]

You don't even have a clue what the fuck "Sufi" means do ya, Brainless? No, I didn't think so.

Btw I don't have a fucking "messiah". That's for fucking authoritarian-passives.

Ahmeds old man is a fucken agitator....deal with it.

Are you so stupid you think, what, that "Sufi" is the opposite of "agitator"?
Really, can you be that fucking stupid? Is it within human capacity?

Are you so stupid as to think that the father has run for the presidency of Sudan twice and there's no political aspirations here?
Do you actually think the slamming of Shira law by Irving had nothing to do with this?
What a fucken dolt....

Your getting fuck all over the place. That hurt eh!!! Muslim lover. Where is your Koran?

Get back with me when you've mastered english....Hadji.

STFU fucktard Getting fuck all over with your racist bullshit. AAAAWWWW butthurt?

 

[irosie91]

If they found something like that in a public place...a federal building, an airport, a bus terminal or a train station they'd shut the whole place down until they figured out what it was...It's suspicious looking..
this is just more media and gvt. anti white psyops

finding it in a bus station is a WHOLE LOT different from a top notch student
carrying it in his hands

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Ahmeds old man is a fucken agitator....deal with it.

Are you so stupid you think, what, that "Sufi" is the opposite of "agitator"?
Really, can you be that fucking stupid? Is it within human capacity?

Are you so stupid as to think that the father has run for the presidency of Sudan twice and there's no political aspirations here?
Do you actually think the slamming of Shira law by Irving had nothing to do with this?
What a fucken dolt....

Your getting fuck all over the place. That hurt eh!!! Muslim lover. Where is your Koran?

Get back with me when you've mastered english....Hadji.

STFU fucktard Getting fuck all over with your racist bullshit. AAAAWWWW butthurt?

Have you considered prozac?

 

[irosie91]

Are you so stupid you think, what, that "Sufi" is the opposite of "agitator"?
Really, can you be that fucking stupid? Is it within human capacity?

Are you so stupid as to think that the father has run for the presidency of Sudan twice and there's no political aspirations here?
Do you actually think the slamming of Shira law by Irving had nothing to do with this?
What a fucken dolt....

Your getting fuck all over the place. That hurt eh!!! Muslim lover. Where is your Koran?

Get back with me when you've mastered english....Hadji.

STFU fucktard Getting fuck all over with your racist bullshit. AAAAWWWW butthurt?

Have you considered prozac?

Prozac is an anti-depressant-----not useful in psychosis------try QUITIAPINE

 

[mudwhistle]

"Invention" is clearly inaccurate, since clocks and digital clocks are nothing new.

The question of why it was presented as it was has been raised in the main thread on the story. Assuming his purpose was some kind of social commentary and not science, it would plausibly be a bait set to trap exactly the kind of Islamophobia it did trap, presumably for the purpose of exposing it for the fallacy it is.

At this point all we have is speculation but if that was his motive, it's pretty crafty -- he just leaves the rope sitting there and waits for public opinion to pick it up and hang itself. Gotta admit, if that's what he was after, it worked.

I doubt that the 14 year old conceived of the plan-------he, too, was a prop.
At the end of the day -----the real DUMBO is OBAMA I still do not
understand -----WHAT EXCUSE the kid has for coming up with the thing? what
was it SUPPOSED TO BE??? did it relate in any way to a school assignment?.
The cops are not to blame for anything in this case-----they acted
as they had to act The principal of the school acted correctly-----
if that family WINS a lawsuit------I will vomit in public

My first quest is why Obama got involved?
Possible reasons are:

1. He's a Muslim
2. He wants to pave the way for Syrian refugees by creating a backlash against islamaphobia
3. He set the whole thing up in the first place
4. He wanted to distract everyone from Hillary’s email story
5. He's a pandering asshole that wants to be involved in everything people are talking about
6. He doesn't have anything better to do with his time
7. Nothing Obama does makes any sense

 

[Wildman]

Don't make me embarrass you again because I'll do it

you do not have the ability to embarrass another jackass like yourself and party icon.