What if we are alone in Milky Way ?

[ReinyDays]

Linus Pauling? The vitamin C guy?

His textbook on Chemical Bonding under QM is still in print ... like I said, for a 100 years now ... and with this information, he went on to discover the Alpha helix in proteins ...

his is about magical "free" energy that no one has ever seen before ... and what, "Deep State" at NASA is suppressing this information? ... sounds like fraud to me ... way to go Gandalf Greyteeth, way to go ...

Power is "joules per second" ... no joules, no power ... and you want Mega-newtons out of van der Waals force ... farcical ...

 

[Quasar44]

The issue is Einstein ... he might actually be right ... the speed of light is as fast as anything can go ... bar none ... it will take well over 2 million years to reach the Andromeda Galaxy ... ten times longer than humans have existed ...

Even if Einstein's wrong ... the energy needed to accelerate, then decelerate ... and then accelerate/decelerate back home ... is enough energy to power all human civilization for the entire 4 million years it would take ...

Plus we forget the lessons of H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds ... humans didn't destroy the Martian invasion ... bacteria did ...

Yes energy is going to be that of a star !!

The time through is very short due to relativity

 

[Quasar44]

The issue is Einstein ... he might actually be right ... the speed of light is as fast as anything can go ... bar none ... it will take well over 2 million years to reach the Andromeda Galaxy ... ten times longer than humans have existed ...

Even if Einstein's wrong ... the energy needed to accelerate, then decelerate ... and then accelerate/decelerate back home ... is enough energy to power all human civilization for the entire 4 million years it would take ...

Plus we forget the lessons of H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds ... humans didn't destroy the Martian invasion ... bacteria did ...

The experts say it only 10,000 years!!! Humans will be all over the Milky Way on vast Star Systems

 

[Quasar44]

lol

Linus Pauling? The vitamin C guy?

No. Van der Waals forces are caused by correlations in quantum polarization.

Here, read some more:

Van der Waals force - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah, I suppose you could say quantum fluctuations represent "fuel", in an abstract roundabout kind of way. But they're not a consumable like lox or iodine.

Dark Forest hypotheses states Alien civilizations remain hidden for their own survival

 

[ReinyDays]

The experts say it only 10,000 years!!! Humans will be all over the Milky Way on vast Star Systems

Buzzzz ... wrong ... not a single expert says it will only take 10,000 years to travel 2,000,000 light-years ... the Milky Way herself is 100,000 light-years across ... the speed limit is one light-year per year ...

Why would you think we can burn a rocket engine for 10,000 years? ...

 

[Quasar44]

Buzzzz ... wrong ... not a single expert says it will only take 10,000 years to travel 2,000,000 light-years ... the Milky Way herself is 100,000 light-years across ... the speed limit is one light-year per year ...

Why would you think we can burn a rocket engine for 10,000 years? ...

It won’t be Rockets , it’s completely inefficient

 

[ReinyDays]

It won’t be Rockets , it’s completely inefficient

I've been assuming perfect efficiency ... we still can't create kinetic energy out of nothing ... and whatever we use, it will have to run for 4 million years for a round trip ... accelerating halfway there, then decelerating the rest of the way ... and back ...

Will we even be here in 4 million years? ...

 

[there4eyeM]

It should be evident from the discussion here that the proportions of time and distance are absurd in human terms. We cannot apply our history of discovery and settlement here on earth to the scale of the universe. As with so much else in our lives here in the twenty-first century, our thinking has to find a new basis. What applied in the past is obsolete in the profoundest sense of the word.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

That's the paradox ... the MW should be full of life, everyplace we look ...

I think we're not looking close enough ... microbes at 50 light-years distance? ... we'll need bigger telescopes ...

NA$A

 

[ReinyDays]

NA$A

You mean Caltech? ... the American people can't spare a couple rockets to launch a modern telescope into heliocentric orbit? ...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You mean Caltech? ... the American people can't spare a couple rockets to launch a modern telescope into heliocentric orbit? ...

Only if we give them to a famous billionaire.

 

[ReinyDays]

Only if we give them to a famous billionaire.

... or California can build their own rockets ... the real money is scaling up LIGO ... an interferometer and a couple rockets would be chump-change in comparison ...

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You mean Caltech? ... the American people can't spare a couple rockets to launch a modern telescope into heliocentric orbit? ...

Nerds' Narcotic

Why is something with no practical value intellectually superior. Geology should be far more advanced than astronomy, which for thousands of years has been intellectual masturbation. Mind control wants material misery.

 

[ReinyDays]

Nerds' Narcotic

Why is something with no practical value intellectually superior. Geology should be far more advanced than astronomy, which for thousands of years has been intellectual masturbation. Mind control wants material misery.

Do you feel that way about steam power? ... how about electricity? ... nuclear energy? ...

We've mapped the surface of Mars in greater detail than we've mapped our oceans ... it's actually cheaper to put a man on the Moon than on the ocean floor ...

Why on Earth do you think astronomy is further advanced than geology? ... looks like your math is wrong ... haw haw haw haw haw haw ...