2aguy
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We aren't talking about hilary, we are talking about the democrat party stealing the election in swing states they control........
What is the better strategy when losing elections?
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We aren't talking about hilary, we are talking about the democrat party stealing the election in swing states they control........
OK. Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Quincy Adams, Jackson (actually we're not sure about Jackson), van Buren, Harrison, Tyler, Polk, Taylor, Fillmore, Pierce, Buchanan, Lincoln, Johnson, Grant, Hayes, Garfield, Cleveland, Harrison, McKinley, Roosevelt, Taft, Wilson, Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush and O'bama. There's 44 of them right there.
*NONE* of them sulked in the White House spinning conspiracy theories because they ******* lost and couldn't handle it. *ALL* of them turned over the office with grace.
You see Sprinkles --- "Narcissist" actually has a specific meaning.
There is no such thing as "the democrat party". Perhaps you're an idiot.
Votto
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True, because they won the election, but then you have the 24/7 media blitz on Trump for 4 long years saying what a horrible human being he was along with academia, etc.
Then you had Big Tech censor all conservatives speech and hid the scandals in the Ukraine and China that involved Hunter Biden
So it's hard to say how much people bought the Russia lie.
There is a difference...
Voter Suppression is real and Democrats went to court and won a number of judgements on it... There is also glaring examples of suppression like putting one mail in dropbox for millions of people in harris county. We also saw the major lines in black areas. But this has been verified in court, sometimes the court could step in but very few judges threw out the evidence.
Russian interference
This has been confirmed by 13 National intelligence agencies and the GOP led Intelligence Senate committee. To ignore it now is to be pro Russia, the evidence of Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear is over whelming. Witnesses, computer trails,..... It is all there...
COMPARE TO
Voter Fraud
Trump is accusing massive voter fraud in numerous states some of them GOP run. When asked for evidence in court they have failed to provide any that hasn't been thrown out almost immediately.
On top of that I can only see one 'Verified Complaint' filed. That is in PA. That can cause some massive problems for the Trump legal team.
There is 15 points to the compliant...
They have to get witnesses and/or proof for all those allegations.. Not to do so is Perjury and DONALD J. TRUMP is the first name on the compliant... All the other complaints seem to be non verified, which means you can say what you like but you likely to get thrown out...
They have to prove this:
"Democratic-heavy counties engaged in pre-canvass activities prior to November 3, 2020, by reviewing received mail-in ballots for deficiencies, such as lacking the inner secrecy envelope or lacking a signature of the elector on the outer declaration envelope. Those offending Counties then would - 4 - notify those voters in order to allow them to cure their ballot deficiencies by voting provisionally on Election Day or cancelling their previously mailed ballot and issuing a replacement."
I mean real proof...
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Well, first validate the vote count for reasons of maintaining trust and the election integrity in the mind of the public.
Then go with the results,
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Why do you think Biden won when he has NOT won 270 EC?
Flopper
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In the military fighting a battle that is lost is foolish and is likely to result in condemnation from all sides. But and election is not a military battle, and Trump's fight is not likely to be condemned by his base. Trump is looking forward to what comes after he leaves office. Waging this battle may serve him well if he wants to stay politically active. He can use a PAC to fund candidates of his choosing and potentially pay for political travel and events he might want to do after leaving office or launch a 2024 presidential campaign. In addition to fundraising with an eye toward staying politically relevant after leaving office, he could try to launch himself back into the media world, either through a broadcasting deal with a news outlet or bringing investors together to start his own media company.
Trump TV might well find it's way to your TV set and Trump rallies to your city.
Trump's stubborn refusal to accept reality may seem foolhardy and a bit insane but it he plans to stay active politically, his fight to the bitter end is likely to appeal to his base and help him politically.
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Even if Trump, the Populist, lost, the GOP won. Hell, did you see how well the Conservative Position swept even the CA propositions?
THE LEFT’S UNCONVINCING ALIBI FOR THE DEFEAT OF PROP 16
Proposition 16 was rejected by the voters of California by a wide margin. Prop 16 was the left’s attempt to allow racial and other forms of discrimination by the State. Prop 16’s sponsors attribute the defeat to voter confusion. But Prop 16 didn’t lose because voters were confused. It lost because most people don’t favor a racial spoils system overseen by the Left. Not even in CA.
Prop 16’s sponsors tried to sell the snake oil of diversity and were ***** slapped by CA Libs who want the government to judge people by their character and their credentials, not by the color of their skin.
Gail Heriot, of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission:
The polls have been consistent for decades. Whenever the issue is stated fairly and clearly, opposition to race and sex preferences is overwhelming. For example, in 2003, 2006, 2013, and 2016, the Gallup has asked the following question of poll respondents:
“Which comes closer to your view about evaluating students for admission into college or university—applicants should be admitted solely on the basis of merit, even if that results in few minority students being admitted (or) an applicant’s racial or ethnic background should be considered to help promote diversity on college campuses, even if that means admitting some minority students who otherwise would not be admitted.”
The responses were consistent: The number of respondents choosing “solely on merit” is always at least twice as great as the number choosing “help promote diversity.” In 2016, it was 70% for “solely on merit” vs. 26% for considering racial or ethnic background.
Note that the question was posed so as to take account of the arguments on both sides. Respondents were alerted to the possibility that without considering race or ethnic background “few minority students” may be admitted. Note also that, if anything, the question is unfair to the “NO on 16” campaign, since most “NO” voters are willing to take into consideration things other than academic achievement (such as low income); they simply oppose using race or ethnicity as the measure of disadvantage.
When it comes to parties, the American People like to switch back and forth. So we had GOP, then Dem, then a Populist, probably time to try a GOP president, next time.
Nosmo King
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279 electoral votes and a popular vote lead of 5 million.
Knock yourself out.
Nosmo King
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If we must wait for Trump and his sycophants to recount every vote, I can wait to see what the FBI says about Russian interference in 2020,
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