What is the fair market value of social order?

can you place a price on your liberty's and freedoms? I say hell no to much blood was split giving that right.
 
And what role do you think poverty plays in undermining social order?

That all depends on the safety net. ;)When times turn desperate, people are subject to bad temptation. Pain, Starvation, misery, index.

I don't want anybody to be poor.... I just don't believe you eliminate poverty by impoverishing people for life in a web of ill-conceived social programs that do nothing but beget more poverty and more social programs.

We are in total agreement.
 
Follow the Constitution, as it was written, not as it is being manipulated. We prospered just fine under it until 1912 when progressives decided it was time to create their own laws. More and more each day it seems like the only way to have social order the way the founders intended it is to ship all these communist/socialist/marxist,progressive bastards to france, where they belong.
 

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