What is driving this trade war?

[citygator]

He will “abandon” it. Tariffs are a means to an end. The ultimate outcome will be that the US will be in better shape. Inflation will not increase and we will be taking in more money that we currently do on exported goods and paying less on imports. Democrats are stupid, so they will claim that Trump caved, but of course, that was all part of the plan.

Democrats couldn’t negotiate a Facebook Marketplace deal.

Trump will, what? Get rid of tariffs and make imports even cheaper? Keep tariffs high and make imports more expensive? What is the desired outcome?

 

[citygator]

That’s the best you’ve got? lol.
I’m not the one crying over my inability to deal with tariffs on China and pretending I’m some business bigshot.

Dude. You do get people run business organizations and can’t just move factories with no notice? How exactly do you think shit gets made? You don’t have to be a big shot to connect those dots. The administration’s actions are reckless and nonsensical. If you’re a meter reader you probably don’t care…yet. You will when the impacts are apparent.

 

[Mac1958]

 

[Orangecat]

Dude. You do get people run business organizations and can’t just move factories with no notice? How exactly do you think shit gets made? You don’t have to be a big shot to connect those dots. The administration’s actions are reckless and nonsensical. If you’re a meter reader you probably don’t care…yet. You will when the impacts are apparent.

I assume you’re an adult male. Figure it out and stop whining like a bitch. Life is tough for everyone.

 

[citygator]

I assume you’re an adult male. Figure it out and stop whining like a bitch. Life is tough for everyone.

As a meter reader your impact is low. When you get some responsibility you will stop idolizing a fat orange guy that is stupid as fuck and start calling out incompetence.

 

[Orangecat]

As a meter reader your impact is low.

As a gaslighter, your guesses are incompetently insignificant. Much like your made-up lifestyle. Learn to use commas.

When you get some responsibility you will stop idolizing a fat orange guy that is stupid as fuck and start calling out incompetence.

I just did.

 

[krichton]

An important part of this, uh, "strategy" is that Trump is trying to forcibly build a global coalition to isolate China.

You would normally think that THE VERY LAST thing a normal person would do when they want to build a coalition would be to anger, insult, mock, threaten and punish THE VERY PEOPLE YOU NEED FOR THAT COALITION.

But that's just how far we've fallen. And the world sure as hell sees it now.

"Global coalition" by insulting, threatening and then tariffing the hell out of them first, LOL. ART OF THE DEAL

 

[krichton]

Your dear leader, in more ways than one.

Trump is a germaphone, so he's hating every moment of this,

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

I love it how you non-religious folks see yourselves as such experts on religion.

WTF?
You don't need to be an expert, to figure out Trump isn't GOD.
Just the opposite.

They weren’t praying to Trump.

YES, they were.

The laying of hands is often done for healing purposes or even for appointing leaders, like in the case below.

That didn't sound like any "Healing" sermon.
If it was?
It failed miserably.

Numbers 27:18 - So the LORD said to Moses, “Take Joshua son of Nun, a man in whom is the spirit of leadership, and lay your hand on him.

 

[Correll]

WTF?
You don't need to be an expert, to figure out Trump isn't GOD.
Just the opposite.

YES, they were.

That didn't sound like any "Healing" sermon.
If it was?
It failed miserably.

You are talking nonsense.

The more time you spend spewing negs, the more you admit that you have nothign real to say about policy or the reality of the issues.

 

[Mac-7]

You are talking nonsense.

The more time you spend spewing negs, the more you admit that you have nothign real to say about policy or the reality of the issues.

Exactly

What libs want is for trump to do nothing

 

[eagle1462010]

Exactly

What libs want is for trump to do nothing

Their purpose is to attack any agenda he has til they regain power. They dont care about the people, JUST POWER.

They divide to bring the country down so they can rule the ashes. Scumbag agenda.

 

[Mac1958]

"Global coalition" by insulting, threatening and then tariffing the hell out of them first, LOL. ART OF THE DEAL

It's all he's ever known. It's the only way he knows how to do things.

And if you don't agree with the WAY he wants to fix a problem, the rubes will say you don't want the problem fixed AT ALL.

It's a grade school mentality, and it permeates the GQP. Only now, the whole world sees it, and we're no longer trusted.

 

[Correll]

It's all he's ever known. It's the only way he knows how to do things.

And if you don't agree with the WAY he wants to fix a problem, the rubes will say you don't want the problem fixed AT ALL.

It's a grade school mentality, and it permeates the GQP. Only now, the whole world sees it, and we're no longer trusted.

EVERY lefty I have spoken to on this issue, is AGAINST THE VERY IDEA of trying to fix this problem.


THe divide over this issue is not HOW to fix the trade imbalance, but whether we should even try to or not.


That you are not being honest about the issue, is a good sign that your brain knows that you are on the wrong side.

 

[Mac1958]

EVERY lefty I have spoken to on this issue, is AGAINST THE VERY IDEA of trying to fix this problem.


THe divide over this issue is not HOW to fix the trade imbalance, but whether we should even try to or not.


That you are not being honest about the issue, is a good sign that your brain knows that you are on the wrong side.

But I want to optimize trade relations at all times. I've said that many times.

I've also posted my positions on the issues many times (it's even in my sig, second link down), demonstrating beyond a shadow of a doubt that I'm not a lefty.

A person is not a lefty simply because they're not in the cult. As you know, there are politicians and pundits and judges and others across the political spectrum who are horrified over what MAGA is doing to this country. You KNOW that.

You're dishonest. This is why I no longer bother with you people here. It's pointless.

 

[SweetTea]

Trump will, what? Get rid of tariffs and make imports even cheaper? Keep tariffs high and make imports more expensive? What is the desired outcome?

Tariffs have been in place for decades. Trump will abandon the across the board hike and work out deals with each country that will ultimately put the US in a better position. Yes, there will still be tariffs. The point of threatening to hike is to bring countries to the bargaining table. The reason they have all come to the table, except China currently, is because they know they stand too much to lose if they don’t. Despite what lefties in the US have been told and taught for years now, the US is the top dog in the world when it comes to consumers. There is no individual country that is a close second. Trump knows this, but Democrats evidently don’t. We have the ability the negotiate from a position of strength and that is what Trump is doing. China will ultimately come to the table as well because they can’t risk losing the US consumer to their competitors in other markets. We essentially built them and we can take them down. They know it, even if Democrats don’t.

 

[Correll]

But I want to optimize trade relations at all times. I've said that many times.

I don't recall you ever engaging me on this issue. So... your personal position is potentially different from the lefty mob.

Which is irrelevant to my point.

In teh contest of ideas, the discussion taking place is not HOW to fix the trade imbalance,

it is whether the trade imbalance SHOULD be fixed or not.


Trump and maga want to fix it, those that oppose him, OPPOSE fixing the trade imbalance.

That was my point. YOu did not address my point.

I've also posted my positions on the issues many times (it's even in my sig, second link down), demonstrating beyond a shadow of a doubt that I'm not a lefty.

Some rare lefties have... individual traits that do set them apart from the lefty mob.

This is ONLY relevant, if it can lead them to OPPOSE the mob, on some issues.

As it has with Bill Maher.

But, he is still a lefty. It would be unfair to NOT call him a lefty. It would be untrue, to call him anything else.

A person is not a lefty simply because they're not in the cult.

This is you being rude and offensive, pretending that that is my bar for defining someone as a lefty. Very rude and offensive.

As you know, there are politicians and pundits and judges and others across the political spectrum who are horrified over what MAGA is doing to this country. You KNOW that.

Sure. Free Traders are a fine example, i have discussed often, and I never called them lefties. Becasue they are not lefties.

They are ideologicaly on the RIGHT, but simply disagree with us on this issue and thus not aligned with maga politically.

This pretense you have, that I, or really very many people at all, have any confusion about this, is stupid.

You're dishonest. This is why I no longer bother with you people here. It's pointless.

I'm completely honest. YOU are the one playing games and being insulting.

 

[citygator]

Tariffs have been in place for decades. Trump will abandon the across the board hike and work out deals with each country that will ultimately put the US in a better position. Yes, there will still be tariffs. The point of threatening to hike is to bring countries to the bargaining table. The reason they have all come to the table, except China currently, is because they know they stand too much to lose if they don’t. Despite what lefties in the US have been told and taught for years now, the US is the top dog in the world when it comes to consumers. There is no individual country that is a close second. Trump knows this, but Democrats evidently don’t. We have the ability the negotiate from a position of strength and that is what Trump is doing. China will ultimately come to the table as well because they can’t risk losing the US consumer to their competitors in other markets. We essentially built them and we can take them down. They know it, even if Democrats don’t.

You didnt answer the question I posted. What outcome are we looking for? Lower tariffs? Or higher Tariffs?

 

[SweetTea]

You didnt answer the question I posted. What outcome are we looking for? Lower tariffs? Or higher Tariffs?

Net lower.

 

[cnm]

Didnt say EVERY COUNTRY now did I?

Yet every country in the world except the communist autocracies have at least 10% tariff. According to Chump that's because they've been screwing the US forever.

Do you agree with him there?