What is Christian Nationalism and is it a threat?

[Leo123]

Communism / Marxism / Socialism is a Major Threat to the World

Yes and no difference twixt the two.

 

[Failzero]

Yes and no difference twixt the two.

Nationalism is America First not Racis

 

[Leo123]

Nationalism is America First not Racis

I was talking about Communism and Marxism. Also fascism. There really is no difference between them. I have no problem with American Nationalism. "White' has nothing to do with it, unless one is racist.

 

[Failzero]

I was talking about Communism and Marxism. Also fascism. There really is no difference between them. I have no problem with American Nationalism. "White' has nothing to do with it, unless one is racist.

What if they are Black Nationalist or old school La Raza Brown Nationalists

 

[Leo123]

What if they are Black Nationalist or old school La Raza Brown Nationalists

I don’t label American Nationalists by their race, creed or skin color.

 

[Failzero]

I don’t label American Nationalists by their race, creed or skin color.

I did not say American

 

[surada]

Hitler ( Socialist ) Franco / El Duce ( Fascist )

Hitler hated socialists. He put them in Dachau in 1933.

 

[Failzero]

Hitler hated socialists. He put them in Dachau in 1933.

He hated Marxist Socialists , he did Socialism his way

 

[surada]

He hated Marxist Socialists , he did Socialism his way

In 1926 Hitler broke with the socialists. In 1933 he used the Enabling Act to purge the German government of Socialists, Communists, Jews and Democrats.

 

[Failzero]

In 1926 Hitler broke with the socialists. In 1933 he used the Enabling Act to purge the German government of Socialists, Communists, Jews and Democrats.

Communist Marxist Socialists , after he decimated the Brownshirts he went all in on his own brand of Socialism

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Liberal Christians aren't actually Christian

Your white Christian nationalist attack for Don Saint_Billiejeens on America’s extraordinarily spiritual Black Christian Community is revolting and downright evil.

Christians Against Christian Nationalism

We believe that Christian nationalism threatens our faith and our country. Join us and stand up to Christian nationalism: read and sign the statement.

www.christiansagainstchristiannationalism.org

They are talking about you.

i. Proof in writing that this country was not founded on any religion. 240523. {post•85}. NotfooledbyW May’24 Vpiwtt: Rated…in order from ..benign to destructive toward the institution of democracy

1. nationalism

2. white Christian nationalism

3. White Nationslism

Trump is all three.

Trump appeals to all three but his political existence and strength is entirely dependent on culture war, patriotic, working class voters obsessed in groupthink 2.

Unchurched Republicans desperately need groupthink 2 so they placate and defend the male dominance, the sexual aversions and the rejection of objective facts based reality or abandonment of truth/based material assessment of what is going on in the public square within the limits of groupthink 2.

nfbw 240523 Vpiwtt00085

 

[initforme]

What is a threat to me? Any sect who believes their way is the way I should live as an american citizen. Yes I'm a Christian. But I shall not live my life according to what atheists, Christian nationalists, or any other group decides.

 

[Mac1958]

If it's simple (honest) Christianity and a humble pride for their country, it's not a threat at all.

If it's leveraged to create a strongman-based authoritarian pseudo-theocracy, that is a threat.

So, it depends on the goals. We can't ask, because the response may be a lie. So we can only go by actions and pronouncements.

This pronouncement, for example, could be perceived as a threat by a reasonable American:

 

[surada]

MSN

Christian Nationalism Report

Neighborly Faith is a national movement of Christian students leading change across faiths. We believe that we can be gospel-centered while making America more welcoming to all.

www.neighborlyfaith.org

Ever since the tragic events of Jan. 6, 2021, in which a handful of the violent rioters donned explicitly Christian symbols, much ink has been spilled about the rising threat of Christian nationalism, which critics charge is a malignant anti-democratic force hellbent on overthrowing American democracy.

Fears of Christian nationalism have spawned a burgeoning subgenre of books, conferences and journal articles. One widely cited survey, which included sloppily expansive definitions, found that a whopping 51% of Americans were Christian nationalists.

And the new documentary "God & Country," scheduled for release Friday and produced by Hollywood mogul Rob Reiner, warns in ominous tones about the nationalists lurking around every corner.

Still, the term itself has been employed to incorporate seemingly any Christian engagement in the public square. Even Michael Wear, former faith outreach coordinator for President Barack Obama, has shared his concerns about the way "Christian nationalism" is used in an overly expansive way.

Andrew Walker, a Baptist scholar, rightly pleads: “Convince me that your skepticism about Christian nationalism isn’t just a cover for wanting Christians out of politics and out of power. Convince me that Christian nationalism is not just another progressive epithet hurled against conservative Christians.”

To address the lack of definition of what constitutes Christian nationalism, one group has released a survey that both dispels some of the hyperbole and gives a more nuanced picture. The group, Neighborly Faith, began with a 14-point definition of Christian nationalism. What the researchers found is that the number of actual Christian nationalists is much smaller than we’ve been led to believe: Only 5% of Americans self-identify as Christian nationalists, and only 11% of Americans fit the category of “adherents.”

But others come up with a lesser definition of what is a CN, or Christian Nationalist, reducing it to 6 questions.

Here is one such test.

1. The federal government should declare the United States as a Christian nation.
2. The federal government should advocate Christian values.
3. The federal government should enforce strict separation of church and state.
4. The federal government should allow the display of religious symbols in public spaces.
5. The success of the United States is part of God’s plan.
6. The federal government should allow prayer in public schools.

I don't understand how #1 and #3 can coexist in this poll. How can one declare the US a Christian nation and believe that there should be a separation of church and state. Even polls don't make sense with all this hysteria.

But let's say CN is the majority. Would it then only be democratic to embrace it as a nation? Would those who favor it only be practicing democracy? If so, then those that oppose it would be opposing democracy. The Left would have us think that as long as democracy is at work, it is right, it is just, it is fair, unless, of course, they don't like the result. LOL.

If CN is not really in the majority, if they are in the minority, how should the majority safely control them so that they never become the majority and their influence is curbed so as not to effect the majority so that our society is more diverse? Of course, this type of thinking is also contradictory. How can you embrace diversity while targeting any particular minority group within society as being the enemy to limit their input into society and/or destroy them?

But I think the biggest fear is, not that CN is in the majority, the biggest fear is that they are in the minority and wish to take over the government because they are in the minority. People really believe that on 1/6 the United States was almost taken over by CN and all they need to do next time is complete the job, whatever you may think that entails. How could the Viking and unarmed woman who was shot dead take over the government for CN and end democracy for all time? How could they succeed in the future?

Anyone?

Since they are in the minority, I would assume they would have to raise an army to fight off the majority, or does anyone here think that the minority could take over the majority without a shot fired? I do see how the Federal government is run by an ivory tower of elites who are in the minority, that is, they don't really seem to represent the majority, so I guess this fear is somewhat grounded in the reality of what we have today, but this is usually accomplished with great wealth and corruption instead of an army.

So if CN is such a threat, I would think we would have to look at two possible ways they could wield their evil power and influence.

CN would either have to raise an army to take over the country, or use their wealth and influence to sway elected officials in order to take over the country with an oligarchy of elitists who run it like we have now. Therefore, the burden of showing their threat would be to show their wealth and or military capacity, neither of which they have. Show me there wealth or military might to show they are a threat. If not, then they are just another minority within society that the majority likes to beat up to make themselves feel superior and to make themselves feel protected.

Look at the nationalist movements in the 20th century...

Nazism, Zionism, Black Nationalism.... We had Mussolini, Franco..

Trump says he's a nationalist and he was president of an exclusive group, not of all Americans.

 

[surada]

"my kingdom is not of this world" christ

not every christian is ready to join up with general flynn to throw creation deniers from helicopters. are you?

Nationalism is reactionary... usually not rational. Look how Hitler incited the mob.. It's usually an opening for a demagogue to gain power

Look at Farrakhan and his crackpot Nation of Islam

 

[2aguy]

In 1926 Hitler broke with the socialists. In 1933 he used the Enabling Act to purge the German government of Socialists, Communists, Jews and Democrats.

He purged the Russian supported socialists….hitler was a German socialist

 

[2aguy]

Nationalism is reactionary... usually not rational. Look how Hitler incited the mob.. It's usually an opening for a demagogue to gain power

Look at Farrakhan and his crackpot Nation of Islam

Socialism is the state controlling the means of production either with direct control or through control of the people in charge of the businesses.

Louis Farrakhan is a good friend of barak Obama and the rest of the black democrat party leadership

 

[Failzero]

American Nationalism has Jooos and Athiests in its ranks

 

[sartre play]

basically christians are happier more productive people than non christian libturds..................they hate they are so miserable

And you know this HOW? Wishful thinking!

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]